Jump to content

T-Mobile LTE & Network Discussion V2

lilotimz

By lilotimz
in General Topics

 Share

Recommended Posts

joshuam Member Level: eHRPD

joshuam

Posted
Posted

They already have the second carrier on air across the country.

 

Oh really? I had no idea! Let me pretend to be surprised. I was referring to NGN (density issues). But thanks for keeping me "in the loop"...

Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • Replies 5.6k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Popular Posts

S4GRU
S4GRU

The bottom line for me is if ALL video streaming was being throttled, why even require content providers subscribe and be approved by T-Mobile? All video that was being throttled should have counted

caspar347
caspar347
S4GRU
S4GRU

Legere's blog post was very misleading. He made it seem the national map was LTE coverage. Either native or through partners. We know it's not LTE coverage.   And not only is it EDGE in the Dakot

Posted Images

orangeblue Member Level: 3G EVDO

orangeblue

Posted
Posted

So let me get this straight, I don't have to turn in my phone. Okay. so no contracts on T-Mobile? So why don't I activate a Boost Line, get the number assigned but no credit refill. Bring that number to T-Mobile, let them pay me $200 for coming to them and cancel next day? Repeat? Profit?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Ascertion Member Level: LTE Advanced

Ascertion

Posted
Posted

So let me get this straight, I don't have to turn in my phone. Okay. so no contracts on T-Mobile? So why don't I activate a Boost Line, get the number assigned but no credit refill. Bring that number to T-Mobile, let them pay me $200 for coming to them and cancel next day? Repeat? Profit?

In the fine print, it'll probably say you must have your line active for 45 days or something of the sorts.  (I haven't read the fine print yet.)

Link to comment
Share on other sites
derrph Member Level: 4G WiMax

derrph

Posted
Posted

So let me get this straight, I don't have to turn in my phone. Okay. so no contracts on T-Mobile? So why don't I activate a Boost Line, get the number assigned but no credit refill. Bring that number to T-Mobile, let them pay me $200 for coming to them and cancel next day? Repeat? Profit?

The $200 is a bill credit.

 

 

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Link to comment
Share on other sites
derrph Member Level: 4G WiMax

derrph

Posted
Posted

Ohhh ok gotcha. That's pretty much two months of bills paid minus the EIP. But I do wonder if adding a line to an existing plan will still qualify or does it have to be a new account new plan?

 

 

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Link to comment
Share on other sites
boiker Member Level: 1x Advanced

boiker

Posted
Posted

T-Mobile is still more expensive than Sprint in regards to those on the old ED1500.  Until subsidy dies, those on the legacy plans will always have the best value in wireless.  Still, it is tempting, though.

 

As an ED1500 plan holder who is ready to jump ship to T-mobile,  everything you say is true as long as the network is in good shape.  I have the unfortunate circumstances of living next to / in a big donut hole of coverage in the suburbs.  Also, I need a 6th line and I can't add it to my plan.  

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Ascertion Member Level: LTE Advanced

Ascertion

Posted
Posted

As an ED1500 plan holder who is ready to jump ship to T-mobile,  everything you say is true as long as the network is in good shape.  I have the unfortunate circumstances of living next to / in a big donut hole of coverage in the suburbs.  Also, I need a 6th line and I can't add it to my plan.  

I was able to get a 6th line added to my account.  I'd recommend contacting Sprint's executive team to see if they'll make an exception for you.  Marci Carris

Link to comment
Share on other sites
boiker Member Level: 1x Advanced

boiker

Posted
Posted

I was able to get a 6th line added to my account.  I'd recommend contacting Sprint's executive team to see if they'll make an exception for you.  Marci Carris

 

I got a 6th line exception, but I'm required to secure the phone through telesales or a sprint store.  Unfortunately, they just don't have competitive pricing on 2 year agreements.  I'm looking at the $1 Best Buy Iphone 6.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Fraydog Member Level: LTE Advanced

Fraydog

Posted
Posted

I concur -- to an extent. But there is at least one hole in the data speeds theory: usage.

 

I think that I have offered this or a similar analogy previously. A two lane highway with little traffic moving at 65 mph can seem a lot faster than an eight lane freeway with rush hour traffic moving at 30 mph. But which one actually is more functional, which one actually is doing more work?

