The Iphone 5s & Iphone 5c [not Tri-Band LTE] (was "Next iPhone to be announced on September 10")

[jreuschl]

Another question to be answered..  Will the iPhone 5S have a PRL that leaves 800MHz SMR at lowest priority like it is in the iPhone 5?

[sbolen]

Anyone planning to upgrade to a 5S or 5C please explain why and what you're upgrading from.

 

Curious

 

My wife and I both own the iPhone 4S. It's contractually time to upgrade, and we both want the new iPhone 5S, as LTE is finally showing up in more of the St. Louis market.

 

I'm still on the 3G for data, and that royally sucks.

 

Also, I do iOS design and development, so my choice is clear.

[WiWavelength]

Another question to be answered..  Will the iPhone 5S have a PRL that leaves 800MHz SMR at lowest priority like it is in the iPhone 5?

 

iPhone 5, 5S, and 5C should likely all be on the same PRL version, as they share the same capabilities and limitations.

 

AJ

[MacinJosh]

iPhone 5, 5S, and 5C should likely all be on the same PRL version, as they share the same capabilities and limitations.

 

AJ

I sure hope that changes, as the PCS signal in my home isn't very great. I like the propagation characteristics of 800 MHz CDMA.

 

 

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[tigmd99]

Looks like we can all order 5S on 9/20/13!!

 

Link: http://www.sprint.com/landings/iphone5s/?INTNAV=LP:iPhone5C:091013:iPhone5S:Learnmore

[GregSmoov]

My wife and I both own the iPhone 4S. It's contractually time to upgrade, and we both want the new iPhone 5S, as LTE is finally showing up in more of the St. Louis market.

 

I'm still on the 3G for data, and that royally sucks.

 

Also, I do iOS design and development, so my choice is clear.

4S to 5S makes sense to me.

5 to 5S not so much though. Just does't offer much

[sbolen]

4S to 5S makes sense to me.

5 to 5S not so much though. Just does't offer much

 

I agree... now, if the iPhone 6 comes out with tri-band (which, here's hoping), I'll make that jump immediately, even if I have to buy off-subsidy. 

[MacinJosh]

I agree... now, if the iPhone 6 comes out with tri-band (which, here's hoping), I'll make that jump immediately, even if I have to buy off-subsidy. 

 

I'm buying the 5S off subsidy. Then I will buy the 6 on subsidy next year.

[sbolen]

I'm buying the 5S off subsidy. Then I will buy the 6 on subsidy next year.

I just want to get back on the feature phone upgrade path. We left AT&T the moment Sprint picked up the 4S... At least the 5S is a very compelling update from the 4S.

 

I'm going 64GB in Gold. You?

[MacinJosh]

32GB Silver. May go for 64GB. Still debating.

[IsaiahL]

I agree... now, if the iPhone 6 comes out with tri-band (which, here's hoping), I'll make that jump immediately, even if I have to buy off-subsidy.

I think the iPhone 6 will be Tri-Band , by that time 2500/2600 mhz should be fully deployed or close & you guys should know Apple by now they wait last minute to do things. The screen size change took mad long , LTE took long too & they still didn't put NFC on the iPhone .

 

 

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[SWMich4G]

Put me down as pleasantly surprised. Even their mid-priced iPhone 5c has the 800 band? I was not expecting that for sure.

 

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I'm not really surprised but if I was an iphone guy I'd definitely upgrade.  800 by itself might be worth it, but with the processor upgrade you don't have to worry about it getting sluggish before your next upgrade.  I live in an area that you NEED 800 to not have dead spots though.  In an urban location (especially one getting TD-LTE before 1900 LTE) I'd be very disappointed with it not being tri-band. 

 

And I wish people wouldn't call the 5c a "mid-priced" phone.  It's 85% the cost of the 5s.  $550 compared to $650.  A $300 would be mid-priced (free on contract).  You pay back that subsidy a little each month.  The $100 initial savings is so insignificant compared to the ~$2500 you're paying over the life of the phone. 

[nobius]

And I wish people wouldn't call the 5c a "mid-priced" phone.  It's 85% the cost of the 5s.  $550 compared to $650.  A $300 would be mid-priced (free on contract).  You pay back that subsidy a little each month.  The $100 initial savings is so insignificant compared to the ~$2500 you're paying over the life of the phone. 

I honestly can't think of a reason to get a 5c unless it's for a teenager or unless you're really cheap.  Just pay the extra $100 and get a faster processor, better camera, and Touch ID.

[apgwireless]

 still didn't put NFC on the iPhone .

 

 

And they probably never will...

 

http://gigaom.com/2013/09/10/with-ibeacon-apple-is-going-to-dump-on-nfc-and-embrace-the-internet-of-things/

[sbolen]

I honestly can't think of a reason to get a 5c unless it's for a teenager or unless you're really cheap. Just pay the extra $100 and get a faster processor, better camera, and Touch ID.

