Conan Kudo Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Sprint confirms it’s selling all 19 WCS spectrum licenses to AT&T for an undisclosed price. $S— Walter Piecyk (@WaltBTIG) May 13, 2014 Now all your WCS are belong to AT&T... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefbal99 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Wish they had gotten PCS spectrum in return, but cash is cash 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 AT&T might use the WCS spectrum licences for in-flight Wi-Fi. http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/att-looking-buy-all-sprints-23-ghz-wcs-spectrum-licenses-possibly-flight-wi/2014-05-13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubbiefan82 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I hope they can close the deal soon, it just that much more that counts against att for the 600 auction. I am not surprised sprint is getting rid of it, not worth it when you have nationwide band 41 now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubbiefan82 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 This was from 2012-UBS analyst John Hodulik wrote in a research note, arguing that Sprint might fetch around $130 million if it were to sell its WCS spectrum. Read more: Analysis: AT&T's WCS spectrum shopping spree won't catch it up to Verizon - FierceWireless http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/analysis-atts-wcs-spectrum-shopping-spree-wont-catch-it-verizon/2012-08-03#ixzz31dTbbSIYSubscribe at FierceWireless 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destroyallcubes Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 At&t should be forced to divest some PCS to sprint in these locations where they have most of the spectrum. If that happened several markets would have 3 5x5 MHz bands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWMaloney Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 At&t should be forced to divest some PCS to sprint in these locations where they have most of the spectrum. If that happened several markets would have 3 5x5 MHz bands AT&T doesn't have extra PCS to divest in all of those locations. Where I live, for instance, AT&T doesn't own any AWS, so they just finished deploying LTE on their last available PCS spectrum for capacity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiWavelength Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 At&t should be forced to divest some PCS to sprint in these locations where they have most of the spectrum. If that happened several markets would have 3 5x5 MHz bands AT&T doesn't have extra PCS to divest in all of those locations. Where I live, for instance, AT&T doesn't own any AWS, so they just finished deploying LTE on their last available PCS spectrum for capacity. Corresponding locations are irrelevant. Sprint could divest WCS spectrum to AT&T in Kalamazoo, receive in return PCS spectrum in Timbuktu. So, excess PCS spectrum availability in the affected WCS markets is a non factor. Besides, this is a modest transaction -- if the $130 million estimate is roughly accurate. Heck, Dan spends that much on aftershave. But it will not get you much PCS spectrum. AJ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsnake49 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 (edited) I hope they do something with their 900MHz SMR spectrum. They need to rationalize their spectrum holdings. And yes I know about the 3MHz LTE slice planned for that spectrum. The best that Sprint can do is sell it to a utility consortium to be used for smart grid applications. Edited May 13, 2014 by bigsnake49 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digiblur Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Wish they had gotten PCS spectrum in return, but cash is cash They use all of theirs here. Jammed pack on cellular, PCS, 700, and a lot of AWS in high capacity areas. Never understood why Sprint has channels open to use but EVDO was at 1x speeds. All with an RRU being half utilized Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdk Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 They use all of theirs here. Jammed pack on cellular, PCS, 700, and a lot of AWS in high capacity areas. Never understood why Sprint has channels open to use but EVDO was at 1x speeds. All with an RRU being half utilized Ericsson just tells Sprint that everything is fine... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destroyallcubes Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Corresponding locations are irrelevant. Sprint could divest WCS spectrum to AT&T in Kalamazoo, receive in return PCS spectrum in Timbuktu. So, excess PCS spectrum availability in the affected WCS markets is a non factor. Besides, this is a modest transaction -- if the $130 million estimate is roughly accurate. Heck, Dan spends that much on aftershave. But it will not get you much PCS spectrum. AJ AT&T doesn't have extra PCS to divest in all of those locations. Where I live, for instance, AT&T doesn't own any AWS, so they just finished deploying LTE on their last available PCS spectrum for capacity.Well I know Houston/NOLA markets could really use it. But I believe ATT has plenty PCS in Houston to divest,maybe not so much in NOLA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmeraldReporter Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 How much spectrum was it? How many Mhz were shaved off our total count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centermedic Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 I wonder if this was part of a back door deal to not protest Sprint buying T-mo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascertion Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 I didn't even know Sprint had WCS spectrum. I knew they had a small amount in the 900mhz range but it's very little and not really worth anything to Sprint. Sent from my LG-LS980 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duddys31 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 So is sprint planning on using the 900mhz for lte for sprint users? And is this spectrum nationwide also and any timetable of when it will be implemented? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWMaloney Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 How much spectrum was it? How many Mhz were shaved off our total count? In my area it was 10x10, giving them a total of 15x15, but I believe the LTE band is 10x10 due to potential interference with Sirius-XM. So is sprint planning on using the 900mhz for lte for sprint users? And is this spectrum nationwide also and any timetable of when it will be implemented? 900 MHz LTE is for machine-to-machine communication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destroyallcubes Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 How much spectrum was it? How many Mhz were shaved off our total count?iirc it was 10mhz here in East Texas Edit: looked it up, they had 20 MHz here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destroyallcubes Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 I didn't even know Sprint had WCS spectrum. I knew they had a small amount in the 900mhz range but it's very little and not really worth anything to Sprint. Sent from my LG-LS980 Yeah I actually was asking about it a few months ago http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/5649-does-sprint-plan-on-selling-its-wcs-spectrum-holdings/page-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhammett Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 I hope they do something with their 900MHz SMR spectrum. They need to rationalize their spectrum holdings. And yes I know about the 3MHz LTE slice planned for that spectrum. The best that Sprint can do is sell it to a utility consortium to be used for smart grid applications. More info on this 900 SMR? How much? How wide? Does anyone else have it? Sprint confirms it’s selling all 19 WCS spectrum licenses to AT&T for an undisclosed price. $S — Walter Piecyk (@WaltBTIG) May 13, 2014 Now all your WCS are belong to AT&T... http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/att-looking-buy-all-sprints-23-ghz-wcs-spectrum-licenses-possibly-flight-wi/2014-05-13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWMaloney Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 More info on this 900 SMR? How much? How wide? Does anyone else have it? http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/att-looking-buy-all-sprints-23-ghz-wcs-spectrum-licenses-possibly-flight-wi/2014-05-13 Their current holdings are narrowband and look like piano keys against the whole block. AJ has a nice graph of it somewhere. They will have to complete rebanding just like with 800 MHz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsnake49 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Sprint has 2.5MHz-3MHz of interleaved spectrum in the 900Mhz SMR band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsnake49 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Here's a good article on urgentcomm.com: http://urgentcomm.com/fcc/wireless-trade-organizations-seek-transform-900-mhz-lmr-spectrum-lte-use?page=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 The 900MHz holdings are virtually unusable beyond narrowband operations. The expense to reband and get device support for just one or two CDMA channels is just not worth it. Robert via Samsung Note 8.0 using Tapatalk Pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsnake49 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 The 900MHz holdings are virtually unusable beyond narrowband operations. The expense to reband and get device support for just one or two CDMA channels is just not worth it. Robert via Samsung Note 8.0 using Tapatalk Pro There just are not that many people to reband and you don't have to deal with PS. It will be a breeze compared with the 800MHz rebanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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