Network Vision/LTE - New York City Market

[wispiANt]

A few more confirmed converted sites:

• Sprint eNB 75164 (40.830909700713164,-73.91274396177037) --> T-Mobile eNB 894632
• Sprint eNB 6546 (40.82873871854494,-73.90084489740744) --> T-Mobile eNB 895003/895005/895006 (this is already on the map)
• Sprint eNB ?? (40.82579879329904,-73.87880804296192) --> T-Mobile eNB 894999
• Sprint eNB 899824 (40.82776698245422,-73.84969023526706) --> T-Mobile eNB 894906

And some guesses:

• Sprint eNB 843127 (40.8150492953508,-73.93011322948612) --> T-Mobile eNB 880536
• Sprint eNB 79912 (40.86354284127182,-73.92347240008023) --> T-Mobile eNB 875989
• Sprint eNB 6191 (40.71334211473999,-73.85695992811125) --> T-Mobile eNB 880065
• Sprint eNB 6189 (40.711822483661706,-73.83526556454387) --> T-Mobile eNB 877995

[wispiANt]

On 4/17/2022 at 1:36 PM, thisischuck01 said:

I can never remember the model, but this is OLD Nokia mmWave gear. Both AT&T and T-Mobile have deployed this model, AT&T in NYC and T-Mobile in Miami.

Finally remembered the model designation, this is a Nokia AEUA. 

[T-MoblieUser207]

I have added all mentions of Sprint keep sites, plus I have a few others added/modified:

Sprint eNB 5882 has been converted to T-Mobile eNB 894636.

Compared to Google streetview, Sprint eNB 6854 is wiped clean off that rooftop.

Sprint eNB 5782, a keep site, is no longer under the "unknown location" tag. I would guess Sprint eNB 6877 is also not unknown, its the B25/26 eNB for the same location as eNB 9453, but I'm not sure.

I think Sprint eNB 6853 is converted, as T-Mobile eNB 894799 is new and everything around already has a B12 eNB, but I'll wait until I learn more.

In the subway system, I can't find a recent screenshot (too many to be honest), but the stations with T-Mobile B2 widened to 20 MHz also have Sprint equipment broadcasting the keep PLMN when I locked to B26.

South Brooklyn has been bumped from 40 MHz to 60 MHz n41 (40+20), I would assume the same for the Bronx/upper Manhattan. I no longer map with the Sprint SIM, so I don't know what has changed for B41, last time it was 15+10. Screenshot from a relatives' S21.


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AT&T has two other towers with C-band equipment up, 110417 and 110154.

I also spotted the new 5G small cell, corner of Caton Avenue and East 16th Street. Verizon wasting little time.

Edited April 22, 2022 by T-MoblieUser207
Edit 1: Missed a new page started. Adjusted text to compensate Edit 2: adjusted it back to original, as it's back to being correct

[Paynefanbro]

Nearly 600Mbps in Coney Island tonight. Looks like T-Mobile isn't letting spectrum squatters rain on their parade lol. Phone was reporting 40MHz and 1 carrier but it could've been stale data.

[T-MoblieUser207]

A few more updates for the map:

Estimated to Converted (T-Mobile eNBs):
895056 (40.85217, -73.91657)
894570 (40.86626, -73.86809)
894624 (40.87344, -73.87937)
895014 (40.86617, -73.92761)

New estimated (T-Mobile eNBs):
880569 (40.77172, -73.90851)
880561 (40.73782, -73.88496)
875531 (40.73128, -73.86656)
895059 (40.67629, -73.86435)

New Converted:
Sprint eNB 9266 -> T-Mobile eNB 889771 (40.85846, -73.88462)

Removed:
T-Mobile eNB 889940. Small cell oDAS eNB in LIC

In total, 106 Sprint keep sites are on the map now, broken down as follows:
Converted: 45
Planned: 43
Estimated: 14
Location unknown: 4

There is another Sprint site in Bed-Stuy that is a keep site, Sprint eNB 6708. However, neither the 310-120 or 312-250 maps are helpful for finding it, so I haven't placed it on the map.

The gig+ section has been stuck at 12 sites for ages now, I think its time to make some changes for that soon 😂

[wispiANt]

10 hours ago, T-MoblieUser207 said:

There is another Sprint site in Bed-Stuy that is a keep site, Sprint eNB 6708. However, neither the 310-120 or 312-250 maps are helpful for finding it, so I haven't placed it on the map.