I'd be willing to bet that the 5c outsells the 5s.

[MagnusOchncap]

I'd be willing to bet that the 5c outsells the 5s.

Yea, I bet you are right. $99 is a great entry price for the 5c. Muggles will walk into the stores and see these new 5c devices and wonder why they should spend $200 for the iPhone 5s and most Android phones when they can get that for $99.

 

One imagines the 5c becoming their most popular phone, like the MacBook Air is their most popular laptop, and the 5s and MacBook Pros is where they do the new technologies at a slight premium.

[Deval]

Yea, I bet you are right. $99 is a great entry price for the 5c. Muggles will walk into the stores and see these new 5c devices and wonder why they should spend $200 for the iPhone 5s and most Android phones when they can get that for $99.

 

One imagines the 5c becoming their most popular phone, like the MacBook Air is their most popular laptop, and the 5s and MacBook Pros is where they do the new technologies at a slight premium.

I wish I could give you an upvote for the use of the world muggle.

[nobius]

Yea, I bet you are right. $99 is a great entry price for the 5c. Muggles will walk into the stores and see these new 5c devices and wonder why they should spend $200 for the iPhone 5s and most Android phones when they can get that for $99.

 

One imagines the 5c becoming their most popular phone, like the MacBook Air is their most popular laptop, and the 5s and MacBook Pros is where they do the new technologies at a slight premium.

 

I'd be willing to bet that the 5c outsells the 5s.

 

 

Wall Street doesn't seem to agree with y'all.

[sbolen]

Wall Street doesn't seem to agree with y'all.

That's because they wanted the 5c to be super cheap. They believed their own hype...

[IsaiahL]

I'd be willing to bet that the 5c outsells the 5s.

It definitely will , 1 it comes in colors , 2 its cheaper , tho it doesn't have the new camera & fingerprint sensor its still not worth the upgrade even for those with the 4S especially if your 4S is still in good working condition .

 

 

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[Thomas L.]

Sprint CFO Joe Euteneuer confirmed that Apple's newest iPhones, the iPhone 5s and 5c, do not support LTE on 2.5 GHz spectrum, which Sprint will use for a nationwide TD-LTE deployment.

 

... It's not clear if or when Apple will add TD-LTE support for Band 41, which lies in 2.5 GHz spectrum. China Mobile has said starting next year it will require its TD-LTE devices to support Band 41.

 

http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/sprint-cfo-apples-iphone-5s-and-5c-do-not-support-lte-25-ghz-spectrum/2013-09-11?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Editor&utm_campaign=SocialMedia

 

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[tigmd99]

That article almost makes it sound like 2500 is the most important frequency to have....

[sbolen]

Sprint CFO Joe Euteneuer confirmed that Apple's newest iPhones, the iPhone 5s and 5c, do not support LTE on 2.5 GHz spectrum, which Sprint will use for a nationwide TD-LTE deployment.

 

... It's not clear if or when Apple will add TD-LTE support for Band 41, which lies in 2.5 GHz spectrum. China Mobile has said starting next year it will require its TD-LTE devices to support Band 41.

 

http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/sprint-cfo-apples-iphone-5s-and-5c-do-not-support-lte-25-ghz-spectrum/2013-09-11?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Editor&utm_campaign=SocialMedia

 

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So, the iPhone 6 will support 41. Cool.

[Dfarley]

I am very disappointed that Apple did not include band 41 in the 5s...for all the reasons mentioned earlier, but for selfish reasons as well.  I live and work in the IBEZ, and therefore I don't anticipate widespread 800 anytime soon - although my market has shown some ability to include 1x SMR, it's still not a forgone conclusion that North East Ohio should expect 800 LTE on any or all sites.  On top of that, LTE on both 1.9 and 800 can only be rolled out in our market as fast as the crews can install the new equipment, backhaul, etc.  We do, however, have 2.5 Wimax available throughout our area so I was very excited to see if LTE is live yet; at the very least I would anticipate the roll-out to be much quicker for 2.5 than the 1.9 and / or 800.  When the iPhone 5 was released it was reported that it would not be compatible with the AWS bands that TMobile was rolling LTE out on, only the PCS bands which were far more limited.  But if I recall, Apple pushed out a firmware update to the device enabling it to operate on TMobile's AWS frequency.  Could the same thing be possible for the 5s and band 41?  I know it's not likely, but is it even possible since band 41 was not included in the original FCC filings?

[IamMrFamous07]

I expected the iPhone 5s/c to be single band so to hear it supported 800 lte I'm definitely estactic about that. I'm contemplating about selling my iPhone 5 in exchange for

Iphone 5c. I live in the country so lte on 2600 is not that important but it would have been nice if it was included