Sprint Rep: Backhaul stops during the winter.

[Shanner068]

The rep at my local Sprint store said they were only doing one more small city with Backhaul in my market before winter comes because the ground freezes. He said they will start work again next March or April. Does this guy know what he is talking about. I've never seen winter stop construction around here before.

[koiulpoi]

I wouldn't trust a rep at a Sprint store for anything, and I am one. They don't tell us hardly anything related to network vision. Chances are he doesn't know what he's talking about, unless the info came from here. (PS s4gru is awesome)

 

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[The Dave]

Better start searching for that groundhog now before it is too late.

[chamb]

The rep at my local Sprint store said they were only doing one more small city with Backhaul in my market before winter comes because the ground freezes. He said they will start work again next March or April. Does this guy know what he is talking about. I've never seen winter stop construction around here before.

You sure can dig a ditch with a backhoe when the ground is froze, but it is a little harder.  The problem can be the replacement of concrete or asphalt in the winter. In many states, there is a state restriction on replacing asphalt on highways after a certain date because of low temperatures. I do not know about any rules in your local area.

[S4GRU]

The rep at my local Sprint store said they were only doing one more small city with Backhaul in my market before winter comes because the ground freezes. He said they will start work again next March or April. Does this guy know what he is talking about. I've never seen winter stop construction around here before.

Backhaul deployment continued last winter. And there are all different types of runs/connections. Many sites already have fiber nearby. Also, fiber can be strung overhead too. It's not always under ground.

 

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[tongboy]

Fiber and copper are laid in the ground year round. I have done it. It is not an enjoyable experience at all, but doable.

 

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[newboyx]

Plenty of markets (very cold ones included) had fiber ran in the middle of winter last year.

 

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[imex99]

On the backhaul topic, if backhaul is already on a site, does sprint just connect to it or run from nearby connector?

 

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[lil_jimmy_norton]

I wouldn't trust a rep at a Sprint store for anything, and I am one. 

 

 

As a fellow rep I concur.

 

Anyone who reads this site regularly would know more about NV than your average Sprint rep.

[kg4icg]

Coming from a equipment side of things. Moles have problems when the ground is frozen so if they are running new fiber lines it will take longer. But it is possible to continue thru winter unless there is a lot of snow and ice on the ground then things change. Will not be able to steer the mole because of not being able to read where it is.

 

[tommym65]

The rep at my local Sprint store said they were only doing one more small city with Backhaul in my market before winter comes because the ground freezes. He said they will start work again next March or April. Does this guy know what he is talking about. I've never seen winter stop construction around here before.

 

You sure can dig a ditch with a backhoe when the ground is froze, but it is a little harder.  The problem can be the replacement of concrete or asphalt in the winter. In many states, there is a state restriction on replacing asphalt on highways after a certain date because of low temperatures. I do not know about any rules in your local area.

 

Most underground cable is now installed using "trenchless" technology.  Basically, this is a drill, not an excavator, and can easily run the cable under the frost line in all but the coldest situations.  It can also drill through inches/feet of frost in order to get under the frozen layer.  One of the major benefits of trenchless underground is that you don't need to displace concrete or asphalt, you just go under it.  So, highways, frost, other underground stuff, etc., are not always a barrier, and cable installations can be done year-round in almost all of the continental US.

 

Edit: Of course, as kg4icg rightly points out, a heavy snow.ice layer on top of the ground may prevent the operator from being able to track the device properly.

[The Dave]

Sprint should hire Ben Affleck. He can even drill on an asteroid. A little snow won't stand in the way.

[Shanner068]

It does seem odd that they would set a date to stop doing work because every year is different. Last year it didn't get cold or snow until after Christmas. They obviously don't know what the weather is going to be like in the coming months.

[Cubbiefan82]

Sounds like that rep needs to join s4gru, so he can stop talking out of his butt and stop making stuff up also. I know a few guys on this site that work for sprint, with this site it helps them better inform there customers with what is going on.

[shannonbrian]

Total bs.

[digiblur]

Sprint should hire Ben Affleck. He can even drill on an asteroid. A little snow won't stand in the way.

Unfortunately Ben Affleck defied the laws of physics in that movie with simple drilling.

[WiWavelength]

Unfortunately Ben Affleck defied the laws of physics in that movie with simple drilling.

 

Having a butt crack on his face also defies the laws of physics.

 

 

AJ

[simplesam]

It doesn't stop, but it definitely slows down. All work in the north slows down during winter.

[JonnygATL]

But winter is still a long way off, even in cities like Fargo and Minneapolis. It's technically still summer so let's not get prematurely worked up. Mmmkay?

[jefbal99]

Most underground cable is now installed using "trenchless" technology.  Basically, this is a drill, not an excavator, and can easily run the cable under the frost line in all but the coldest situations.  It can also drill through inches/feet of frost in order to get under the frozen layer.  One of the major benefits of trenchless underground is that you don't need to displace concrete or asphalt, you just go under it.  So, highways, frost, other underground stuff, etc., are not always a barrier, and cable installations can be done year-round in almost all of the continental US.

 

Edit: Of course, as kg4icg rightly points out, a heavy snow.ice layer on top of the ground may prevent the operator from being able to track the device properly.

I've got at&t scheduled to do a ton of boring over the next 6 months (well, at&t's construction contractor), they work all winter long.

[AJC1973]

This rumor happened last year.. And oh it was false then... Unless we have the day after tomorrow. Type freeze lightning I imagine this winter will be like lastvyear

[JimBob]

The rep at my local Sprint store said they were only doing one more small city with Backhaul in my market before winter comes because the ground freezes. He said they will start work again next March or April. Does this guy know what he is talking about. I've never seen winter stop construction around here before.

We need more global warming.

[The Dave]

We need more global warming.

I have a box of aerosol cans in the garage. Let's have a party..

[cdk]

I have a box of aerosol cans in the garage. Let's have a party..

 

I am not sure the global effects of that party will be significant, but the local effects might be.

[Nickel]

I am not sure the global effects of that party will be significant, but the local effects might be.

No, he lives in Florida, they wouldn't even notice the difference.