nexgencpu Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Brad The Beast said: They need to get 5G on 100MHz so they're closer Verizons mmWave speed-wise. 300Mbps is what we see on LTE currently. They actually don't need to add more spectrum, it's more about backhaul at this point. 3xCA B41 with 4x4MIMO and 256QAM is considered gigabit class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad The Beast Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, nexgencpu said: They actually don't need to add more spectrum, it's more about backhaul at this point. 3xCA B41 with 4x4MIMO and 256QAM is considered gigabit class. Need to get better backhaul in these areas then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tengen31 Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 They actually don't need to add more spectrum, it's more about backhaul at this point. 3xCA B41 with 4x4MIMO and 256QAM is considered gigabit class.He is talking about 5G which can go faster than gigabitSent from my SM-G965U1 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrell352 Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Need to get better backhaul in these areas then.Sprint likely doesn't have the money to get 1-2gb backhaul yet. So they are competing on coverage and reliability. It should work. Most people are not running speed tests on there devices but they do notice 5G icon. If it's there more than any other carrier and still really fast Sprint will start finally winning customers.Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad The Beast Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Terrell352 said: Sprint likely doesn't have the money to get 1-2gb backhaul yet. So they are competing on coverage and reliability. It should work. Most people are not running speed tests on there devices but they do notice 5G icon. If it's there more than any other carrier and still really fast Sprint will start finally winning customers. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk I won't be satisfied until I get 1Tbps over 5G. /s 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg4icg Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 You guys failed to realize though, with Verizon's 5g, you have to be standing within 300 feet or less of a node to get anything, while you can drive around with Sprint's which has greater coverage. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrell352 Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 I won't be satisfied until I get 1Tbps over 5G. /s[emoji23][emoji23] 6G maybeSent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad The Beast Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 1 minute ago, kg4icg said: You guys failed to realize though, with Verizon's 5g, you have to be standing within 300 feet or less of a node to get anything, while you can drive around with Sprint's which has greater coverage. There is potential here though that Sprint needs to capitalize on. Coverage is one of those. The other would be speed. Then they could say "hey, our 5G isn't quite as fast as Verizons but: ours is more reliable, we've got coverage that good enough to the point where you can drive around and hang onto it, and the coverage is good enough and fast enough to provide you a wireless home internet solution". But of course the last thing requires major backhaul upgrades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg4icg Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Just now, Brad The Beast said: There is potential here though that Sprint needs to capitalize on. Coverage is one of those. The other would be speed. Then they could say "hey, our 5G isn't quite as fast as Verizons but: ours is more reliable, we've got coverage that good enough to the point where you can drive around and hang onto it, and the coverage is good enough and fast enough to provide you a wireless home internet solution". But of course the last thing requires major backhaul upgrades. That's where that HTC hub comes in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad The Beast Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, kg4icg said: That's where that HTC hub comes in Backhaul isn't fast enough to support home internet yet. They need to upgrade backhaul so we start seeing more comparable speeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrell352 Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 That's where that HTC hub comes inThe HTC hub would work if the site's had more backhaul. Once 5G is saturating the market it's going to be alot slower at current backhaul and settings. John did say that 5G upload was on the way in the coming weeks(usually translates to 3-6 months).Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paynefanbro Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 5 hours ago, Brad The Beast said: They need to get 5G on 100MHz so they're closer Verizons mmWave speed-wise. 300Mbps is what we see on LTE currently. Saw said that once DSS becomes available they'll be able to use 100MHz of spectrum for 5G and 60MHz for LTE simultaneously. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tengen31 Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Saw said that once DSS becomes available they'll be able to use 100MHz of spectrum for 5G and 60MHz for LTE simultaneously.What is DSS?Sent from my SM-G965U1 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paynefanbro Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Just now, Tengen31 said: What is DSS? Sent from my SM-G965U1 using Tapatalk Dynamic Spectrum Sharing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tengen31 Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Dynamic Spectrum SharingOh I have no clue what that meansSent from my SM-G965U1 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paynefanbro Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, Tengen31 said: Oh I have no clue what that means Sent from my SM-G965U1 using Tapatalk This should be helpful. https://www.fiercewireless.com/wireless/marek-s-take-dynamic-spectrum-sharing-may-change-5g-deployment-game 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tengen31 Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 This should be helpful. https://www.fiercewireless.com/wireless/marek-s-take-dynamic-spectrum-sharing-may-change-5g-deployment-gameI get it now. If TMO and Sprint have to give up spectrum to pass the merger that could make 5G deployment easierSent from my SM-G965U1 using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bretton88 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 So here is the mysterious Sprint B26 site in Williston, ND. I can only pick up on B26. So I suspect that's all that's broadcasting. It seems odd Sprint would just put up a 3x3 B26 site only.Sent from my SM-N960U1 using Tapatalk 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAvirani Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 46 minutes ago, bretton88 said: So here is the mysterious Sprint B26 site in Williston, ND. I can only pick up on B26. So I suspect that's all that's broadcasting. It seems odd Sprint would just put up a 3x3 B26 site only. Sent from my SM-N960U1 using Tapatalk It looks like it's 800 only. I only see a Samsung 800 RRU. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilotimz Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 It looks like it's 800 only. I only see a Samsung 800 RRU. Yep. Just a single C2A to a 2 port antenna. A super rare find! Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paynefanbro Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 More positive press about Sprint's 5G network. https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/3/18647432/sprint-5g-network-impressions-speed-tests-t-mobile-merger-verizon#comments 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSpark Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 16 minutes ago, Paynefanbro said: More positive press about Sprint's 5G network. https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/3/18647432/sprint-5g-network-impressions-speed-tests-t-mobile-merger-verizon#comments That's very encouraging news. I guess we'll see if Sprint's 5G impacts customer adds at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bretton88 Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Yep. Just a single C2A to a 2 port antenna. A super rare find! Sent from my Pixel 3 using TapatalkI wonder what's the point of putting up a B26 only site up. If you're going to the expense of setting up a new site, why not do a full triband setup? To note, I suspect there are similar setups on the town's along Highway 2 through Montana, as I found B26 in some of those towns too last weekend.Sent from my SM-N960U1 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nexgencpu Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, bretton88 said: I wonder what's the point of putting up a B26 only site up. If you're going to the expense of setting up a new site, why not do a full triband setup? To note, I suspect there are similar setups on the town's along Highway 2 through Montana, as I found B26 in some of those towns too last weekend. Sent from my SM-N960U1 using Tapatalk A way of spending as little as possible and be able to deploy VoLTE.. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilotimz Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 I wonder what's the point of putting up a B26 only site up. If you're going to the expense of setting up a new site, why not do a full triband setup? To note, I suspect there are similar setups on the town's along Highway 2 through Montana, as I found B26 in some of those towns too last weekend.Sent from my SM-N960U1 using Tapatalk$$$,$$$.Same reason why T-mobile and Vzw and ATT throws up low band only sites in rural areas.Optimize sites for coverage and then go back and add mid band and high band if there's demand.Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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