Nickel Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Definitely but i'm not sure if it's public yet. Only thing I can find about small cells are this : So they do have 8x8 mimi equipment but I'm not sure if it's TDD-LTE compatible. The highest end TD-LTE vendors appears to be Nokia Siemens Networks (NSN), Alcatel-Lucent, Samsung, Huawei, ZTE, and then Ericsson. Wouldn't this be it? http://www.ericsson.com/news/1589096 EDIT: found it: http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/ericsson-unveils-radio-dot-small-cell-enhance-indoor-coverage/2013-09-25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamMrFamous07 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Does anybody have a general idea what 100 cities or markets will get spark by end of next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc_gusto Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Does anybody have a general idea what 100 cities or markets will get spark by end of next year? Chances are wimax cities will be part of the 100 Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drlovety Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Will we need to pay a premium premium data charge? Super duper premium charge? Deluxe data charge? for Spark? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkoellerwx Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Will we need to pay a premium premium data charge? Super duper premium charge? Deluxe data charge? for Spark? No. You just need a compatible device. Sent from my HTC ONE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supert0nes Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Will we need to pay a premium premium data charge? Super duper premium charge? Deluxe data charge? for Spark? Along these lines...Sprint is much better off if you are using LTE 2500 than any other band. This is where they have the headroom to host many customers at once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraydog Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Ericsson's small cell TD-LTE solution might be one of the few areas they're behind. Good for Alcatel-Lucent, they need a lifeline and they're actually trying to reposition their business now. That's good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickel Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Ericsson's small cell TD-LTE solution might be one of the few areas they're behind. Good for Alcatel-Lucent, they need a lifeline and they're actually trying to reposition their business now. That's good. Why are they doing poorly? It's not like they haven't gotten any contracts. Or is it the phone division the one that's tanking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraydog Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Why are they doing poorly? It's not like they haven't gotten any contracts. Or is it the phone division the one that's tanking? If I recall correctly it's a lot of the older divisions that don't pertain to mobile broadband, specifically a lot of the cruft brought from Lucent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickel Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 If I recall correctly it's a lot of the older divisions that don't pertain to mobile broadband, specifically a lot of the cruft brought from Lucent. Gotcha. Hopefully they get things figured out, the network vendor market would get a little more uncompetitive if they disappeared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericdabbs Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Will we need to pay a premium premium data charge? Super duper premium charge? Deluxe data charge? for Spark? You do know that the premium data charge went away with the new My Way plans. The premium data charge ia already baked in. Even with the Everything plus plans there shouldnt be any extra charge. Sent from my Motorola Photon 4G using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsnake49 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 For a smartphone, I agree, it's ludicrous. For a dongle, however, it's doable and has already been done. NSN dongles are already running 8x8 MIMO for that test. For MIMO to be effective you need spatial diversity. For spatial diversity you need at the minimum 3 wavelengths. At the 2.6GHz frequency, wavelength is .37 feet so 3 wavelengths is 1.11 feet. I just don't see how many of those you can fit into a tablet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koiulpoi Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 For MIMO to be effective you need spatial diversity. For spatial diversity you need at the minimum 3 wavelengths. At the 2.6GHz frequency, wavelength is .37 feet so 3 wavelengths is 1.11 feet. I just don't see how many of those you can fit into a tablet. About two, give or take. http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/03/acer-all-in-one/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaQue Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 http://www.antennaplus.com/tech/understanding-diversity.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsnake49 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 About two, give or take. http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/03/acer-all-in-one/ That's why all of this dreaming of a Gbps in a mobile device is a pipe dream. You could conceivably do a CA of 3x20MHz channels for 180Mbps, but you better have that tablet plugged into an outlet since it's going to eat your battery for lunch and probably get real hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTCandroid Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Let's see how all this unfolds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImmerStark Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Spatial separation isn't the only way to achieve diversity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony.spina97 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 So... Do we think that this may be a Spark tower?.... Haha Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericdabbs Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 So... Do we think that this may be a Spark tower?.... Haha Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Just shoot down the ATT, Verizon and Tmobile towers. While you are at it...help out Sprint and shoot down the Nextel iDEN junk. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamMrFamous07 Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Don't know if this was answered but why is it going to take up to 3 years to deploy spark to the top 100 markets/cities? Feel that's pretty long lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosefTor Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Don't know if this was answered but why is it going to take up to 3 years to deploy spark to the top 100 markets/cities? Feel that's pretty long lol I thought that was weird too. I thought backhaul was the long leg of the process and that Sprint would at least match the T-Mobile rollout speed and have all areas in less than a year. Some people in the forums say that Spark is different than Sprint enabling the 2500 frequency which is why Denver, which is covered in 2500, is not a Spark launch city. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraydog Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 It will take longer in lots of cases because the Huawei equipment must be replaced. Also, the Huawei racks don't support the more advanced feature sets of Spark. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4ginnc Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 So... Do we think that this may be a Spark tower?.... Haha Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Hmmm...don't see any RRU's so if it's Sprint then it's not an NV upgraded tower. So go ahead and shoot it down and when they fix it they'll put up the new equipment. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobilesolutions Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Don't know if this was answered but why is it going to take up to 3 years to deploy spark to the top 100 markets/cities? Feel that's pretty long lol I think it is an under promise, over deliver style deployment. -Will 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted November 6, 2013 Author Share Posted November 6, 2013 I thought that was weird too. I thought backhaul was the long leg of the process and that Sprint would at least match the T-Mobile rollout speed and have all areas in less than a year. Some people in the forums say that Spark is different than Sprint enabling the 2500 frequency which is why Denver, which is covered in 2500, is not a Spark launch city. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk Also, Sprint's NV backhaul needs to be upgraded to handle three 20MHz carriers. Even most of Tmo's network cannot handle that with their current backhaul. I have been on many Tmo LTE sites running 3-4Mbps with LOS to the panels right on the day the site went live (no load). Not all upgraded backhaul is equal. Robert via Samsung Note 8.0 using Tapatalk Pro 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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