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Connected to Band 41 tonight with my Nexus 5 and well.....I'll just let the pictures do the talking

 

Edit: The pics were a little too big lol

Cant wait to see the pic, just kinda odd that Cali is the only place the N5 has connected to any B41 as far as I can tell...

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Honestly I know this is off topic but I was reading this article about Verizon tripling its Speeds in major cities and I really think it's pointless. I feel like it's pointless for Carriers like Verizon & AT&T to have LTE because all they're gonna do is cap & throttle data & depending on how much data you have (2GB-50GB ) it's pointless and a waste a money. Then the prices for these low GB plans is ridiculous. More money thats just being wasted.

 

I have the original unlimited family plan with 4 people on it. I went to the Verizon website to check how much it'd be if my whole family were to switch & its almost double for some low amount of Data. Please let me know im how my family & I are supposed to split 6GB 4 ways -_-. I just don't see the point.

 

The only thing Verizon/AT&T are good for is competition & motivation for other carriers to be better & surpass them. Betchu if Verizon/AT&T didn't exist then we probably wouldn't have had LTE until 2020. Lol im being dramatic but you guys get the point.

 

 

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Honestly I know this is off topic but I was reading this article about Verizon tripling its Speeds in major cities and I really think it's pointless. I feel like it's pointless for Carriers like Verizon & AT&T to have LTE because all they're gonna do is cap & throttle data & depending on how much data you have (2GB-50GB ) it's pointless and a waste a money. Then the prices for these low GB plans is ridiculous. More money thats just being wasted.

 

I have the original unlimited family plan with 4 people on it. I went to the Verizon website to check how much it'd be if my whole family were to switch & its almost double for some low amount of Data. Please let me know im how my family & I are supposed to split 6GB 4 ways -_-. I just don't see the point.

 

The only thing Verizon/AT&T are good for is competition & motivation for other carriers to be better & surpass them. Betchu if Verizon/AT&T didn't exist then we probably wouldn't have had LTE until 2020. Lol im being dramatic but you guys get the point.

 

 

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They are increasing capacity because 4G has slowed to a crawl in many places, even if you have a cap what is the point of 4G if you are limited to 3G speeds.  Also remember there are people that still have unlimited on both AT&T & VZW.  All of our business devices even new activation's are unlimited data on VZW.

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I found the TDLTE upload to be greatly affected by signal strength with signal strength weaker than -113db my upload would be lucky to break 2mbps where the download can be greater than 20mbps

 

in the -90db range I can crack 10mbps

 

1 test in the -80db range I was getting 15mbps upload

 

This was on the HTC one max (reception not as good as the G2/N5 i think) and downtown chicago

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I found the TDLTE upload to be greatly affected by signal strength with signal strength weaker than -113db my upload would be lucky to break 2mbps where the download can be greater than 20mbps

 

No, that much lower uplink performance really has nothing to do with TD-LTE signal strength.  By its nature, FDD operation has a fixed throughput ratio between downlink and uplink of about 4:1.  TDD operation, on the other hand, has variable throughput ratios between downlink and uplink.  The configuration that Clearwire is using should result in a ratio of roughly 8:1.  And your observed performance is around that range.

 

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No, that much lower uplink performance really has nothing to do with TD-LTE signal strength.  By its nature, FDD operation has a fixed throughput ratio between downlink and uplink of about 4:1.  TDD operation, on the other hand, has variable throughput ratios between downlink and uplink.  The configuration that Clearwire is using should result in a ratio of roughly 8:1.  And your observed performance is around that range.

 

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Interesting. I think I read that the down/up time ratio was 3/2 or something like that. I assumed that would mean that up load speed could hit 2/3 of down load. I also wondered why FDD was so much faster on the down load than the up load when both have a 5 Mhz carrier.  Must be some interesting things going on with different modulation schemes of the low power phones transmissions and the high power cell sites to have about the same range. Faster needs more power to get the S/N up to a usable level so it makes sense.

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Interesting. I think I read that the down/up time ratio was 3/2 or something like that. I assumed that would mean that up load speed could hit 2/3 of down load. I also wondered why FDD was so much faster on the down load than the up load when both have a 5 Mhz carrier.  Must be some interesting things going on with different modulation schemes of the low power phones transmissions and the high power cell sites to have about the same range. Faster needs more power to get the S/N up to a usable level so it makes sense.

 

Yeah, you are not taking into account both MIMO and higher order modulations schemes on the downlink.

 

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but down the street where the signal was stronger I was getting 40 down 15 up...? would that mean my 40 down is in fact due to backhaul capacity and if given enough back haul i could have gotten 15 x 8.... ~120mbps up?

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but down the street where the signal was stronger I was getting 40 down 15 up...? would that mean my 40 down is in fact due to backhaul capacity and if given enough back haul i could have gotten 15 x 8.... ~120mbps up?

 

Yes and no.  Backhaul is probably a limiting factor.  But you also have the HTC One max, which sticks with an older Cat 3 baseband.  It cannot exceed 100 Mbps on the downlink.  The handsets with the newer Cat 4 baseband can do 150 Mbps.

 

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Yes and no. Backhaul is probably a limiting factor. But you also have the HTC One max, which sticks with an older Cat 3 baseband. It cannot exceed 100 Mbps on the downlink. The handsets with the newer Cat 4 baseband can do 150 Mbps.

 

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What handset is that?

 

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What handset is that?

 

That has a Cat 4 baseband? Any handset utilizing the MSM8974.

 

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Can that change with an update/baseband update or the phones hardware?

Hardware. It is basically akin to a dual core vs a quad core processor.

 

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I feel like it's pointless for Carriers like Verizon & AT&T to have LTE

 

Please let me know im how my family & I are supposed to split 6GB 4 ways -_-.

In most areas, Verizon is significantly faster and they have better coverage more places. Also, the majority of people are going to use less than 1.5 gigabytes.

 

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In most areas, Verizon is significantly faster and they have better coverage more places. Also, the majority of people are going to use less than 1.5 gigabytes.

 

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As I have observed, with a faster more reliable connection data usage goes up. Since Tulsa got LTE for most of the area, I've seen each of my family members data use roughly triple. My brother now uses around 9 gigs a month where he used to use 2-3. My dad's usage has skyrocketed from 300mb or less to 4-5 gigs (probably because he now trusts that streaming will work).

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