dkyeager Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 https://www.fiercewireless.com/wireless/ny-public-service-commission-approves-t-mobile-sprint-merger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bretton88 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 https://www.fiercewireless.com/wireless/ny-public-service-commission-approves-t-mobile-sprint-merger So if CPUC denies it, but the feds approve it, does it matter that California denied it?Sent from my SM-N960U1 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkyeager Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 52 minutes ago, bretton88 said: So if CPUC denies it, but the feds approve it, does it matter that California denied it? Sent from my SM-N960U1 using Tapatalk New York would say no it does not matter. I assume Sprint could close down or sell its California business if needed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chamb Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 18 hours ago, dkyeager said: New York would say no it does not matter. I assume Sprint could close down or sell its California business if needed. Sell all the Sprint cell sites and stores to some type of holding company. Then start quietly moving all customers and employees over to T-Mobile. Surely there would be away to get around some politicians. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kct1975 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 New York would say no it does not matter. I assume Sprint could close down or sell its California business if needed.I could see, if necessary, Sprint and T-Mobile selling all California assets and the possibilities of completely pulling out of California if necessary. Sent from my SM-N920P using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chamb Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 9 hours ago, kct1975 said: I could see, if necessary, Sprint and T-Mobile selling all California assets and the possibilities of completely pulling out of California if necessary. Sent from my SM-N920P using Tapatalk There are ways to get around the political bull. T-mobile-Sprint would not ever totally pull out. Just go with t-mobile, quietly move all Sprint subscribers to T-mobile, close sprint stores or re-name them. You can bet it would get done somehow. Sprint would just disappear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercurial1 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 I could see, if necessary, Sprint and T-Mobile selling all California assets and the possibilities of completely pulling out of California if necessary. Sent from my SM-N920P using TapatalkCalifornia if it was its own country is something like the 6th largest economy in the world. The companies won't pull out. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 There will have to be sufficient grounds and California law to be able to deny it and let it stand (or any state for that matter). California has courts too. And something like this would be unprecedented and could end up in the Supreme Court pushing the bounds of the 10th Amendment. Robert 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belusnecropolis Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 That escalated fast! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dro1984 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Looks like the powers that be are trying a little friendly persuasion... New T Mobile to build customer care facility in Central California 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kct1975 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Looks like the powers that be are trying a little friendly persuasion...New T Mobile to build customer care facility in Central CaliforniaSeems like a good strategy! [emoji106]Sent from my SM-N920P using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dro1984 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Hope it works... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danlodish345 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Hope it works...I personally want Sprint to stick around for a long time.Sent from my LM-V405 using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshnys8913 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 hour ago, danlodish345 said: I personally want Sprint to stick around for a long time. Sent from my LM-V405 using Tapatalk I think Sprint can expand on its own, but it will just take longer than people want them too. Sprint (on their own) has made great strides just in the past two years in my opinion). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danlodish345 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 I think Sprint can expand on its own, but it will just take longer than people want them too. Sprint (on their own) has made great strides just in the past two years in my opinion). Okay I don't disagree with you there. They have definitely made improvements. I just want to see overall coverage expansion and some more densification. Obviously that would take lots of time and lots of money. And we all know their financial situation. So I'm waiting to see with interest what happens here.Sent from my LM-V405 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSpark Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 House Energy & Commerce Committee Hearing on Wednesday: https://energycommerce.house.gov/committee-activity/hearings/hearing-on-protecting-consumers-and-competition-an-examination-of-the-t Legere’s Written Testimony: https://energycommerce.house.gov/sites/democrats.energycommerce.house.gov/files/documents/LegereJ_Testimony2.pdf Marcelo’s Written Testimony: https://energycommerce.house.gov/sites/democrats.energycommerce.house.gov/files/documents/ClaureM_Testimony.pdf ........ House Judiciary Committee Hearing on Thursday: https://judiciary.house.gov/legislation/hearings/state-competition-wireless-market-examining-impact-proposed-merger-t-mobile-and 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kct1975 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 This isn't good news [emoji438] for the merger... Democrat 2020 hopefuls press Trump to sink T-Mobile, Sprint $26.5 billion merger https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/democrat-2020-hopefuls-press-trump-administration-to-sink-26-5-billion-t-mobile-sprint-merger Sent from my SM-N920P using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueAngel Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 11 hours ago, kct1975 said: This isn't good news for the merger... Democrat 2020 hopefuls press Trump to sink T-Mobile, Sprint $26.5 billion merger https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/democrat-2020-hopefuls-press-trump-administration-to-sink-26-5-billion-t-mobile-sprint-merger Sent from my SM-N920P using Tapatalk It will be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_dog007 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 (edited) 21 hours ago, danlodish345 said: Okay I don't disagree with you there. They have definitely made improvements. I just want to see overall coverage expansion and some more densification. Obviously that would take lots of time and lots of money. And we all know their financial situation. So I'm waiting to see with interest what happens here. Sent from my LM-V405 using Tapatalk Sprint is spending lots of money. TMobile has been doing just fine with $4~5 billion on CapEx for several years. Sprint is back up at this level. If they maintain it, it just depends where they'd want to put that money. They have excellent extended roaming agreements, and have one with TMobile for three more years. Out of site upgrades, site density, market growth expansion and new native coverage, I can see new native coverage being at the bottom of the list due to these agreements. Especially if Sprint wants to be a city leader in 5G NR. Edited February 13, 2019 by red_dog007 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danlodish345 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Sprint is spending lots of money. TMobile has been doing just fine with $4~5 billion on CapEx for several years. Sprint is back up at this level. If they maintain it, it just depends where they'd want to put that money. They have excellent extended roaming agreements, and have one with TMobile for three more years. Out of site upgrades, site density, market growth expansion and new native coverage, I can see new native coverage being at the bottom of the list due to these agreements. Especially if Sprint wants to be a city leader in 5G NR.Hmm thats a solid argument which I wont disagree with but...in my area sprints density is terrible especially off of the main highway.. A new cell site or two is needed for sprint to fill in two roaming holes that are huge.....and the same could be said for tmobile with density...Sent from my LM-V405 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radem Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, red_dog007 said: Sprint is spending lots of money. TMobile has been doing just fine with $4~5 billion on CapEx for several years. Sprint is back up at this level. If they maintain it, it just depends where they'd want to put that money. They have excellent extended roaming agreements, and have one with TMobile for three more years. Out of site upgrades, site density, market growth expansion and new native coverage, I can see new native coverage being at the bottom of the list due to these agreements. Especially if Sprint wants to be a city leader in 5G NR. If T-Mobile would keep the Sprint roaming agreements after they merge with Sprint, the combined company would have incredible coverage. The Sprint roaming agreements are extremely useful (and expensive) in keeping Sprint mobile devices usable in coverage holes. The T-Mobile network is a little better than Sprint's in some areas but in other areas is far worse and just goes to no service since T-Mobile currently has many areas with no roaming agreements. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danlodish345 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 If T-Mobile would keep the Sprint roaming agreements after they merge with Sprint, the combined company would have incredible coverage. The Sprint roaming agreements are extremely useful (and expensive) in keeping Sprint mobile devices usable in coverage holes. The T-Mobile network is a little better than Sprint's in some areas but in other areas is far worse and just goes to no service since T-Mobile currently has many areas with no roaming agreements.Actually if TMobile can continue to expand coverage that would be absolutely fantastic. And not just rely on roaming agreements. As you just said roaming Agreements are pretty expensive. So it would really be and the new carriers interest in building out new coverage. Obviously that's a very expensive and complicated process logistically. So I would really like to see what would happen.Sent from my SM-T837T using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueAngel Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 6 hours ago, radem said: If T-Mobile would keep the Sprint roaming agreements after they merge with Sprint, the combined company would have incredible coverage. The Sprint roaming agreements are extremely useful (and expensive) in keeping Sprint mobile devices usable in coverage holes. The T-Mobile network is a little better than Sprint's in some areas but in other areas is far worse and just goes to no service since T-Mobile currently has many areas with no roaming agreements. Forgot all about T-Mobile roaming, I haven't seen it in a long time all I get is 3G when I lose LTE now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
though Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 2 hours ago, BlueAngel said: Forgot all about T-Mobile roaming, I haven't seen it in a long time all I get is 3G when I lose LTE now. What happens when you set your phone to LTE-only in a 3G area? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danlodish345 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 What happens when you set your phone to LTE-only in a 3G area?I think the person loses service.Sent from my SM-T837T using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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