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twospirits Member Level: LTE Advanced

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Sprint, Google, NYPL Offering Free High-Speed Internet To 10,000 Low-Income Households

 

http://gothamist.com/2014/12/02/google_nypl_offering_free_wifi_to_1.php

You know, speaking of that, I find it interesting that the article states

"The ultimate goal is to get some 10,000 families online, according to the city. A noble effort, sure, but official estimates say that over 30 percent of Gotham residents are without broadband access. With a population over 8 million strong, that still leaves almost 3 million people without internet"

 

That is alot of people. I wonder how much of a load that would be on any of the carriers, especially Sprint since the hotspots are theirs.

 

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Its finally happened!!!! Sprint overtook Tmobile on Netindex in Manhattan!!     Next...Verizon!!

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I was on lunch today at tmobile checking out their plan prices. One of the reps came up and asked what service you on? I said Sprint and she immediately went on this rant on how sprint is slow, ouch

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First off. You need to read up a bit more before you start complaining about speeds.Sprints 5x5 has a maximum theoretical output of 37.5mbps DL and ~ 14 mbps UL. The theoretical maximum is the absolut

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First blips of band 26 in my hometown of Tottenville, Staten Island! Finally! It's still pretty weak as it doesn't exactly reach out a mile yet, and allows band 25 to penetrate my house. Then again, I live LITERALLY in throwing distance of the tower. Hoping they optimize the tower and turn band 26's range up, love to see this place coated in LTE.

 

In other news, had some problems w/ band 41 in midtown the other day at my college. The problem seemed to resolve itself though, despite the fact I opened a ticket for it and haven't heard anything about repairs. Maybe this was a Clear site acting up?

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How is it possible that on Jamaica Avenue near Parsons Blvd there is LTE, but the minute you step into the Sprint store in that location, LTE dies a quick death. lol 

 

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Sprint store at Flatiron Building is the same - this is because the 23rd street station right underneath the store has LTE provided by Transitwireless, so the phone loses all services trying to connect to that; it's really sad lol

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http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/6673-nationwide-clear-outage-band-41-lte/

Here is a link to the thread I created on the Clear sites being down.

My tower is back online. I talk some rep yesterday morning and he knew about the outage and told me that was a bad coding. The others reps just pin point my location, this guy even knew the tower, gave me the address and when the was maintenance done,he reported to the engineer department and told me again to give them 72 hours should be fixed.

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How is it possible that on Jamaica Avenue near Parsons Blvd there is LTE, but the minute you step into the Sprint store in that location, LTE dies a quick death. lol

 

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Still? I bought my phone there a year ago, no LTE inside, but it appeared once I got towards Old Navy. I remember my entire trip home being LTE-less though.

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Hit three new 8t8r sites , from 65th street 5th ave all the way down to 50th and 6th.  Awesome to pick up some B41 while waiting on the longest street meat line of all time Halal Guys. Best Halal in NYC for sure.

Were any of these in the vicinity of the clear sites that were acting up?

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so I got off the train today at Wall Street and I'm in front of my building and look at what I picked up an 8T8R tower went live.

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Speed was just under 30 Mbps down

 

it seems to be coming from a brand new site because it didn't show up in any of my site notes.

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I've tested most of the clear sites that went down today and they are all back up and some more 8t8r. Performance today has been extremely impressive.

What are the speeds like coming from an 8T8R site?

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Average between 25-40mbs tops out around 75mbs...

Thanks. I'd also like to know how far those speeds reach, if you'd like to, or someone else would like to reciprocate on that.

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Thanks. I'd also like to know how far those speeds reach, if you'd like to, or someone else would like to reciprocate on that.

In NYC, its almost everywhere, the B41 network is very dense. I tend to hold B41 90% of the time moving all over NYC.

 

Too many variables to say distance from one particular tower, but more or less about 70% of a B25 site covers.

 

EDIT: OH, speeds!? That's EZ, 80mbs is just about the highest possible with a non CA device. Currently only the Note Edge supports Sprint CA cable of peak's around 150mbs. After Sprint turns on the 3rd carrier (sometime next year) expect peak speeds of just above 200mbs.

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In NYC, its almost everywhere, the B41 network is very dense. I tend to hold B41 90% of the time moving all over NYC.

 

Too many variables to say distance from one particular tower, but more or less about 70% of a B25 site covers.

 

EDIT: OH, speeds!? That's EZ, 80mbs is just about the highest possible with a non CA device. Currently only the Note Edge supports Sprint CA cable of peak's around 150mbs. After Sprint turns on the 3rd carrier (sometime next year) expect peak speeds of just above 200mbs.

 

80Mbps for now. Increasing backhaul as well as the activation of 4x2 MIMO on 8T8R sites should raise that peak speed up by the end of the year. The 2nd carrier will do more than help those with CA devices.

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80Mbps for now. Increasing backhaul as well as the activation of 4x2 MIMO on 8T8R sites should raise that peak speed up by the end of the year. The 2nd carrier will do more than help those with CA devices.

I saw 50Mbps down at an 8T8R site 2 months ago, but now it sits regularly at 20Mbps, still band 41. FIT testing perhaps?

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      Totally agree.  In my county and surrounding counties, TM did not place n-41 on every site.  When I look at the sites in question, I probably would have not placed it there either.  I can find just a few with n-71 only and in most of those cases if you live there and know the probable usage of the residents, you would not do a full upgrade on those sites.  One site in particular is set up to force feed n-71 through a long tunnel on the Turnpike.  No stopping allowed in the tunnel. No stores, movie theaters, bathrooms, so n41 would be a waste.    n25 is not really needed either, so it is not there.  The tunnel is going through & under a mountain with more black bears than people.  TM was smart.  Get good coverage in the tunnel but do not waste many many thousands of dollars with extra unused spectrum. I also see sites with only n71 & n25.  Again this makes sense to me.  Depending on what county we are talking about, they moved much of their b25 from LTE to nr.  Some counties have more n25 than a neighboring county, but luckily, it is plenty everywhere.   When you are in a very rural area, n41 can run up the bills and then be barely used.  I am NOT finding sites that should have had n41 but TM failed to provide it.  They may have to come back later in a few years and upgrade the site to n41.  However, we just may eventually see the last little piece on Band 25 leave LTE and move to n25. I am not sure if the satellite to phone service is using band 25 G block as LTE or nr. We also can possibly have at least some AWS move from LTE to nr at some point.  Yes, everybody wants n41. it is not justified in some cases.  When I travel, I desire some decent service along the entire route but it does not have to be 1 or 2 gig download.   If I can get 50/5 on a speedtest with data that will flow and not stutter, I am very happy. Yes, they will swap out the USC gear.  TM needs to match their existing network. The USCC equipment did the job for years, but it is time to retire it.

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