Looks to be a part of the 7133/7134/7135 cluster, which I've located (40.70141059365565,-73.95256124180243)!

[Paynefanbro]

Also I'm pretty sure that eNB 6858 that's marked as "Planned, location unknown" on the map is located here: 40.66112542160009, -73.87490219960173

I was planning on visiting a lot of the estimated keep and planned sites to confirm locations and take photos of conversions but the parking spot I got is too good so I probably won't move my car until next weekend 😭

[T-MoblieUser207]

1 hour ago, thisischuck01 said:

Looks to be a part of the 7133/7134/7135 cluster, which I've located (40.70141059365565,-73.95256124180243)!

Wow, Added! The RSRP from where I added it to the 312-250 map made it seem closer, but that is crazy good range!

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Also I'm pretty sure that eNB 6858 that's marked as "Planned, location unknown" on the map is located here: 40.66112542160009, -73.87490219960173

Adjusted accordingly!

Edited April 24, 2022 by T-MoblieUser207

[wispiANt]

A couple more confirmed conversions:

New:

• Sprint eNB ?? (40.84778722663444,-73.90112347661943) --> T-Mobile eNB 879602

Existing (confirmed via DOB permit):

• Sprint eNB ?? (40.771670921303496,-73.90858392917544) --> T-Mobile eNB 880569

[wispiANt]

And one more:

Sprint eNB 9015 (40.611676310378726,-73.95661853395423) --> T-Mobile eNB 895054

[Burgher]

How do I access maps? Thanks

[T-MoblieUser207]

On 4/27/2022 at 6:05 PM, thisischuck01 said:

A couple more confirmed conversions:

New:

• Sprint eNB ?? (40.84778722663444,-73.90112347661943) --> T-Mobile eNB 879602

Existing (confirmed via DOB permit):

• Sprint eNB ?? (40.771670921303496,-73.90858392917544) --> T-Mobile eNB 880569

20 hours ago, thisischuck01 said:

And one more:

Sprint eNB 9015 (40.611676310378726,-73.95661853395423) --> T-Mobile eNB 895054

Added!
 

 

1 hour ago, Burgher said:

How do I access maps? Thanks

I would assume you are talking about the map for the planned keep/converted Sprint sites, it can be found here: https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=18sy-e8DozwMNlLwcxIbDJ8IxE2U0iotI

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There is a post on the AT&T subreddit about C-band sites, I commented on it with the sites everyone has found in this thread, and a new one I recently spotted: eNB 114239.

[Paynefanbro]

I was able to confirm 3 Sprint conversions today.

1. T-Mobile eNB 875391 | Location: (40.620949331537865, -74.00709840980129
   
   
    

2. Sprint eNB 5937 / T-Mobile eNB 895059 | Location: (40.67624628326316, -73.86434256122145)
   
   
    

3. Sprint eNB 74311 / T-Mobile eNB 875607 | Location: (40.69491239962611, -73.91178557843641) 
   
   

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Bonus AT&T C-band site in Crown Heights (eNB 114239):

[AirlineFlyer]

Found another one of those weird non-confirming oDAS nodes with mmWave. This one is in Brighton Beach, in Brighton Beach Ave at Brighton 6th St.

 

 

 

[Paynefanbro]

Spotted 256QAM upload on T-Mobile in the wild for the first time. It gave me my fastest upload speeds on T-Mobile yet, granted it's midnight but still shows what the network is capable of. According to Field Test Mode, this was two NR carriers, 4x4MIMO and 256QAM on both download and upload at work. Because my phone reported 80MHz of NR even after cycling airplane mode, I'm guessing it's n41 + n71 instead of 2CC n41. 

If anyone wants to do their own testing this was eNB 42935 in Crown Heights.

[Paynefanbro]

2 hours ago, AirlineFlyer said:

Found another one of those weird non-confirming oDAS nodes with mmWave. This one is in Brighton Beach, in Brighton Beach Ave at Brighton 6th St.

Seems like the franchisees are flying through the wooden pole upgrades since they don't require sheathing the antennas. It also seems like they deploying them super high for max coverage.

The newer small cells on metal poles are definitely fewer and farther between.

