Poopscoop2323 Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 So let me get this straight... Sprint still hasn't finished even one city completely 100% since starting last summer?? So I'm assuming that "largely completed by the end of 2013" means that it will be maybe 50% complete in most markets? #OHCOMEON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr8nuguy Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 umm, thats wrong... LOL i know for a fact there are a few cities 100% done. not markets, but cities .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 So let me get this straight... Sprint still hasn't finished even one city completely 100% since starting last summer?? So I'm assuming that "largely completed by the end of 2013" means that it will be maybe 50% complete in most markets? #OHCOMEON Did you know that neither Verizon, nor AT&T, nor T-Mobile have a market with 100% conversion to LTE yet? Oh, come on!!! You aren't understanding the metrics here. Robert via Nexus 7 with Tapatalk HD 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moropo Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 I still think the old wimax system, where you had a voice bar AND an additional 4G bar was the best thing ever, ^this a hundred times Sent from my SPH-L900 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansltx Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 I'll be "running the numbers" for a Running List update sometime later today. I don't think I'll see a 100% complete market, but there are some markets that are ridiculously close. Which, remember, means LTE on EVERY site. Neither AT&T nor Verizon are doing that with their 700MHz network. Nor is T-Mobile, if you look at the size of a "market" in Sprint terms (including rural areas as well as urban). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poopscoop2323 Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Did you know that neither Verizon, nor AT&T, nor T-Mobile have a market with 100% conversion to LTE yet? Oh, come on!!! You aren't understanding the metrics here. Robert via Nexus 7 with Tapatalk HD Thanks for the info. Did not know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmattox79 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Robert, Just wondering how often the running list gets a total update, is there a set schedule or just whenever sprint makes enough progress to note. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Robert, Just wondering how often the running list gets a total update, is there a set schedule or just whenever sprint makes enough progress to note. We try to do it 2-3x per month. Robert via Nexus 7 with Tapatalk HD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansltx Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Thanks for the info. Did not know. As an example, T-Mobile launches markets for LTE when 70% of sites are upgraded (and they're upgraded at the same time that PCS HSPA+ radios are added). Their network is closest to Sprint's in that, nationwide, they have PCS-ish spacing and are doing a network overhaul on every site (in urban areas). But, again, the number is 70%, not 100%. And there's a distinct difference in coverage when every third site doesn't have a tech enabled. Oh, and for refarmed PCS to launch in a market, the threshold was even lower, from what I understand. On an unrelated side note, T-Mobile shares a few sites with Clearwire around here. Hence "PCS-ish" spacing rather than straight-up PCS spacing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefbal99 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 As an example, T-Mobile launches markets for LTE when 70% of sites are upgraded (and they're upgraded at the same time that PCS HSPA+ radios are added). Their network is closest to Sprint's in that, nationwide, they have PCS-ish spacing and are doing a network overhaul on every site (in urban areas). But, again, the number is 70%, not 100%. And there's a distinct difference in coverage when every third site doesn't have a tech enabled. Oh, and for refarmed PCS to launch in a market, the threshold was even lower, from what I understand. On an unrelated side note, T-Mobile shares a few sites with Clearwire around here. Hence "PCS-ish" spacing rather than straight-up PCS spacing. Also, T-Mobile already has enhanced backhaul (i.e. Fiber or AAV) for their HSPA+ AWS network, they don't need to wait for that to be installed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericdabbs Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I like the new format of the NV Running list thread especially the extra entry about percentage of LTE sites accepted out of the percentage of NV sites accepted. Hopefully the remaining 2nd round markets get complete. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommym65 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I like the new format of the NV Running list thread especially the extra entry about percentage of LTE sites accepted out of the percentage of NV sites accepted. Hopefully the remaining 2nd round markets get complete. I also like the new format, but with one reservation: The old format offered an instant link (via "Sites Complete") to the NV Sites Complete map. Robert, could you add that link within the new format? Thanks for considering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggrey Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I'll be "running the numbers" for a Running List update sometime later today. I don't think I'll see a 100% complete market, but there are some markets that are ridiculously close. Which, remember, means LTE on EVERY site. Neither AT&T nor Verizon are doing that with their 700MHz network. Nor is T-Mobile, if you look at the size of a "market" in Sprint terms (including rural areas as well as urban). Is Sprint planning to put LTE on every site? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilotimz Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Is Sprint planning to put LTE on every site? Yes except for a hundred or so sites where they can't negotiate backhaul or other things for a reasonable price. They'll probably relocate these sites to somewhere more favorable or it'll just stay as is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I also like the new format, but with one reservation: The old format offered an instant link (via "Sites Complete") to the NV Sites Complete map. Robert, could you add that link within the new format? Thanks for considering. I will add this to my To Do List. I didn't think anyone used that feature. Sorry that I removed it. Robert via Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4 Beta 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaixor Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I'm surprised they haven't announced the sf bay having LTE yet, I'm getting LTE over 70% of the time traveling around the bay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersanborn Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I will add this to my To Do List. I didn't think anyone used that feature. Sorry that I removed it. Robert via Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4 Beta Thanks as always for your efforts! Off topic: How do you like Tapatalk 4? I kind of love it, personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jroepcke51 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I'm surprised they haven't announced the sf bay having LTE yet, I'm getting LTE over 70% of the time traveling around the bay Remember that a "Launch" really is nothing substantial here. I do agree it helps with reputation as well as show competition with the big 2. I just don't hold much clout to launches. We already know that acceptances are the key 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesinclair Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Interesting new format. I guess due to character limits? The lack of edit marks on the old posts had me super confused. Absolutely love that LTE completion ahs been given its own line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElTwo Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Great job on the new format! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turboxsloth Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 For Vt/NH/ME what does gmo complete/full build mean??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turboxsloth Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 (edited) What's does gmo complete/full builds beginning mean for VT/NH/ME. Also you have Rochester labeled as a market which state is that from. It's at 3% nv completion to help u find it??? Edited May 29, 2013 by Turboxsloth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 What's does gmo complete/full builds beginning mean for VT/NH/ME. Also you have Rochester labeled as a market which state is that from. It's at 3% nv completion to help u find it??? It means that GMO sites are completing in the market and full build sites are beginning. http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-340-sprint-deploys-special-ground-mount-option-network-vision-sites-in-some-low-capacity-and-high-engineering-locations/ The Sprint Rochester market is in Western New York. All other Rochesters are in other markets. Robert via Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4 Beta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turboxsloth Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 It means that GMO sites are completing in the market and full build sites are beginning. http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-340-sprint-deploys-special-ground-mount-option-network-vision-sites-in-some-low-capacity-and-high-engineering-locations/ The Sprint Rochester market is in Western New York. All other Rochesters are in other markets. Robert via Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4 Beta Thank you so does the full build mean new back haul and panels. Sorry I'm just wondering and thanks for the reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jroepcke51 Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Thank you so does the full build mean new back haul and panels. Sorry I'm just wondering and thanks for the reply Yes. Full build means new cabinets, panels/antennas and backhaul. This is a complete overhaul of the cell site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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