T-Mobile LTE & Network Discussion

[BenChase7]

Interesting that TMO is STILL herding people onto non-LTE phones.

 

https://www.metropcs.com/content/metro/en/desktop/metro/30-phone-plans.html?intl_camp=home|aspot-1|30-phone-plans-get-one

Maybe that's their way of keeping Root Metric scores up.  

[lou99/maximus1987]

Maybe that's their way of keeping Root Metric scores up.

Huh? Why would putting people on NON-lte phones keep score up?

 

 

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[BenChase7]

Huh? Why would putting people on NON-lte phones keep score up?

 

 

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Less congestion on the network by the masses. So when tech sites/blogs do their "tests," the network would potentially produce significantly higher data throughput than if everybody's mammas mamma was on the LTE network. 

[lou99/maximus1987]

Less congestion on the network by the masses. So when tech sites do their "tests," the network they would potentially produce significantly higher data throughput than if everybody's mammas mamma was on the LTE network.

Less people on Hspa means they'd refarm AWS Hspa to lte.

 

 

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[BenChase7]

Less people on Hspa means they'd refarm AWS Hspa to lte.

 

 

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Yes, in the long term.  It was mostly sarcasm, hence the  .  Don't take it too personally/seriously.

[Conan Kudo]

I would reckon reuse factor of 7, which leaves an extra channel for a random 4 sector site?

 

Would be my best guess.

3/4/6 sector sites are common in Latin America, Europe, and Asia, which is where the higher minimum carriers are needed. I believe here in the U.S., most are 3 sector only, so you'd just chop off one GSM carrier (21 instead of 22).

[lou99/maximus1987]

3/4/6 sector sites are common in Latin America, Europe, and Asia, which is where the higher minimum carriers are needed. I believe here in the U.S., most are 3 sector only, so you'd just chop off one GSM carrier (21 instead of 22).

Since more sectors increases capacity, why don't we have more sectors here?

[lilotimz]

3/4/6 sector sites are common in Latin America, Europe, and Asia, which is where the higher minimum carriers are needed. I believe here in the U.S., most are 3 sector only, so you'd just chop off one GSM carrier (21 instead of 22).

Tmobile nsn uses 4 sectors iirc.

 

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[reedacus25]

Tmobile nsn uses 4 sectors iirc.

 

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Well that's a pretty broad stroke of the paintbrush.

 

Yes, T-Mobile has many, many 4 sector sites in its macro infrastructure, typically to provide certain capacity and coverage requirements where they can't feasibly use 2 macro sites but need that extra coverage and capacity.

 

This 4-sector deal has also caused all the false Band 12 reports from LTE discovery due to the seemingly mindless GCI scheme T-Mobile has decided to employ for the Band 12 overlay.

 

I also feel pretty confident that 4-sector Ericsson builds exist too. But not every site is 4-sector. Heck, not every site is even 3-sector in some rural builds.

[Deval]

T-Mobile's primary LTE band is B4 AWS, correct? And that's deployed in NYC in a 15x15 FDD configuration? 

[lou99/maximus1987]

T-Mobile's primary LTE band is B4 AWS, correct? And that's deployed in NYC in a 15x15 FDD configuration? 

Yes. And they also have 10fdd aws hspa 42 and 5dd pcs hspa

[lou99/maximus1987]

Price Guarantee: Pricing available while you remain a customer.  Unlimited high-speed data option pricing guaranteed for 2 years of activation. Excludes taxes, fees, & other (e.g., pay-per use) charges

 

https://b2b.t-mobile.com/landing/business-plans.html

 

I know it's the business site but Legere said basically the same thing at uncarrier 9.

[Conan Kudo]

T-Mobile's primary LTE band is B4 AWS, correct? And that's deployed in NYC in a 15x15 FDD configuration? 

Yes.

[lou99/maximus1987]

For business lines, the in-market roaming policy is same as the consumer one i.e. no roaming on ATT if a building has coverage issues.

 

Sooooo . . . the lines are cheap but you get what you pay for.

 

Test drives can be extended to 14 days.

[Deval]

Yes.

 

It's been interesting using T-Mo the last few days, seems like B4 is blanketed here, have yet to run across a dead zone.

[lou99/maximus1987]

It's been interesting using T-Mo the last few days, seems like B4 is blanketed here, have yet to run across a dead zone.

How about inside? TMO always has good outside coverage.

[Deval]

How about inside? TMO always has good outside coverage.

 

It depends on where I am. What's glaring the drop from LTE to nothing. I was walking through Grand Central and my phone was sitting pretty on Emergency Calls only while my Sprint phone had 3G. 

 

It all comes down to site placement, and power output.

[clbowens]

It depends on where I am. What's glaring the drop from LTE to nothing. I was walking through Grand Central and my phone was sitting pretty on Emergency Calls only while my Sprint phone had 3G. 

 

It all comes down to site placement, and power output.

What is Emergency Calls only?  Is that a network status specific to TMobile?

[lou99/maximus1987]

What is Emergency Calls only?  Is that a network status specific to TMobile?

It means you can't make phone calls except for 911 because tmo doesn't allow in market roaming on att if you have no signal; sprint allows roaming on vzw even if it's in market.

[Houston_Texas]

It means you can't make phone calls except for 911 because tmo doesn't allow in market roaming on att if you have no signal; sprint allows roaming on vzw even if it's in market.

That's a significant knock against T-Mobile imo.

 

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[travismheim]

What is Emergency Calls only? Is that a network status specific to TMobile?

Its not specific to T-Mobile. I get that on my nexus when I pull the Sim, or any old deactivated phone.

 

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[Conan Kudo]

It's been interesting using T-Mo the last few days, seems like B4 is blanketed here, have yet to run across a dead zone.

Personally, I've had a similarly good experience in Norwalk, Stamford, and Rochester. Even traveling between Norwalk and Rochester was quite smooth, as I had native access throughout nearly all of my trip up to Rochester and back down to Norwalk last week.

[lou99/maximus1987]

Personally, I've had a similarly good experience in Norwalk, Stamford, and Rochester. Even traveling between Norwalk and Rochester was quite smooth, as I had native access throughout nearly all of my trip up to Rochester and back down to Norwalk last week.

Experienced any gmo lte 1900 sites?

[Conan Kudo]

Experienced any gmo lte 1900 sites?

Quite a few between Norwalk and Rochester. They had surprisingly decent range, but capacity was lower than full-build sites.

[lou99/maximus1987]

That's a significant knock against T-Mobile imo.

 

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They're gaining customers, sprint is losing them.

Must not matter much or it occurs rarely.

 

 

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