Jump to content
lilotimz

T-Mobile LTE & Network Discussion V2

Recommended Posts

21 minutes ago, jthawks said:

Well shoot,  my mom was right.  Haha. So I guess she should stick it out for now and pay the price.  Thank you for the great info I will pass that on. Wish there was a way to find out legit upgrades coming to that site.  I should try and get a ticket started? 

Kenmore permits can be found here:

https://permitsearch.mybuildingpermit.com/

That's probably a good place to start.  

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I've been testing the T-Mobile network here in Grand Forks for the past two days on the Test Drive program. I am less than impressed. Of the 27 tests I've done, only 4 of them have had download speeds in the double digits. No tests have resulted in upload speeds in the double digits. Summarized data:

Average DL: 6.76Mbps

Average UL: 2.79Mbps

37% of download tests were slower than 5Mbps.

48% of download tests were between 5 and 10Mbps.

15% of download tests were faster than 10Mbps.

63% of upload tests were slower than 3Mbps.

22% of upload tests were between 3 and 5Mbps.

15% of upload tests were faster than 5Mbps. 

I will say I have yet to have a test fail. 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 9/11/2019 at 9:25 PM, Brad The Beast said:

I've been testing the T-Mobile network here in Grand Forks for the past two days on the Test Drive program. I am less than impressed. Of the 27 tests I've done, only 4 of them have had download speeds in the double digits. No tests have resulted in upload speeds in the double digits. Summarized data:

Average DL: 6.76Mbps

Average UL: 2.79Mbps

37% of download tests were slower than 5Mbps.

48% of download tests were between 5 and 10Mbps.

15% of download tests were faster than 10Mbps.

63% of upload tests were slower than 3Mbps.

22% of upload tests were between 3 and 5Mbps.

15% of upload tests were faster than 5Mbps. 

I will say I have yet to have a test fail. 

Very usable. How are pings?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, though said:

Very usable. How are pings?

Between 50ms and 250ms. I'd say the average is around 100ms. Speeds aren't impressive due to lack of spectrum assets in my area. The majority of the towers here are bands 2 and 12, both of which are 5x5. There is one that's bands 2 and 4 (band 4 is also 5x5). There is another that is bands 2, 12, and 71 (pretty sure 71 is 10x10).

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
46 minutes ago, Brad The Beast said:

Between 50ms and 250ms. I'd say the average is around 100ms. Speeds aren't impressive due to lack of spectrum assets in my area. The majority of the towers here are bands 2 and 12, both of which are 5x5. There is one that's bands 2 and 4 (band 4 is also 5x5). There is another that is bands 2, 12, and 71 (pretty sure 71 is 10x10).

I don't think ND is known for the best network speeds on any network. If you are getting a consistent 6+/2+ I would consider that good for the time being...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
19 minutes ago, though said:

I don't think ND is known for the best network speeds on any network. If you are getting a consistent 6+/2+ I would consider that good for the time being...

Well when I'm getting up to 300Mbps down on VZW and up to 50Mbps down on Sprint I wouldn't consider 6 down 2 up good. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Well when I'm getting up to 300Mbps down on VZW and up to 50Mbps down on Sprint I wouldn't consider 6 down 2 up good. 
Well 5g for all carriers including TMobile is still in it's infancy and coverage is still insanely limited.

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, danlodish345 said:

Well 5g for all carriers including TMobile is still in it's infancy and coverage is still insanely limited.

These are LTE speeds. I never mentioned 5G.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
These are LTE speeds. I never mentioned 5G.
Hm ok it's seems like TMobile is capacity limited ...in many areas .

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, danlodish345 said:

Hm ok it's seems like TMobile is capacity limited ...in many areas .

Yep. We won't be seeing 5G from anyone for at least 10 years. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Yep. We won't be seeing 5G from anyone for at least 10 years. 
Exactly. I don't even pay attention to it anymore. Whenever someone mentions fifth generation network technology I just sit back and chuckle. Besides they're a joke if they think they're going to run 5G on 5 MHz of band 71. in my area T-Mobile runs it on 5 MHz of band 71 even though they have 10 megahertz total. It's a total joke that's why they stop paying attention and long ago after they rolled it out here.

