Jump to content

Calvin200

Recommended Posts

The only thing is U.S. Cellular's LTE tends to have high pings like 140ms at times. Not as bad as MetroPCS but still pretty bad. Can Sprint take U.S. Cellular cell sites and backhaul and re-purpose them for PCS LTE? In Pitt County, NC Sprint has a native footprint but U.S. Cellular has a stronger footprint and LTE across nearly the entire rural area.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The only thing is U.S. Cellular's LTE tends to have high pings like 140ms at times. Not as bad as MetroPCS but still pretty bad. Can Sprint take U.S. Cellular cell sites and backhaul and re-purpose them for PCS LTE? In Pitt County, NC Sprint has a native footprint but U.S. Cellular has a stronger footprint and LTE across nearly the entire rural area.

Why do that when they can use the existing 700 coverage?

 

Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Why do that when they can use the existing 700 coverage?

 

Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2

 

Because Sprint doesn't have any 700Mhz compatible devices. SMR is good enough until the 600Mhz auction. They'd do better just selling that off.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Because Sprint doesn't have any 700Mhz compatible devices. SMR is good enough until the 600Mhz auction. They'd do better just selling that off.

They have already committed to adding band 12 (700 mHz A-C) to future devices.

 

Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

i cant speak for other markets but this would be amazing, at least coverage wise up here in northern new england where US Cellular has a pretty decent network for rural areas and sprint...not so much.

 

is it a fairly straight forward migration of the US cellular network over to Sprint if this were to happen?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Well since Leap is being bought up by AT&T, Sprint mind as well grab up US Cellular and improve the spectrum portfolios in the Mid-west and east.  I would much rather have had Sprint made a bid for Leap though.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Well since Leap is being bought up by AT&T, Sprint mind as well grab up US Cellular and improve the spectrum portfolios in the Mid-west and east.  I would much rather have had Sprint made a bid for Leap though.

Why? US Cellular fits in perfectly with their spectrum while Leap's primary asset was AWS. Also, until I see something more definitive this is just a silly rumor.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

US cell has been rumored to be selling off parts of California to t-mobile iirc. As far as where I am it will never happen. In Wisconsin us cell is right on par with Verizon where as with the Chicago region there weren't doing so hot. So while it is possible that they might buy another portion of it there is no way the whole company itself will go down right now. In a few years maybe but not now.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

For what it's worth, I'll regale you with a tale of extreme banal minutiae from 2006: my then girlfriend/now wife and I were driving through Wyoming, about 40 miles or so away from Cheyenne, and ended up getting stuck in a snowstorm when a FedEx truck rolled off a hill.

 

I had USC at the time, my wife had Sprint. She had no service up in the mountains; I had 2 bars and could make/receive calls and send text messages.

 

Point being, I love USC's coverage, and would welcome a buyout.

 

(Also: I propose we change the thread title to "US Cellular bye buy," because puns are awesome.)

  • Like 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I had USC at the time, my wife had Sprint. She had no service up in the mountains; I had 2 bars and could make/receive calls and send text messages.

 

I practically guarantee that was a phone RF or setting issue, not a USCC benefit.  USCC has no native coverage in Wyoming, and Sprint has very little.  But Sprint at the time had roaming agreements with both VZW and Alltel.

 

AJ

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I practically guarantee that was a phone RF or setting issue, not a USCC benefit.  USCC has no native coverage in Wyoming, and Sprint has very little.  But Sprint at the time had roaming agreements with both VZW and Alltel.

 

AJ

That makes sense. At the time, I was just a "I'm shopping the cheapest plans in my area" guy. Now, thanks the forum, I know better. :)
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I do not support any USCC buyout.  I would rather see USCC remain independent.  And USCC is such a regionalized operator that acquiring it would do relatively little to help Sprint nationally.  Too little, too late.  Alltel/WWC was the rural prize that would have helped Sprint and its perception nationally, but as we know, that ship sailed several years ago.

 

Now, that said, USCC is effectively shifting gears in its LTE rollout from Lower 700 MHz to Cellular 850 MHz.  That will allow USCC to offer LTE capable iPhone models.  Additionally, if the LG G2 is any indication, Sprint band 26 LTE 800 devices will cover the entire superset band, including Cellular 850 MHz.  So, they would be compatible with USCC's band 5 LTE 850 deployment.

 

AJ

Link to comment
Share on other sites

(Also: I propose we change the thread title to "US Cellular bye buy," because puns are awesome.)

 

 

AJ

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I find this highly unlikely for various reasons

 

  • $250 million in network investments for gear from Alcatel-Lucent & Nortel
  • $500 million in internal billing system upgrades (which caused a shitstorm)
  • Extremely healthy relationship with Sprint including preferred relationship & other goodies
  • Carlson family owns 80+% of the company and the only way for a buyout is if the Carlson wants out or receives an offer that they cannot refuse. 

