halcyoncmdr Posted September 26, 2013 Author Share Posted September 26, 2013 Anyone know anything about PRL 20989 -- it's what I currently have on my iPhone 5s. I did a few searches here and on XDA and didn't turn up anything. I haven't had a chance to go through the PRL list since the 5S launch. I know the 5S and 5C use different C-SIM cards instead of the standard UICC cards every other LTE device uses (albeit each slightly different for mini/nano size and whether they allow GSM or not). Makes sense that something different might be required for the PRLs as well, Apple loves to make things more complicated. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digiblur Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Makes sense that something different might be required for the PRLs as well, Apple loves to make things more complicated. And Sprint loves to make many useless series of PRLs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnoj Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 And Sprint loves to make many useless series of PRLs... Such as the 54xxx series? Since it seems to be for corporate world phones like 56xxx apparently is... Anyways, looks like a new set of PRLs have been released. Sprint just pushed 54016 to me, which of course overrode the custom PRL I had been using in place of the previously issued 54015. I am curious to see if the full set of 1x 800 SIDs have now been added. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryry4ya Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 On 25016 Evo LTE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UPdownLoAD Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Any idea what's changed on this PRL update set? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digiblur Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Any idea what's changed on this PRL update set? I'll let you know when someone pulls it from their device and sends it to me. No one has done this yet though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobius Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Just did ##UPDATE# on my iPhone 5 and now I'm on 51098. I used to be on 51097. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForce627 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 My guess is we're either losing native coverage like always, or this has something to do with that uscc transaction in the Chicago area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueAngel Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Just did ##UPDATE# on my iPhone 5 and now I'm on 51098. I used to be on 51097. Just got the update on my 5, curious as to what's changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I'm in the Chicago burbs and just received my 5s in the mail. PRL is 20989, too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imex99 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I'll let you know when someone pulls it from their device and sends it to me. No one has done this yet though. How do you do this, if I have time and can, I'll try... Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digiblur Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 How do you do this, if I have time and can, I'll try... Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 4 If you find the QPST guide for your device on writing a PRL all you do is hit read and save. It usually saves as rl0 but it is still a PRL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayoh14 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Just updated my PRL and it now says 25016. It was 25015. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kckid Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 The PRL on the HTC Evo is now 55016 I got it the other day, but couldn't remember if that is what it was before I updated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooeydj Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 My EVO says 25016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digiblur Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 We know the PRL versions based on the devices and account types already I have the new versions thanks to autoprime and I will be checking them out. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digiblur Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Interesting... we have a new 800SMR channel in the scan: 1X: S/476 S/487 S/526 So, using AJ's formula in his article, "What's the frequency, Kenneth?" Interpreting your engineering screen. Part two. uplink center frequency (MHz) = 806 + (0.025 × carrier channel)downlink center frequency (MHz) = 851 + (0.025 × carrier channel) 476 = 817.9 downlink / 862.9 uplink 487 = 818.175 downlink / 863.175 uplink 526 = 819.15 downlink / 864.15 uplink I thought maybe this is what Sprint did with the 800SMR that went missing in our area earlier this week but I still can't connect to it even though I scan see it on the spectrum analyzer. I'll have to check to the see the exact frequency the carrier is at now though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiWavelength Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Interesting... we have a new 800SMR channel in the scan: 1X: S/476 S/487 S/526 Honestly, I am not surprised. My suspicions had been raised, as I have not had CDMA1X 800 for about the last week now. If the carrier channel assignment has been shifted from SMR 476 to SMR 487, that would explain the disappearance. Sprint may have determined that it needed to shift the CDMA1X 800 carrier up a few hundred kHz for out of band emissions reasons. Who knows? But this change should not affect the 5 MHz FDD LTE 800 carrier at all. Even at SMR 487 with a downlink center frequency of 863.175 MHz, the upper 625 kHz of the CDMA1X carrier should extend to around 863.8 MHz. On the downlink, that still leaves 864-869 MHz for the 5 MHz FDD carrier. AJ 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digiblur Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Preliminary reports:800SMR scans now include channel 487.CA GEOs scan an additional PCS channelAlaska Digitel changed from native to roaming indicator shown.Cleaned out some old unused Alltel SIDsAnd that's about it so far... I'll do some additional digging later today. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digiblur Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Honestly, I am not surprised. My suspicions had been raised, as I have not had CDMA1X 800 for about the last week now. If the carrier channel assignment has been shifted from SMR 476 to SMR 487, that would explain the disappearance. Sprint may have determined that it needed to shift the CDMA1X 800 carrier up a few hundred kHz for out of band emissions reasons. Who knows? But this change should not affect the 5 MHz FDD LTE 800 carrier at all. Even at SMR 487 with a downlink center frequency of 863.175 MHz, the upper 625 kHz of the CDMA1X carrier should extend to around 863.8 MHz. On the downlink, that still leaves 864-869 MHz for the 5 MHz FDD carrier. AJ Thanks for the additional info. Probably why I haven't seen them turning up 800SMR on any new sites in over a month now here. Weird that I still can't connect to it with this new PRL. Will have to do some more research. Maybe I'm not holding it right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chamb Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Thanks for the additional info. Probably why I haven't seen them turning up 800SMR on any new sites in over a month now here. Weird that I still can't connect to it with this new PRL. Will have to do some more research. Maybe I'm not holding it right? Still connecting to 800 SMR on 476 in Shentel area. Using Galaxy S3 with 25016 PRL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuhfhrh Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 This probably explains why I haven't seen 800mhz on my usual towers these past 2 weeks. Thanks Digiblur for the quick analysis! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiWavelength Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Thanks for the additional info. Probably why I haven't seen them turning up 800SMR on any new sites in over a month now here. Weird that I still can't connect to it with this new PRL. Will have to do some more research. Maybe I'm not holding it right? For the time being, Sprint may have turned down the sync and paging channels on SMR 476, leaving only the pilot channel running. In that case, the carrier will show up on a spectrum analyzer, but mobiles will not be able to attach to it. AJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmark27 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 The PRL on the HTC Evo is now 55016 I got it the other day, but couldn't remember if that is what it was before I updated. I just did a PRL update on my Galaxy S4 and now have the 55016 PRL up from 55015 in Madison, WI. Once I updated, I got a blip of 1x800SMR (as chimed by SignalCheck Pro) but then 800SMR went away and haven't had it since. I didn't see much for this phone or PRL on that gdoc in OP. I've got a lot of tower work around me but nothing active in my immediate area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kckid Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I have not seen 1x800 on signal check for about a week in KC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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