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So -115 strength in band 71 inside a one story building, not much for obstructions and the site was a block and a half getting 1.6 mbps down and no upload.  What's the story behind this? So far I haven't been impressed with band 71 especially comparing to band 26 on sprint

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 9/20/2019 at 1:10 PM, jthawks said:

So -115 strength in band 71 inside a one story building, not much for obstructions and the site was a block and a half getting 1.6 mbps down and no upload.  What's the story behind this? So far I haven't been impressed with band 71 especially comparing to band 26 on sprint

How new is it?  It initially took months for Sprint to umbrella out B26 coverage.  Do the antennas point in your direction? (although at 1.5 blocks you should get strong signal no matter what unless you are too close).

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Fairly new.  Maybe under two months.  I know there is a 10 story or under office building in its path.  But the hotel t mobile is on I believe is a couple stories higher.  But maybe you're right about it will take some time for adjustments or whatever they need to still do. I can give you the address? But most of the band 71 sites aren't impressive right now. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Fairly new.  Maybe under two months.  I know there is a 10 story or under office building in its path.  But the hotel t mobile is on I believe is a couple stories higher.  But maybe you're right about it will take some time for adjustments or whatever they need to still do. I can give you the address? But most of the band 71 sites aren't impressive right now. 
Where I live T-Mobile launched band 71 on pretty much every site. But the capacity is only a 5 MHz chunk of the 10 megahertz they own here. But then again it is what it is.

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 9/11/2019 at 10:25 PM, Brad The Beast said:

I've been testing the T-Mobile network here in Grand Forks for the past two days on the Test Drive program. I am less than impressed. Of the 27 tests I've done, only 4 of them have had download speeds in the double digits. No tests have resulted in upload speeds in the double digits.

Im sure you are aware, but I'd also keep in mind that the hotspot can't CA. IMO the device is meant more for coverage awareness.  

If you want to test speeds, grab a TMobile sim and drop that into an unlocked phone.  Speedtest app is whitelisted. 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, red_dog007 said:

Im sure you are aware, but I'd also keep in mind that the hotspot can't CA. IMO the device is meant more for coverage awareness.  

If you want to test speeds, grab a TMobile sim and drop that into an unlocked phone.  Speedtest app is whitelisted. 

I don't think aggregating with the unusable band 12 would help speeds much since it's pretty much the bands 2 & 12 show here. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I don't think aggregating with the unusable band 12 would help speeds much since it's pretty much the bands 2 & 12 show here. 
I don't even think on the phone side that bands 12 and 71 can be aggregated yet.

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
19 hours ago, jthawks said:

Fairly new.  Maybe under two months.  I know there is a 10 story or under office building in its path.  But the hotel t mobile is on I believe is a couple stories higher.  But maybe you're right about it will take some time for adjustments or whatever they need to still do. I can give you the address? But most of the band 71 sites aren't impressive right now. 

Signal reaches you in a zone that is basically football shaped. Thus that building greatly affects your signal. You can test this by doing tests a few blocks in either direction. Most people think signal is in straight lines in all directions. Often more like a three leave clover or a three petalled flower. Today's antennas are actually made up of dozens of small attennas, each pointable.

The other factor with band 71 is T-Mobile is reserving spectrum for 5g. In other cases more spectrum will be available later.

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 9/23/2019 at 3:58 PM, dkyeager said:

Signal reaches you in a zone that is basically football shaped. Thus that building greatly affects your signal. You can test this by doing tests a few blocks in either direction. Most people think signal is in straight lines in all directions. Often more like a three leave clover or a three petalled flower. Today's antennas are actually made up of dozens of small attennas, each pointable.

The other factor with band 71 is T-Mobile is reserving spectrum for 5g. In other cases more spectrum will be available later.