I find it more likely that USCC & Sprint goes into a partnership and opens up LTE / EVDO roaming over their Cellular 850 & PCS in exchange for roaming on sprint SMR 800 & PCS LTE.

 

Side note - Just a FYI, USCC hardly uses any fiber or microwave backhaul. The vast majority of their sites utilizes bonded T1 or T3 copper lines due to their rural nature and many of them are bogging down due to smart phone use. This is the same type of backhaul that Sprint rejected from Centurylink down in NM and had to reopen bids for new backhaul that met NV requirements. 

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

 Didn't even know. Thanks for the information :D

 

We wrote the most detailed breakdown of the Sprint-USCC spectrum transaction last fall.  But maybe you were not here yet, lol.

 

http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-334-updated-sprint-uscc-spectrum-deal-sprint-gets-20-mhz-broader-in-the-city-of-broad-shoulders/

 

AJ

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

It would be nice. My parents live in western Iowa and US Cellular and Verizon are the only options. They live in a huge coverage hole that used to be blanketed by Nextel.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I do not support any USCC buyout. I would rather see USCC remain independent. And USCC is such a regionalized operator that acquiring it would do relatively little to help Sprint nationally. Too little, too late. Alltel/WWC was the rural prize that would have helped Sprint and its perception nationally, but as we know, that ship sailed several years ago.

 

Now, that said, USCC is effectively shifting gears in its LTE rollout from Lower 700 MHz to Cellular 850 MHz. That will allow USCC to offer LTE capable iPhone models. Additionally, if the LG G2 is any indication, Sprint band 26 LTE 800 devices will cover the entire superset band, including Cellular 850 MHz. So, they would be compatible with USCC's band 5 LTE 850 deployment.

 

AJ

What's their 850 spectrum config gonna be?
Link to comment
Share on other sites

They have already committed to adding band 12 (700 mHz A-C) to future devices.

 

Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2

Source please. Unless sprint is gonna buy out the rest of A block, this doesn't pass the smell test.
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • large.unreadcontent.png.6ef00db54e758d06

  • gallery_1_23_9202.png

  • Similar Content

  • Posts

    • T-Mobile wins more 5G spectrum over AT&T's objections So now it's official?
    • Just got back from Puerto Rico. I spent a lot of time going around the San Juan metro area, predominantly in Viejo San Juan, Santurce, Isla Verde, and a short stop in University Gardens.  T-Mobile's network still performs as well today as it did when I last tested and in my opinion is the best on the island. n41 is still at 100MHz in most areas though I did record a few areas with only 80MHz. Yesterday the FCC announced that they're finally granting T-Mobile their Auction 108 winnings so we'll probably finally see that increase. They also have 15MHz of n25 and 15MHz of n25 and 15MHz n71. The fastest speed I recorded while there was 922 down and 120 up, presumably aggregating n41+n25 and potentially n71 as well but I wasn't able to confirm that. A couple of things I noticed about their network are that their is a ton of split-sector n25 deployed in San Juan, much like in the U.S. I even noticed some n41 sites that had 4 or more sectors. The weirdest being the site on top of SJU Airport where they have 6 n41 sectors each broadcasting 80MHz of n41. AT&T SIMs roam on LIberty's network but they still treat it as the home network. In my opinion they're the second best network in Puerto Rico. Liberty is still using the AT&T MCC-MNC code and is pretty much coasting on AT&T's network upgrades. They have 10MHz n5 virtually everywhere but I never saw my phone connect to any other 5G bands. Their saving grace was just how much spectrum they have to aggregate across midband and lowband. I'd see combos like 10MHz n5 + 20MHz B2 + 10MHz B66 + 10MHz Band 30 + 5MHz Band 2 and get upwards of 200Mbps. Coverage was slightly worse than T-Mobile in my experience, even indoors which is a surprise given T-Mobile usually struggles a bit indoors due to their macro density. Verizon is roaming on Claro in Puerto Rico just as they have been for years. No idea if there is 5G roaming because I was connected to LTE the entire time. Toggling 5G didn't do anything and both pings and speeds weren't great. Speeds were in the 20-40Mbps range consistently and pings over 200ms. For comparison T-Mobile's pings are in the teens and Liberty pings are in the 40's even when roaming using an AT&T SIM. Claro's network is ok in my experience with nothing really notable about it.  — — — — — Here are some pics of sites that I took:
    • WTB instructed to process all 2.5GHz licenses across the USA. They are only giving up some spectrum in certain markets of Hawaii.
    • Is this just for licenses in Hawaii?
    • Yeah, it basically directs the bureau to proceed with granting the applications in the normal course.  It's no longer being held by the AT&T objection. - Trip
  • Recently Browsing

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...