Everything 800mhz (1xA, LTE, coverage, timeline, etc)

[maximus1987/lou99]

Maybe in this case, they'd refarm the ESMR so they had a pair of 3x3 LTE carriers, instead of 5x5 LTE and a 1xA (1.25x1.25). How big do the guard bands need to be?

 

 

There's more overhead when you have a smaller-bandwidth LTE channel.

 

http://www.qualcomm.com/media/documents/files/wireless-networks-lte-boosts-data-capacity-with-new-wider-bandwidth-spectrum.pdf

 

pg. 9/21

 

I'm not sure of the math but TWO 3x3 may provide less capacity that ONE 5x5.

[maximus1987/lou99]

I don't think they would, that's exactly my point. Even in 10 years when all the new phones are doing VoLTE, dropping the 1xA carrier on ESMR won't give them enough additional spectrum to enlarge their 5x5 LTE carrier on ESMR. My guess is that this would be the very last CDMA carrier that Sprint will get rid of.

 

Or Sprint can keep that 800 1xA channel forever-ish for M2M and/or really cheap cell phones.

Of course it depends on the cost to Sprint to purchase CDMA base stations (when Verizon stops providing Sprint the economy of its scale) vs the benefit of being able to provide cheap connectivity.

 

http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/sprint-strikes-m2m-deal-u-blox-targets-atts-2g-shutdown/2013-04-22

http://www.u-blox.com/en/wireless-modules/cdma/fw75.html

 

But the above FW75-C200 module doesn't support CDMA band 10 which is Sprint's ESMR.

[SpenceSouth]

Since LTE doesn't carry as well as 1x I'm not sure I would want Sprint to fully commit to VOLTE.  I'd be perfectly happy keeping voice on 1xA for the foreseeable future. 

[Rukin1]

Shutting down 3G? 2G okay, but 3G? No. maybe 15 years lol

[WiWavelength]

Shutting down 3G? 2G okay, but 3G? No. maybe 15 years lol

Sprint no longer has any "2G," has not for many years.

 

AJ

[Rukin1]

Sprint no longer has any "2G," has not for many years.

 

AJ

I was talking about Verizon lol

[WiWavelength]

I was talking about Verizon lol

VZW is no different. No "2G." It was all upgraded to at least CDMA1X years ago.

 

AJ

[lynyrd65]

In my opinion, 1xRTT is 2G in the same way LTE is 4G.

 

 

Sent from my SCH-R970 using Tapatalk 2

 

[Moropo]

In my opinion, 1xRTT is 2G in the same way LTE is 4G.

 

 

Sent from my SCH-R970 using Tapatalk 2

 

^agree

 

Sent from my SPH-L900 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

 

 

[dcmike]

Sprint no longer has any "2G," has not for many years.

 

AJ

 

 

VZW is no different. No "2G." It was all upgraded to at least CDMA1X years ago.

 

AJ

I realize this is a pet peeve of yours and of course you're correct, but because of carrier branding and years of (ab)use of the terminology, most users generally accept 1x as "2G".

 

If you'd like to be technically correct on all fronts, then the entire name of this website is wrong and should be changed to s3gru.com. Neither LTE nor Wimax as deployed by Sprint meet the throughput or IP telephony standards of 4G set forth by the ITU.

 

http://wirelessman.org/liaison/docs/L80216-08_008.pdf

[tmiw]

I realize this is a pet peeve of yours and of course you're correct, but because of carrier branding and years of (ab)use of the terminology, most users generally accept 1x as "2G".

 

If you'd like to be technically correct on all fronts, then the entire name of this website is wrong and should be changed to s3gru.com. Neither LTE nor Wimax as deployed by Sprint meet the throughput or IP telephony standards of 4G set forth by the ITU.

 

http://wirelessman.org/liaison/docs/L80216-08_008.pdf

 

LTE Advanced, however, is 4G and Sprint only needs to software update their base stations to enable that. 

[Rawvega]

I realize this is a pet peeve of yours and of course you're correct, but because of carrier branding and years of (ab)use of the terminology, most users generally accept 1x as "2G".

 

If you'd like to be technically correct on all fronts, then the entire name of this website is wrong and should be changed to s3gru.com. Neither LTE nor Wimax as deployed by Sprint meet the throughput or IP telephony standards of 4G set forth by the ITU.

 

http://wirelessman.org/liaison/docs/L80216-08_008.pdf

 

Well if we're being technical, the ITU revised their standards to allow WiMAX and LTE to be designated as "4G".

 

http://www.itu.int/net/pressoffice/press_releases/2010/48.aspx#.UcDCar3HVlM

 

 

As the most advanced technologies currently defined for global wireless mobile broadband communications, IMT-Advanced is considered as “4G”, although it is recognized that this term, while undefined, may also be applied to the forerunners of these technologies, LTE and WiMax, and to other evolved 3G technologies providing a substantial level of improvement in performance and capabilities with respect to the initial third generation systems now deployed.

 

[dontsh00tmesanta]

Does 800mhz increase range

[Ascertion]

Does 800mhz increase range

Yes, the lower the frequency, the further the signal travels and penetrates objects.

[dontsh00tmesanta]

Has this been noticed in real world use?

[dontsh00tmesanta]

Cuz there's two towers each about 10mi apart from my parents

 

Should 800 be active there I wonder which would take over

[tongboy]

Cuz there's two towers each about 10mi apart from my parents

 

 

Should 800 be active there I wonder which would take over

I have noticed a pretty big difference within a structure. The band also seems quieter since there are not a lot of phones on it yet. At that distance though their are a lot of other issues that come into play. The antenna down tilt at the tower would play a much bigger role.

 

Sent from my EVO LTE

 

 

[Rukin1]

Yes, the lower the frequency, the further the signal travels and penetrates objects.

that's what she said

[cardboardbox]

Anyone know when Sprint will sell a phone capable of LTE 800?

[dmchssc]

Anyone know when Sprint will sell a phone capable of LTE 800?

 

 

Later this year, likely Q4.

[cardboardbox]

Later this year, likely Q4.

ugh, was thinking we'd see something soon.

 

thanks

[IamMrFamous07]

Anyone know when Sprint will sell a phone capable of LTE 800?

http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/21/sprint-announces-three-tri-band-lte-mobile-broadband-devices-to/

 

This fall. LG (Optimus G pro) and Samsung (note 3) will probably be the first Triband LTE phones.

[Paynefanbro]

Or the HTC Phablet.

[ericdabbs]

http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/21/sprint-announces-three-tri-band-lte-mobile-broadband-devices-to/

 

This fall. LG (Optimus G pro) and Samsung (note 3) will probably be the first Triband LTE phones.

 

I don't know if the current LG Optimus G Pro is coming to Sprint this year.  Maybe the LG Optimus G Pro 2 but I doubt that will be released this year.  LG might just have a Spring time release and have a reverse device release schedule than Samsung with a phablet in Spring and flagship phone in Fall vs Samsung who has a flagship phone in Spring and phablet in Fall.

[Ascertion]

Will Sprint release a coverage map of Clearwire 2500 LTE and LTE 800 when they release these triband devices? Really want to see if my local clearwire site has been upgraded to LTE.