That's great info thank you very much.  Don't think t mobile is very active in Colorado for building 5g

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, jthawks said:

That's great info thank you very much.  Don't think t mobile is very active in Colorado for building 5g

All of the Band 71 equipment is 5g ready. It needs smartphones and firmware updates. Hopefully the backhaul needed is already installed. Given the same bandwidth, band 71 5g is expected to be twice as fast. This may not sound like much, but when you are at the edge of the cell or indoors it could make a world of difference.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • large.unreadcontent.png.6ef00db54e758d06

  • gallery_1_23_9202.png

  • Similar Content

    • By DesignGuy
      Fierce has a poll posted... and is utilizing a bracket style contest to find out who their readers think is the most powerful person in the telecom industry. Between Marcelo and the pink clad Chihuahua of a man... I give it to Marcelo. I think the final winner should be Masa, it's is a name people know and will get to know more in the coming years worldwide. But for the current poll, it's an easy decision for me!  
       
      http://www.fiercewireless.com/wireless/vote-now-to-decide-who-most-powerful-person-u-s-telecom-industry
       
       
       
    • By lilotimz
      T-mobile Ericsson Cell Equipment
       
      For Ericsson markets t-mobile uses what is known as AIR antenna units which have the radio unit integrated with the antenna. This type of setup significantly reduces signal loss from the radio to the antenna since they're both practically next to each other and not sepearated by coax jumper cables like that of a remote radio unit.
       
      Basic Ericsson AIR21 setup
      (Note typically there are 2 Ericsson AIR per sector)

       

       

       
      Ericsson AIR21 + Band 12 700 mhz Equipment
       
      Note the addition of a new low band 700 mhz capable antenna + Ericsson RRUS11 B12 (remote radio units) in addition to new TMA (tower mounted amplifiers) connected to the AIR antenna. The new Ericsson RRUS11 B12 + Antenna addition is for tmobiles band 12 700mhz (L700) deployment. 

      (Credit: tmo.rocks)
       
      Credit for the photographs belong to whoever took it. You know who you are!
    • By derrph
      With the introduction of the new plans Sprint has announced. I told one of my friends about the $60 unlimited plan and she was shocked yet happy about it. She currently has T-Mobile and there has been times where my Sprint service has out performed her service even in the city with puling up information and out of town...well... you already know how that went. She was talking about switching and stuff but then she sent me a typical article bashing Sprint and I got irritated by it and I had to explain to her that Sprint is not bad at all. These articles are based on past experiences from 3+ years ago. I told her I'm pulling 60+ mbps on LTE but she's worried about Sprint being slow ( because of what she read). Guys give me some advice on persuading her to give Sprint a chance. 
       
      I feel like articles that are being posted is what keeps away customers.  It makes no sense that T-Mobiles 2g network is not spoken about when they are in the news for changes to plans and such. But good ol Sprint makes changes and articles that get posted rips Sprint apart for filth. 
    • By belusnecropolis
      http://ces.cnet.com/8301-35284_1-57616761/how-i-got-t-mobiles-ceo-kicked-out-of-at-ts-ces-party/
      Roger Cheng @cnet appears to have had the most fun out of this, it kind of wrote the story for him I guess, so there is that. Also, just noticed the extra title Q, that is gonna drive some people nuts today. Top lel.
    • By Paynefanbro
      Am I the only one that likes to look at Verizon's coverage comparison tool. I think it gives a good idea of a carrier's generalized coverage as far as those cities that have been announced. However, it takes a while for it to get updated. I look at Verizon's map and think, no one will ever build an LTE network of that size. When I look at T-Mobile, I see a spotty, spread out network. AT&T is also spotty with a few highways covered here and there. Sprint seems to be more put together as in even if it is spotty, they are in blobs rather than random remote areas.
       
      I've also found a few places that Sprint has coverage in but not Verizon such as in southern Texas.
       
      http://www.verizonwireless.com/wcms/consumer/4g-lte.html
  • Posts

  • Recently Browsing

    No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...