Sprint Reportedly Bowing Out of T-Mobile Bid (was "Sprint offer" and "Iliad" threads)

[jamisonshaw125]

Hopefully we're sitting here with 200 MM POP's of 8T8R and laughing at the thought that SoftBank was serious about buying T-Mobile.

How so many? Well I guess it makes sense. Now that NV's most important and time consuming phase is almost complete, it's just a matter of slapping on those antennae and getting them aimed and turned on. No rip and replace base cabinets and blah blah blah. Could it be possible we see a pace like how Tmobile did their LTE rollout? Except every site has backhaul so it's not half ass.

[Fraydog]

How so many? Well I guess it makes sense. Now that NV's most important and time consuming phase is almost complete, it's just a matter of slapping on those antennae and getting them aimed and turned on. No rip and replace base cabinets and blah blah blah. Could it be possible we see a pace like how Tmobile did their LTE rollout? Except every site has backhaul so it's not half ass.

200 MM in a year. That's what I'm saying.

 

July 2015.

 

PS - posts got moved to the proper topic, they went from the pricing options thread to the Sprint/T-Mobile thread.

[sbolen]

Hopefully we're sitting here with 200 MM POP's of 8T8R and laughing at the thought that SoftBank was serious about buying T-Mobile.

 

If Sprint can hit 200MM POP's with 8T8R in a year, nail down a solid marketing campaign and pricing structure (or a total brand re-boot), I'd be willing to bet that T-Mobile begs someone – anyone – to buy them out. There's no way they could survive a laser-focused Sprint.

[S4GRU]

If Sprint can hit 200MM POP's with 8T8R in a year, nail down a solid marketing campaign and pricing structure (or a total brand re-boot), I'd be willing to bet that T-Mobile begs someone – anyone – to buy them out. There's no way they could survive a laser-focused Sprint.

 

I agree with this thinking.  Sprint is turning the corner.  Starting to beat AT&T in performance.  Getting the additional rural CCA coverage.  The Masa/Saw combination is really ramping up on the network side.  Getting aggressive and creative on plan structure/pricing.  No need to combine with Tmo.  

 

Masa can take it right to the big boys soon enough.  Sprint just needs to focus on some strategic organic build outs in Non CCA covered areas and Sprint can even start comparing their coverage to the duopoly.  With the money SoftBank has set out for the network the next two years and a good and timely implementation of their current plans, Sprint is looking good.  

 

Today is far from perfect.  However, the difference being a Sprint customer today over 60 days ago is very improved for most customers.  And from a year ago, it is night and day.  Every 60 days going forward the difference will be measurable.  I think Masa should just walk away from a Tmo deal now.  Save himself from the money, the distraction and the heartache of dealing with the Feds.

 

Robert

[sbolen]

I agree with this thinking.  Sprint is turning the corner.  Starting to beat AT&T in performance.  Getting the additional rural CCA coverage.  The Masa/Saw combination is really ramping up on the network side.  Getting aggressive and creative on plan structure/pricing.  No need to combine with Tmo.  

 

Masa can take it right to the big boys soon enough.  Sprint just needs to focus on some strategic organic build outs in Non CCA covered areas and Sprint can even start comparing their coverage to the duopoly.  With the money SoftBank has set out for the network the next two years and a good and timely implementation of their current plans, Sprint is looking good.  

 

Today is far from perfect.  However, the difference being a Sprint customer today over 60 days ago is very improved for most customers.  And from a year ago, it is night and day.  Every 60 days going forward the difference will be measurable.  I think Masa should just walk away from a Tmo deal now.  Save himself from the money, the distraction and the heartache of dealing with the Feds.

 

Robert

 

I'll take this line of thought another step forward: there will come a day in maybe the next 12-18 months when T-Mobile shifts it's "Uncarrier" campaign away from targeting the duopoly and holds Sprint in the same regard as VZW and AT&T. The coverage will be there, the speed will the there, the rural coverage will be outstanding by comparison, and the customers will be coming back.

