Everything 800mhz (1xA, LTE, coverage, timeline, etc)

[digiblur]

Affected Shentel area?  I guess I missed something. 

 

It's not official its just what we've obtained from user reports.  The Note2 launched with 800SMR PRLs last year and I remember users from Chicago (Samsung market) posting 800SMR reports.  Plus combine that with many other confirmations today that the Note2 works in other Samsung markets.

 

Ericsson markets...the Note2 works as well.  My Note2 is idling on channel 476 right now and works fine.

 

Alcatel Lucent markets - I used the 22429 test network while in Vegas in May and I've also seen reports of others using 800SMR in these markets.  Although I will say I haven't seen as many reports from Alcatel Lucent Note2 folks yet. 

 

Shentel - I've seen a few reports from Shentel users when the 800SMR PRL activated their SID that users had many issues with texting and voice calls.  We then saw the 2xxx PRLs come out for the Note2 that removed 800SMR for everyone in the US. 

 

I for one would have thought the problem would have been fixed by now since it was just Shentel users.  I would have assumed Sprint would want to correct the issue quickly as they've stated before that they want to do everything in their power to cut down roaming on VZW.  One would think they would just remove the 800SMR SID of Shentel from the 2xxx series but that's not the case.

[SpenceSouth]

It's not official its just what we've obtained from user reports.  The Note2 launched with 800SMR PRLs last year and I remember users from Chicago (Samsung market) posting 800SMR reports.  Plus combine that with many other confirmations today that the Note2 works in other Samsung markets.

 

Ericsson markets...the Note2 works as well.  My Note2 is idling on channel 476 right now and works fine.

 

Alcatel Lucent markets - I used the 22429 test network while in Vegas in May and I've also seen reports of others using 800SMR in these markets.  Although I will say I haven't seen as many reports from Alcatel Lucent Note2 folks yet. 

 

Shentel - I've seen a few reports from Shentel users when the 800SMR PRL activated their SID that users had many issues with texting and voice calls.  We then saw the 2xxx PRLs come out for the Note2 that removed 800SMR for everyone in the US. 

 

I for one would have thought the problem would have been fixed by now since it was just Shentel users.  I would have assumed Sprint would want to correct the issue quickly as they've stated before that they want to do everything in their power to cut down roaming on VZW.  One would think they would just remove the 800SMR SID of Shentel from the 2xxx series but that's not the case.

 

Huh that's a very odd issue.  Is a third party contractor managing the Shentel upgrades, or are they doing it in-house?  You're right though, it would just make a lot of sense to remove the Shentel 800 SID's instead of everyone.  I'd guess that they aren't completely sure what the issue is and are just airing on the side of caution.  Guess the good news is that there aren't any defects with the phone. 

[OhioCalling]

 Connected to 1X800 for the first time this morning from my office.  I normally roam on Verizon or Alltell unless I am outside the building.  I am happy to finally see some work getting done in my area of Ohio.

 

 

 

 

 

[dmaxx67]

It could be right under your nose and you might not know it. Are you running stock PRLs? If so you'll need to do PRL updates to force a GEO rescan to pick up 800SMR.

I am running 25015. Stock prl.

[digiblur]

I am running 25015. Stock prl.

You will either have to lose the PCS signal or do a manual PRL update in your settings menu to force a PRL rescan to make it look for 800SMR on stock PRLs.

[dmaxx67]

So 1900 is priority on that prl.

[digiblur]

So 1900 is priority on that prl.

No, they are at the same level.

[Dkoellerwx]

 Connected to 1X800 for the first time this morning from my office.  I normally roam on Verizon or Alltell unless I am outside the building.  I am happy to finally see some work getting done in my area of Ohio.

 

I cannot post a screen capture using DropBox?  But the info is;

 

Make sure it's in your public folder? I post all my photos using Dropbox. Works great for me.

[tommym65]

So 1900 is priority on that prl.

 

No, they are at the same level.

 

But, at least in PRL 25015, 800 appears first in the list in most geographies, so a re-scan will find and lock onto 800 if it is present and usable, and fall to 1900 if 800 is absent or is of insufficient strength.  It will then stay locked onto 1900 until 1900 is no longer present or is too weak, or until you force a re-scan by attempting to update the PRL:  On a stock GS3 or GS4 (and on some others, but I don't know which), if you have a usable data signal, a re-scan will check your current PRL, update it if needed, and then force a network re-scan whether or not it updates the PRL. This behavior is also true of other phones and other PRL's, PRL Master Digi would know which.

[OhioCalling]

Make sure it's in your public folder? I post all my photos using Dropbox. Works great for me.

 

Thanks David.  I had to change it from a .png to .jpg file and put it in the Public Folder.  I edited my original post.

 

Dennis

[dmaxx67]

OK so the custom prl puts 800 at a higher level?

[DaQue]

Thanks David.  I had to change it from a .png to .jpg file and put it in the Public Folder.  I edited my original post.

