afazel Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 No band 26 in the normal places I had it with the .15 radio. I did get band 41 while out and then a -122 signal at home that still pulled ~5/.5Mbps. Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpenceSouth Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I don't like the new radio. No LTE at my desk at work now and I lost it completely when I got near a B41 site and it stayed gone until I toggled airplane mode in the parking lot at work. Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk Same i'm not a big fan of it so far Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk Fortunately it is an easy fix to go back to the .15 radio if you preferred that. I'm going to test drive .13 for a week but I may go back as well. Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uecker87 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I want to admit this isn't scientific or anything, but yesterday I took readings at different places on my desk and left post-it notes so I would be able to put the phone in the exact same spot today. Same tower from the same sector. (Yes, that big of a wireless nerd now... thanks to this site)Here are my findings:.15 Radio Spot #1 .23 Radio Spot #1 .13 Radio Spot #1 B25 - 108-109 B25 - 113-115 B25 - 110-114 B26 - 101-103 B26 - N/A B26 - 105-107.15 Radio Spot #2 .23 Radio Spot #2 .13 Radio Spot #2 B25 - 107-108 B25 - 113-114 B25 - 112-113 B26 - 100-103 B26 - N/A B26 - 105-106.15 Radio Spot #3 .23 Radio Spot #3 .13 Radio Spot #3 B25 - 103-104 B25 - 110-111 B25 - 109-112 B26 - 99-100 B26 - N/A B26 - 104-105 Sorry if the formatting goes crazy... Tried putting in an HTML table, but I don't have that option on here? Worked fine in my Premier thread... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travismheim Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I flashed the update last night. Everything seems to work but band 25 LTE reception does seem worse. I used to pick it up at home and haven't seen it yet. Also dropping to 3G at work. I'm not sure how I feel about it yet, I bought the nexus for its LTE reception but I haven't had any data issues yet on the new baseband. As long as data continues to work when I need it I might not go back to .15. Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digiblur Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I always found that the older radio, the one that shipped with the initial N5 (think that was 17?) held on to LTE way too long before dropping to 1x/EV. I would end up in places with hanging on to LTE that wasn't usable and texting would end up not working plus inbound calls would fail. And this wasn't a CSFB issue. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 The debug/engineering one doesn't work, I haven't pulled the logcat yet to see what it is doing. The Nexus field app was updated today and that one opens the LTE engineering screen just fine though. My Quickshortcut stopped working so I figure I just need to do a root script on my home screen to fix it. Liking this radio a bit better. The transition to and from B4 from 17 wasn't bad before but I see they've tweaked it a bit better. I'm afraid to upgrade since I'm on AT&T. I like being able to access Engineering screens on AT&T. Only device I know that does. Robert via Samsung Note 8.0 using Tapatalk Pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWMaloney Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 RSRP (dBm) alone is a pretty useless measure of a modem firmware; there are plenty of other important numbers on the engineering screen too. What really matters is the performance on that firmware. I said this before the 4.4.3 update was released -- my own testing shows that, while the .17 radio shows higher dBm readings on LTE, the .23 radio connects to LTE in less places because of poor fringe performance. That said, I upgraded last night directly from the .23 radio, and I can tell you that the new 2.0.50.1.13 radio is absolutely giving me much better band 26 performance. I previously found it impossible to reliably hand off from site to site while connected to band 26 (the device would drop to eHRPD instead and park there for a long time); now I'm seeing my device idle on band 25 and correctly move to band 26 either when necessary -- either when the cell site tells it to (for capacity) or when approaching the edge of the band 25 cell (for coverage). And I'm actually seeing hand-offs across band 26 sites now. I'm also seeing the device grab onto band 26 in more places than before (for instance, in elevators and parking garages) where it would previously give up and fall back to eHRPD. And on a fringe signal, I'm seeing better speed tests. At home, where I have a good signal on either band, I'm seeing better behavior -- the device will camp out on band 25 while I'm on Wi-Fi, and it will immediately move to band 26 when I disable Wi-Fi. I tested that several times, and it moved after every toggle with no issues. And even at my desk at work, where I get a poor signal, I've been on band 26 all morning and haven't dropped to eHRPD once. Previously the device would move between band 25, band 26, and eHRPD all day in this spot. I'm starting to think some of you just have defective devices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uecker87 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Weird... Here is the error I get uploadfromtaptalk1401764140999.jpg Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk I get the same error... Never really used that app though since I know the dialer codes. Weird. Updating the Nexus Field Test app fixes the error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digiblur Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I'm afraid to upgrade since I'm on AT&T. I like being able to access Engineering screens on AT&T. Only device I know that does. Robert via Samsung Note 8.0 using Tapatalk Pro No issues with the upgrade here. Works well. Just use this for the shortcut for now. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cellmapper.nexus5fieldtestmode 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaQue Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Anyone having good luck with 0.15 radio on 4.4.3? May flash it soon here. Anyone strongly prefer a different one? Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uecker87 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I'm starting to think some of you just have defective devices. I could never get B26 on the .23 radio. The .15 radio gave me all of the benefits of B26. The switching between bands was perfect. Switching from B26 site to B26 site was flawless. The ONLY couple things I didn't like about the .15 modem was that it would tend to stay on B25 a little bit too long, and I couldn't get B41. Going to give this modem a fair chance though. I will admit that I am pulling in pretty good speeds and useability on fringe signals. I just wish that the B25 performance was like the .23 radio (which it appears so), while the B26 performance was like the .15 radio. But you can't always get what you want! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpenceSouth Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Hope this doesn't get buried in all of the update discussions, but for those of you that have used Dalvik optimizations and ART... Which do you find provides better battery life? Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 No issues with the upgrade here. Works well. Just use this for the shortcut for now. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cellmapper.nexus5fieldtestmode That's good. I use that app already to access screens. I thought I read that that app doesn't work any longer on AT&T after the update. Thanks for the clarification. Robert via Samsung Note 8.0 using Tapatalk Pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z250kid Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 has anyone received it ota? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordanlong20 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 has anyone received it ota? At least one screen shot exists, but I haven't seen a link yet. Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWMaloney Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Hope this doesn't get buried in all of the update discussions, but for those of you that have used Dalvik optimizations and ART... Which do you find provides better battery life? Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk ART, hands down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCFKnight Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 has anyone received it ota? Haven't seen it posted anywhere yet except for a screen shot or two from twitter, but it won't be long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conquereddroiduser Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I got band 41 on the way to work, as well as band 26 in a couple of spots that had fringe band 25 before. Unfortunately I did have a couple of hand off issues where my n5 dropped all signal and came back on 3g. I'm doing a profile and prl update and will see how it works on the way home. Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpenceSouth Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Looks like MX Player is another 4.4.3 casualty.Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedub Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I am becoming very disappointed with this 'update', after experiencing *working* spark on the m8, I am starting to suspect that the nexus 5 is plagued with some kind of hardware issue on b41. I haven't seen any b41 yet where I can get consistently with the m8. The m8 'just worked', albeit with sometimes odd hand-off behavior. I am also finding myself missing the spinning walmart sign, it made it extremely trivial to see when data was actually transferring. ugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiWavelength Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 That's good. I use that app already to access screens. I thought I read that that app doesn't work any longer on AT&T after the update. Thanks for the clarification. The app change log indicates that you now must be rooted. So, have you gotten back to your root(s)? AJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanA Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I am becoming very disappointed with this 'update', after experiencing *working* spark on the m8, I am starting to suspect that the nexus 5 is plagued with some kind of hardware issue on b41. I haven't seen any b41 yet where I can get consistently with the m8. The m8 'just worked', albeit with sometimes odd hand-off behavior. I am also finding myself missing the spinning walmart sign, it made it extremely trivial to see when data was actually transferring. ugh. I have had very reliable band 41 connection with my nexus 5 using .15, so it's not a hardware problem. Have you tested the nexus 5 and m8 at the same time in the same location? Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaQue Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 If this was a Spark upgrade you would think it would work well on B41 with the radio it shipped with. I lasted half a day before going back to 0.15. Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lb124 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I agree with the 3G/1xRTT performance being noticeably better. Here at work in southwest Denver, I'm buried in legacy land and have been spending most days with my N5 perpetually hunting for a signal. With the .13 radio, I consistently at least have a data connection, albeit a slow one. Too soon to see much difference at home in Colorado Springs where B25 and B26 are pretty much everywhere. Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejeep Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 The debug/engineering one doesn't work, I haven't pulled the logcat yet to see what it is doing. The Nexus field app was updated today and that one opens the LTE engineering screen just fine though. My Quickshortcut stopped working so I figure I just need to do a root script on my home screen to fix it. Is SignalCheck granted root access on your device? As others have stated, looks like the FTM update references a change in 4.4.3 that requires root to trigger the shortcut now. I hope to find time to update by the end of this week so I will mess around with it and see what I can do. Most others say its still working in the app but I'm guessing it's a root permissions issue. -Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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