 

[Fraydog]

If Sprint can hit 200MM POP's with 8T8R in a year, nail down a solid marketing campaign and pricing structure (or a total brand re-boot), I'd be willing to bet that T-Mobile begs someone – anyone – to buy them out. There's no way they could survive a laser-focused Sprint.

That goes back to my Dish theory.

 

Charlie would run Angry Johnny off in five minutes!

[WiWavelength]

 

K-uger!

 

 

AJ

[Paynefanbro]

I'll take this line of thought another step forward: there will come a day in maybe the next 12-18 months when T-Mobile shifts it's "Uncarrier" campaign away from targeting the duopoly and holds Sprint in the same regard as VZW and AT&T. The coverage will be there, the speed will the there, the rural coverage will be outstanding by comparison, and the customers will be coming back.

 

 

In my opinion, they already are. With Legere's tweet about 230Million POP's with LTE, I think he finally realizes that Sprint is starting to become a threat again. He knows Sprint's LTE network is larger than T-Mobile's but he does press releases more often to make it seem like their network covers more people than Sprint. By the end of Q3, Sprint will have hit 250Million and T-Mobile will be clamoring about how they are still building out LTE over their EDGE footprint as if it'll make any difference for those people that still have 2 bars of EDGE in their house. Outside will be great, but having EDGE when you walk indoors is unacceptable.

[OhioCalling]

  Still can't quote any other post on S4GRU but I wish I was one of the "most" Robert refers to.  Service is worse now than it has ever been unless I travel to a location that has finished upgrades.  I know "Patience is a Virtue" but it is terrible to be surrounded by completed areas for over a year and see no progress here.  I no longer get excited when I see an update has been posted to the Completed Maps as I know it will be depressing.

[sbolen]

In my opinion, they already are. With Legere's tweet about 230Million POP's with LTE, I think he finally realizes that Sprint is starting to become a threat again. He knows Sprint's LTE network is larger than T-Mobile's but he does press releases more often to make it seem like their network covers more people than Sprint. By the end of Q3, Sprint will have hit 250Million and T-Mobile will be clamoring about how they are still building out LTE over their EDGE footprint as if it'll make any difference for those people that still have 2 bars of EDGE in their house. Outside will be great, but having EDGE when you walk indoors is unacceptable.

I tentatively agree. However, to give some context to that, I think T-Mobile/Legere currently see Sprint as a barrier to being #3, not so much in the same class as the duopoly. It's the "low-hanging fruit" that Team Magenta sees as attainable.

 

It's a war on two fronts with T-Mobile: they want to be #3, but also want to take customers from #1 & #2. Personally, I think they're going to spread themselves too thin.

[S4GRU]

Still can't quote any other post on S4GRU but I wish I was one of the "most" Robert refers to. Service is worse now than it has ever been unless I travel to a location that has finished upgrades. I know "Patience is a Virtue" but it is terrible to be surrounded by completed areas for over a year and see no progress here. I no longer get excited when I see an update has been posted to the Completed Maps as I know it will be depressing.

Your market is one of the last. You are definitely not one of the most.

 

Robert via Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

[Nickel]

Your market is one of the last. You are definitely not one of the most.

 

Robert via Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

While service has probably improved it's still depressing to me to see all those (particularly on the western side of the US) without LTE.

[S4GRU]

While service has probably improved it's still depressing to me to see all those (particularly on the western side of the US) without LTE.

Lincoln and Omaha are some of the most improved markets in the country. And it will get even better when B41 deployment starts in earnest soon.

 

EDIT: As far as other Western markets...somewhere has to be last. We are the last for Tmo and AT&T too. Lots of EDGE coverage here in the West. I don't have AT&T LTE in my home city yet, either. And now with the AT&T work stoppage, it may be another year yet. I'm thinking Sprint has the same or higher percentage of their native coverage upgraded to LTE than AT&T. And way, way more than Tmo.

 

No one can tout LTE coverage in the rural west other than VZW. But Sprint's doing as well or better than the rest.