 

Constantly seeking out the fastest wireless network data speeds is like playing "Whac-A-Mole." If many gravitate to that so called fastest network, then it soon will no longer be the fastest network. Thus, move on to the next network that previously got unloaded and became the fastest. The cycle perpetuates itself.

 

AJ

I just don't know if wireless networks are 1 to 1 comps to highways. I think a better analogy would be ramping up capacity in the areas where large amounts of people are congregated first, even though that isn't likely to generate higher speeds tests per se. Right now I would actually rate VZ a little better than T-Mobile at this given VZ has come out and said that their focus is to deliver capacity where it is needed first while T-Mobile seems to care more about the speed test crown over more consistent results. That's the entire issue with Ookla BTW - their data set will swing urban because of crowd sourcing, T-Mobile zero rating SpeedTest, and Verizon charging data for SpeedTest. That distorts that sample a bit.

 

Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

Link to comment
Share on other sites
nick Member Level: 1x Advanced

nick

Posted
Posted

I just don't know if wireless networks are 1 to 1 comps to highways. I think a better analogy would be ramping up capacity in the areas where large amounts of people are congregated first, even though that isn't likely to generate higher speeds tests per se. Right now I would actually rate VZ a little better than T-Mobile at this given VZ has come out and said that their focus is to deliver capacity where it is needed first while T-Mobile seems to care more about the speed test crown over more consistent results. That's the entire issue with Ookla BTW - their data set will swing urban because of crowd sourcing, T-Mobile zero rating SpeedTest, and Verizon charging data for SpeedTest. That distorts that sample a bit.

 

Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

more than just a bit, I'm my opinion it makes Ookla speed test crown nearly meaningless... Look at fast speed tests data usage some are 100 plus Megs, who in their right mind would blow through 10 of those every month if costs you money, either overages or needing a higher data plan? Not only is it white listed but it's prioritized. In my opinion that's no better than Samsung when they set their cpu to over clock for all performance testing. It's not representative of real world experience.

 

 

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Ascertion Member Level: LTE Advanced

Ascertion

Posted
Posted

I can't believe we managed to ignore the tweet storm that Marcelo put out today for T-Mobile.

 

http://www.androidheadlines.com/2015/11/sprint-ceo-takes-to-twitter-to-defend-company-against-t-mobile.html

Haha, every metrics except speed, really. Just wish Sprint had a way for simultaneous talk/data. It really does wonders when Sprint's rural coverage is still more consistent with ~20k less macros than T-Mobile.

 

Sent from my Nexus 5X

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Fraydog Member Level: LTE Advanced

Fraydog

Posted
Posted

What's with it with T-Mobile and unreliable SMS/MMS?

"Upgrade to a device with RCS is the new stock answer", never mind that RCS is used by almost no one. Maybe that would work when Verizon and AT&T implement RCS interoperability with TMo, but I know that Verizon and AT&T don't like to do half baked releases.

 

I realize AT&T has RCS now but it's only on the S6 Active and S5 Mini.

 

Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

Link to comment
Share on other sites
travismheim Member Level: 4G WiMax

travismheim

Posted
Posted

I got a 6th line exception, but I'm required to secure the phone through telesales or a sprint store. Unfortunately, they just don't have competitive pricing on 2 year agreements. I'm looking at the $1 Best Buy Iphone 6.

Can you add a line with an existing owned device, then go to Best buy and get the "upgrade"?

 

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites
bipbapbam Member Level: iDEN *chirp*

bipbapbam

Posted
Posted

Can you add a line with an existing owned device, then go to Best buy and get the "upgrade"?

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

I think this is probably the best bet.

 

And on that note, is it possible to transfer an upgrade to another line on your account? And if so, how would you go about doing that?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Houston_Texas Member Level: 1x Advanced

Houston_Texas

Posted
Posted

Haha, every metrics except speed, really. Just wish Sprint had a way for simultaneous talk/data. It really does wonders when Sprint's rural coverage is still more consistent with ~20k less macros than T-Mobile.