[Paynefanbro]

In the past week or so I've been noticing that my phone has started reporting two NR carriers while showing 80MHz n41 and NSA. FieldTestMode on the iPhone can be weird but there is some method to its madness.

When two NR carriers are aggregated in the same band FieldTestMode will show the bandwidth as the total of all aggregated carriers, however if two carriers from different bands are being aggregated it'll only show the bandwidth of the PCC. For example, on mmWave here it'll show 100MHz n261 while showing 2 NR carriers.

So because my phone is reporting 80MHz n41 with 2 carriers and NSA, what that's telling me is that T-Mobile is aggregating Band 2+66+n41+n71. It's too bad T-Mobile hasn't increased backhaul to take advantage of that amount of spectrum.

Edit: Can confirm it's running on my home site as well. I'm now seeing NSA n71+n41 carrier aggregation inside my home. I can get 256QAM uploads as long as I have line of sight to the tower. If there’s anything blocking the way, it drops. 

[dkyeager]

1 hour ago, Paynefanbro said:

So because my phone is reporting 80MHz n41 with 2 carriers and NSA, what that's telling me is that T-Mobile is aggregating Band 2+66+n41+n71. It's too bad T-Mobile hasn't increased backhaul to take advantage of that amount of spectrum.

Your test showed 5:30pm, prime time.  How does it differ at 4:30am or what ever time has the fewest users? (NYC never sleeps goes a very old song).

[Paynefanbro]

9 hours ago, dkyeager said:

Your test showed 5:30pm, prime time.  How does it differ at 4:30am or what ever time has the fewest users? (NYC never sleeps goes a very old song).

I'm usually asleep by then lol. I never really got the chance to test that late at night. I'm certain that I can probably get to the mid-700's at that time but my area is super T-Mobile heavy so I don't think I can get much faster than that. Interestingly though my speeds are faster at 8 in the morning than they are at midnight.

[wispiANt]

1700 Amsterdam.

[clbowens]

17 minutes ago, thisischuck01 said:

1700 Amsterdam.

What are we looking at here?

[wispiANt]

Just now, clbowens said:

What are we looking at here?

Sprint -> Dish conversion. And I believe the first Dish deployment anyone has spotted in the city?

[Paynefanbro]

Sprint eNB 6438 is broadcasting the keep PLMN. Not NYC but the site is part of ex-Sprint's NYC market.

Location: 41.108970886700284, -73.80691442283441

At this rate T-Mobile looks is probably going to match, if not surpass Verizon's macro density in a decent portion of NYC's suburbs and exurbs. 

[T-MoblieUser207]

21 hours ago, Paynefanbro said:

Sprint eNB 6438 is broadcasting the keep PLMN. Not NYC but the site is part of ex-Sprint's NYC market.

Location: 41.108970886700284, -73.80691442283441

Added! I also have 2 of my own that I added today:
Converted: Sprint eNB 253737 -> T-Mobile eNB 894563
Planned, location unknown: Sprint eNB 900047. I was able to pull this screenshot when my device found it. I may need to pull out the Sprint SIM from the drawer for a check of B41 on Sprint, as if a macro is using the 10 MHz that small cells have(had?), I wonder what are the small cells that T-Mobile are keeping using.

22 hours ago, thisischuck01 said:

Sprint -> Dish conversion. And I believe the first Dish deployment anyone has spotted in the city?

I haven't spotted any yet, so it probably is! Sprint eNB 6798 still has its panels and rack up, even though it has been decom'd for months, so I expect Dish to move in on it, unlike other Sprint sites that have been wiped clean.

Staten Island

I did a trip on Monday through the borough, and n41 experience is much better than last year August. South of the mall is still a mostly LTE experience with pockets of NR, but north of the mall is mostly on n41 now. n41 is still 40 Mhz, I think its 40+20 like in South Brooklyn but I don't know. B41 is still 2680, but like the rest of the city, some towers get a boost to 40 MHz of B41 (2660+2680).
Also found this unique tower in Huguenot, eNB 41639. Funny enough, I think I could have approached the gig cap with it, but the speedtests weren't helpful, as it would go up to 300, dip mid test, then peak around 550 when the test ends.

[T-MoblieUser207]

Well there is a explanation for Sprint macros moving to the top of the band now, the NR block will be moved south and expanded from 80 to 100: