Sprint TD-LTE 2500/2600mhz Discussion

[newboyx]

If you haven't already donated for Robert's "Denver 2: TD-LTE Boogaloo" adventure, consider throwing some coin his way ... If anything, to buy his wife flowers.

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[jefbal99]

What would be the maximus speeds for these tests: 100 Mbps cause of the backhaul?

teehee

[lynyrd65]

Why doesn't WiMax Forum just stop upgrading WiMAX and just merge into LTE-TDD?

 

No one is gonna be using WiMAX soon.

 

WiMAX Forum expects to issue WiMAX/TD-LTE network specs by year-end

 

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Because WiMaximus is still prevalent in many countries and continues to be frequently used for rural wireless broadband.

 

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[S4GRU]

I'm off for a grand trip to Denver.  And away we go!

 

Special thanks to AJ, sbolen, Nickel, nulldagger, thewezgrays, newboyx, tongboy, dkoellerwx and squigey who made contributions to help cover expenses.  We have made enough to cover gas, there and back.  If you still want to help contribute for the gas driving around Denver checking out TD-LTE sites, the hotel costs or even my fried chicken addiction, you can still make a donation!  Just click on the Donate button at the top of the forums and enter Denver in the notes section.  Thanks!

 

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[lilotimz]

[koiulpoi]

Or possible future added levels.

 

What o.o

 

Donated. Forgot to say Denver but it's for Denver.

[digiblur]

Moved the 2.4ghz/5.8ghz 20mhz/40mhz discussion here:

 

http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/4363-the-20mhz40mhz-24ghz58ghz-wifi-thread/

[jroepcke51]

Moved the 2.4ghz/5.8ghz 20mhz/40mhz discussion here:

 

http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/4363-the-20mhz40mhz-24ghz58ghz-wifi-thread/

finally. that was exhausting.

[samer21]

Quick question, how do 2500mhz lte panels look like in Ericson markets?

[gr8nuguy]

Quick question, how do 2500mhz lte panels look like in Ericson markets?

we have to spot some first, then take pictures..    maybe robert can do this?

[samer21]

we have to spot some first, then take pictures..    maybe robert can do this?

Wonderful thanks. I know a tower in Orlando Florida just had those installed.

[DaQue]

Quick question, how do 2500mhz lte panels look like in Ericson markets?

There were some pictures posted of some Samsung panels here in Missouri. http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/975-network-visionlte-missouri-market-includes-st-louis/page-177&do=findComment&comment=178419

We are Ericson for  NV1.0 stuff. I don't think you can really say someplace is Ericson for 2500 deployment its not under the original game plan.

 

 

Edit:

Better pictures of 2500 LTE depolyment here:

http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/4344-how-to-spot-sprint-td-lte-antennas-rrus-samsung/&do=findComment&comment=178436

 

All of the pictures were from a Missouri site that the nv1.0 deployment would have been Ericson and he did talk to the installer and the 2500 is for Clearwire LTE.

[koiulpoi]

Finally got my MiFi 500 hotspot fired up. So far, 1900 MHz LTE performance seems about identical to the Note II's. Driving around the east side of Grand Rapids, I couldn't find any 2500 or 800, which, while expected, was still disappointing. We're a completed WiMAX market, so I half expected to pick some up!

[mhammett]

Why doesn't WiMax Forum just stop upgrading WiMAX and just merge into LTE-TDD?

Because WiMax is alive and well.

 

No one is gonna be using WiMAX soon.

Define soon.

 

 

WiMAX Forum expects to issue WiMAX/TD-LTE network specs by year-end

That only makes sense as they're very similar.

 

Why don't they switch to LTE-TDD? I thought WiMAX was compatibile-ish with WiMAX? .

They are very similar as LTE is based off of WiMax.

 

If the whole world is moving away from WiMAX

It isn't.

 

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[DaQue]

Finally got my MiFi 500 hotspot fired up. So far, 1900 MHz LTE performance seems about identical to the Note II's. Driving around the east side of Grand Rapids, I couldn't find any 2500 or 800, which, while expected, was still disappointing. We're a completed WiMAX market, so I half expected to pick some up!

Is there a good way to see what band your connected to on the MiFi 500? Someone in the Missouri thread was asking how to check.

[koiulpoi]

Is there a good way to see what band your connected to on the MiFi 500? Someone in the Missouri thread was asking how to check.