 

Dennis

I don't have problems with .png files but I do have problems with the filenames the camera and phone use by default. 

 

 

Screenshots_2013-09-04-15-59-54.png wont work but if I change it to Shot2.png it works.

[Dkoellerwx]

Thanks David.  I had to change it from a .png to .jpg file and put it in the Public Folder.  I edited my original post.

 

Dennis

 

.PNG should work too, but it's up now so it doesn't really matter

[Dkoellerwx]

I don't have problems with .png files but I do have problems with the filenames the camera and phone use by default. 

 

 

Screenshots_2013-09-04-15-59-54.png wont work but if I change it to Shot2.png it works.

 

That's odd. All of the photos I post generally have names like: 2013-09-01 13.06.08.png

 

[DaQue]

That's odd. All of the photos I post generally have names like: 2013-09-01 13.06.08.png

 

Odd.... You on OSX or linux? Its on windows with Safari I have issues.

[Dkoellerwx]

Odd.... You on OSX or linux? Its on windows with Safari I have issues.

 

Windows. Google Chrome.

[DaQue]

Windows. Google Chrome.

I goofed Im on Chrome too. Haven't had Safari on here in ages.

[davidtm]

So, will the stock 55015 PRL on my HTC One "see" 800 if and when it gets here?

[digiblur]

So, will the stock 55015 PRL on my HTC One "see" 800 if and when it gets here?

It will see it when it needs to look for it.

[Thomas L.]

Why does doing a PRL update force the phone to look for an 800 SMR signal?

 

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 4

 

[tommym65]

Why does doing a PRL update force the phone to look for an 800 SMR signal? Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 4

 

Why is the sun yellow? Why is the grass green?  For some inscrutable reason, the engineers who designed the Android PRL process decided to rescan the 1X network every time a PRL update is successful (even if it doesn't actually UPDATE the PRL).  For equally inscrutable reasons, neither jumping into and out of Airplane Mode nor re-booting the phone has the same effect, although either of those actions forces an LTE scan.

 

Possibly the Great Spectrum God AJ or his PRL Acolyte Digiblur know the the real reasons, but they will now ban me for not giving them equal rank, so I personally will never know.

[WiWavelength]

For equally inscrutable reasons, neither jumping into and out of Airplane Mode nor re-booting the phone has the same effect, although either of those actions forces an LTE scan.

 

Deem it speed and convenience.  Prior to going into airplane mode or rebooting, the handset will store in memory the last SID, NID, and carrier channel on which it idled.  It tries that combo first upon coming out of airplane mode or restarting.  If that combo is available and is of top priority in the PRL, then the handset will not scan for any other combo -- not yet.

 

AJ

[evo bryan]

It's not official its just what we've obtained from user reports. The Note2 launched with 800SMR PRLs last year and I remember users from Chicago (Samsung market) posting 800SMR reports. Plus combine that with many other confirmations today that the Note2 works in other Samsung markets.

 

Ericsson markets...the Note2 works as well. My Note2 is idling on channel 476 right now and works fine.

 

Alcatel Lucent markets - I used the 22429 test network while in Vegas in May and I've also seen reports of others using 800SMR in these markets. Although I will say I haven't seen as many reports from Alcatel Lucent Note2 folks yet.

 

Shentel - I've seen a few reports from Shentel users when the 800SMR PRL activated their SID that users had many issues with texting and voice calls. We then saw the 2xxx PRLs come out for the Note2 that removed 800SMR for everyone in the US.

 

I for one would have thought the problem would have been fixed by now since it was just Shentel users. I would have assumed Sprint would want to correct the issue quickly as they've stated before that they want to do everything in their power to cut down roaming on VZW. One would think they would just remove the 800SMR SID of Shentel from the 2xxx series but that's not the case.

im on a note 2 and running the sponsors prl with 501 I had too many dropped calls when I would loose 800 mhz went to the 500 prl and so far no problems at all I hope they fix the problem so we can get off the 2000 prl but until then I will run didgi prls

 

Sent from my SPH-L900 using Tapatalk 2

 

 

[digiblur]

Deem it speed and convenience. Prior to going into airplane mode or rebooting, the handset will store in memory the last SID, NID, and carrier channel on which it idled.

Taking the words right out of me.. Thanks AJ!

 

And as you guys found, the PRL update whether there is a new one or not, wipes this memory and scans the PRL again. This is by design as the rules for the area could have changed between updates.

[digiblur]

im on a note 2 and running the sponsors prl with 501 I had too many dropped calls when I would loose 800 mhz went to the 500 prl and so far no problems at all I hope they fix the problem so we can get off the 2000 prl but until then I will run didgi prls

 

Sent from my SPH-L900 using Tapatalk 2

No loose 800 here.. Sprint keeps it tight as there isn't much spectrum there to play with and be loose.

 

Yes, the higher priority PRL could cause issues for some as you can find yourself on fringe when there is a perfect PCS signal there from a non 1x800 enabled site. The higher priority PRL is more for folks to use for hunting down 1x800 sites in their area.