 

Robert via Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

[Nickel]

Lincoln and Omaha are some of the most improved markets in the country. And it will get even better when B41 deployment starts in earnest soon.

 

Robert via Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

Wasn't talking about Nebraska, I meant places like AZ, NM and UT.

[S4GRU]

Wasn't talking about Nebraska, I meant places like AZ, NM and UT.

See my EDIT above. I accidentally hit reply on Tapatalk prematurely.

 

Robert via Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

[Nickel]

Lincoln and Omaha are some of the most improved markets in the country. And it will get even better when B41 deployment starts in earnest soon.

 

EDIT: As far as other Western markets...somewhere has to be last. We are the last for Tmo and AT&T too. Lots of EDGE coverage here in the West. I don't have AT&T LTE in my home city yet, either. And now with the AT&T work stoppage, it may be another year yet. I'm thinking Sprint has the same or higher percentage of their native coverage upgraded to LTE than AT&T. And way, way more than Tmo.

 

No one can tout LTE coverage in the rural west other than VZW. But Sprint's doing as well or better than the rest.

 

Robert via Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

Hmm, I guess I assumed that AT&T would have had LTE there by now.

[S4GRU]

Hmm, I guess I assumed that AT&T would have had LTE there by now.

 

Yeah, me too.  

 

Robert

[WiWavelength]

See my EDIT above. I accidentally hit reply on Tapatalk prematurely.

 

Premature Tapatalkulation is a common problem among men at S4GRU.

 

AJ

[Destroyallcubes]

Exactly. Sprint should just use the 30+ billion to expand coverage for a bigger foot print and maybe negotiate a deal to buy US cellular or Dish's spectrum holdings before VZW gets to either.

How could they get financing for 30+ billion if they do not have extra income to pay off the 30+ billion? To get 30+ billion it would require an increase of subscribers to offset cost. And getting that number of subscribers in a short time is only possible through merger. But maybe instead use the cash they already have and use towards expansion. Put sites in every wimax protection city without Sprint coverage plus expand into other areas and use Nextel towers with no current Sprint equipment on it (within reason) and boom you gained coverage. Plus put highway coverage to those island wimax protection city converts.

[jamisonshaw125]

Masa is already offloading 8 billion into the network upgrades a year. Aside from hiring new tower techs and integration techs to speed things up, what else could they do?

 

 

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[jamisonshaw125]

I don't give a damn about tweets. Unless I see changes, then it doesn't matter how many stupid tweets or profane statements Legere makes... I would never switch.

 

I want change, and sprint is providing it at an accelerating rate. I can't ask for any more.

 

 

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[WiWavelength]

I do legere keeps posting #sprintthings to keep Tmo fan base motivated and take the air out of whatever sprint may have to say... - Smart tactics on his part

 

Who is John Legere?  I call him John Legume.  He must eat a lot of beans because he is a huge gas bag.

 

AJ

[dnicekid]

I don't give a damn about tweets. Unless I see changes, then it doesn't matter how many stupid tweets or profane statements Legere makes... I would never switch.

 

I want change, and sprint is providing it at an accelerating rate. I can't ask for anymore.

 

 

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Lol, many here won't care about his tweets, outbursts and so forth- but many others completely buy into his "work" Maybe its only temporary but he is doing something to get tmo customers and attention.

[jamisonshaw125]

Lol, many here won't care about his tweets, outbursts and so forth- but many others completely buy into his "work" Maybe its only temporary but he is doing something to get tmo customers and attention.

I feel the majority of people that switch are the people that would switch right back to sprint if someone told them sprints service had greatly improved in their area. But then again, some of them are hard core data abusers and sprint won't tolerate that crap anymore.

[dnicekid]

I feel the majority of people that switch are the people that would switch right back to sprint if someone told them sprints service had greatly improved in their area. But then again, some of them are hard core data abusers and sprint won't tolerate that crap anymore.

I agree, and if the do that $50 unlimited plan... with great service and such people will come!