Doesn't look like there is one from the device's front screen. However, if you connect and go to

http://192.168.1.1/debug

And look in the LTE section. Band Class 25 is 1900 MHz. Anything else is time to be excited.

[koiulpoi]

(not sure if I should post this here or in the other MiFi discussion thread)

 

 

For those of you who are going to be LTE hunting with the MiFi 500, you can change quite a lot in the data profile settings, provided you have your MSL (which you can get in a variety of ways). Interesting to note is that the device, by default, scans for Band 25 (1900 MHz PCS G-Block LTE), Band 26 next (800 MHz ESMR LTE) and then finally Band 41 (2500 MHz BRS/EBS LTE). A quick reversi on that, maybe a lowering of the LTE scan timer, and I'll go drive around a little more this weekend and see what I can pick up (if anything).

 

Also interesting is that it uses an LTE_Available file, which iirc we saw on the EVO LTE, and few other devices.

[digiblur]

(not sure if I should post this here or in the other MiFi discussion thread)

 

 

For those of you who are going to be LTE hunting with the MiFi 500, you can change quite a lot in the data profile settings, provided you have your MSL (which you can get in a variety of ways). Interesting to note is that the device, by default, scans for Band 25 (1900 MHz PCS G-Block LTE), Band 26 next (800 MHz ESMR LTE) and then finally Band 41 (2500 MHz BRS/EBS LTE). A quick reversi on that, maybe a lowering of the LTE scan timer, and I'll go drive around a little more this weekend and see what I can pick up (if anything).

 

Also interesting is that it uses an LTE_Available file, which iirc we saw on the EVO LTE, and few other devices.

Jeez.. I hope the scans and BSR timers are in seconds and not minutes.

[koiulpoi]

an iPhone in Detroit

To be fair, I've seen like 3-4 people who have iPhones from Detroit. No idea if it's a club or just a "red car effect", but there's definitely more than one!

 

Jeez.. I hope the scans and BSR timers are in seconds and not minutes.

I can only assume so. 300 seconds would be 5 minutes, which is what we've seen on other devices, no?

 

I have no idea what "BSR" is, anyways. What is it?

 

Also: LTE 1900 performance on the MiFi 500 is actually slightly better than the Note II; it was able to pick up a fringe signal at my house (and lose it almost immediately, then pick it back up...) while the Note stays on 3G constantly.

[S4GRU]

We got severely delayed by a car accident/construction mess in Colorado Springs. We are checked into the hotel and my wife and I are even have a drink together for the first time in years.

 

Down in the basement lounge here I'm still getting a respectable TD-LTE 2600 signal and good speeds.

 

 

 

More testing later...in the morning.

 

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[maximus1987/lou99]

We got severely delayed by a car accident/construction mess in Colorado Springs. We are checked into the hotel and my wife and I are even have a drink together for the first time in years.

 

Down in the basement lounge here I'm still getting a respectable TD-LTE 2600 signal and good speeds.

 

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More testing later...in the morning.

 

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I think we'd all love to know you convinced your wife to do this. Maybe an entire thread?

[digiblur]

To be fair, I've seen like 3-4 people who have iPhones from Detroit. No idea if it's a club or just a "red car effect", but there's definitely more than one!

 

I can only assume so. 300 seconds would be 5 minutes, which is what we've seen on other devices, no?

 

I have no idea what "BSR" is, anyways. What is it?

 

Also: LTE 1900 performance on the MiFi 500 is actually slightly better than the Note II; it was able to pick up a fringe signal at my house (and lose it almost immediately, then pick it back up...) while the Note stays on 3G constantly.

Better Service Reselection. Basically a trigger to look for a better or higher priority network.

[DaQue]

I think we'd all love to know you convinced your wife to do this. Maybe an entire thread?

Maybe it was just "honey wanna sneak off to a hotel away from the kids for a day?'

[Jswets]

We got severely delayed by a car accident/construction mess in Colorado Springs. We are checked into the hotel and my wife and I are even have a drink together for the first time in years.

 

Down in the basement lounge here I'm still getting a respectable TD-LTE 2600 signal and good speeds.

 

uploadfromtaptalk1375503101128.jpg

 

uploadfromtaptalk1375503129219.jpg

 

More testing later...in the morning.

 

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Wow...pretty decent signal for a "basement". Can't wait to see what results you get today with the USB to Laptop connection.

[S4GRU]

Maybe it was just "honey wanna sneak off to a hotel away from the kids for a day?'

Oh, wait? What? We were supposed to leave the kids? Damn!

 

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