 

Sent from my Nexus 5X

Yea, VoLTE would be awesome.

 

Sent from my SM-N910T

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Paynefanbro Member Level: LTE Advanced

Paynefanbro

Posted
Posted

Haha, every metrics except speed, really. Just wish Sprint had a way for simultaneous talk/data. It really does wonders when Sprint's rural coverage is still more consistent with ~20k less macros than T-Mobile.

 

Sent from my Nexus 5X

 

It's because of the "horrible CDMA".

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites
bigsnake49 Member Level: LTE Advanced

bigsnake49

Posted
Posted

Haha, every metrics except speed, really. Just wish Sprint had a way for simultaneous talk/data. It really does wonders when Sprint's rural coverage is still more consistent with ~20k less macros than T-Mobile.

 

Sent from my Nexus 5X

Most of those ~20K macros are in urban settings.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • large.unreadcontent.png.6ef00db54e758d06

  • gallery_1_23_9202.png

  • Similar Content

  • Posts

    • Wiley_11
      Keep a Word, Drop a Word #7

      By Wiley_11 · Posted

      bubble butt  
    • dkyeager
      Official Tmobile-Sprint merger discussion thread

      By dkyeager · Posted

      T-Mobile has saved its 28Mhz mmWave licenses by using the point to point method to do environment monitoring inside its cabinets. The attachment below shows the antennas used: https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/ApplicationSearch/applAdmin.jsp;JSESSIONID_APPSEARCH=LxvbnJuvusmIklPhKy6gVK7f9uwylrZ8LiNf3BqIKlDp3_5GxoBr!300973589!225089709?applID=14787154#   Here are the sites for Franklin county OH: https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsEntry/attachments/attachmentViewRD.jsp?applType=search&fileKey=66518254&attachmentKey=21989782&attachmentInd=applAttach
    • wispiANt
      Network Vision/LTE - New York City Market

      By wispiANt · Posted

      Yep, there is a label on the side of the box but it doesn't provide any useful info that the city doesn't already provide (Crown Castle Solutions is the franchisee). You can see my graphical interpretation of the city's dataset here.
    • dkyeager
      Official Tmobile-Sprint merger discussion thread

      By dkyeager · Posted

      T-Mobile UScellular agreement links from SEC filings: https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/821130/000110465924065665/tm2415626d2_8k.htm Look inside for main link. Credit mdav-dos1 on reddit
    • chamb
      Official Tmobile-Sprint merger discussion thread

      By chamb · Posted

      Totally agree.  In my county and surrounding counties, TM did not place n-41 on every site.  When I look at the sites in question, I probably would have not placed it there either.  I can find just a few with n-71 only and in most of those cases if you live there and know the probable usage of the residents, you would not do a full upgrade on those sites.  One site in particular is set up to force feed n-71 through a long tunnel on the Turnpike.  No stopping allowed in the tunnel. No stores, movie theaters, bathrooms, so n41 would be a waste.    n25 is not really needed either, so it is not there.  The tunnel is going through & under a mountain with more black bears than people.  TM was smart.  Get good coverage in the tunnel but do not waste many many thousands of dollars with extra unused spectrum. I also see sites with only n71 & n25.  Again this makes sense to me.  Depending on what county we are talking about, they moved much of their b25 from LTE to nr.  Some counties have more n25 than a neighboring county, but luckily, it is plenty everywhere.   When you are in a very rural area, n41 can run up the bills and then be barely used.  I am NOT finding sites that should have had n41 but TM failed to provide it.  They may have to come back later in a few years and upgrade the site to n41.  However, we just may eventually see the last little piece on Band 25 leave LTE and move to n25. I am not sure if the satellite to phone service is using band 25 G block as LTE or nr. We also can possibly have at least some AWS move from LTE to nr at some point.  Yes, everybody wants n41. it is not justified in some cases.  When I travel, I desire some decent service along the entire route but it does not have to be 1 or 2 gig download.   If I can get 50/5 on a speedtest with data that will flow and not stutter, I am very happy. Yes, they will swap out the USC gear.  TM needs to match their existing network. The USCC equipment did the job for years, but it is time to retire it.

  • Recently Browsing

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...