All Sprint acquisition discussion (was "Japan's Softbank in talks for $12.8 bln Sprint stake")

[WiWavelength]

It would be nice to see Sprints tower coverage expand.

Would it be nice to pay more to finance that buildout?

Of course

 

Okay, I will be sure to let Sprint know that you would like a higher bill next month.  Get ready for a $20 price hike.

 

AJ

[Rukin1]

Okay, I will be sure to let Sprint know that you would like a higher bill next month.  Get ready for a $20 price hike.

 

AJ

lol w0tt

[DaQue]

Uhoh " On July 8, the Standard & Poor's index cut Softbank's credit rating to junk. Its rating was lowered to BB+, "the highest non-investment grade," Bloomberg reported. "

 

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[DaQue]

Anyone know what Dish's rating is?

 

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[DaQue]

Never mind dish is BB-

 

 

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[maximus1987/lou99]

OK, now that the deal is close to closing, what has Sprint gotten out of the deal? $5B which is not enough to finance the Clearwire deal and payoff Clearwire debt. So in essence, Sprint is not that much better off financially. Asset wise, yes, but debt wise no. I am slightly dissapointed. Will Softbank be able to finance further acquisitions?

 

I just don't see how Sprint will be able to finance $16B in capex from operations. I guess I'm from Missouri. Show me!

That's obviously a Softbank injection.

[bigsnake49]

That's obviously a Softbank injection.

 

Softbank's 21.6 billion dollar takeover of Sprint includes $5 billion of capital to bolster the U.S. firm's balance sheet. Sprint is supposed to pay for network investments out of its own earnings, requiring no additional funding from Softbank.

 

Read more: http://www.nasdaq.com/article/softbank-set-to-invest-16-billion-at-sprint-20130707-00017#ixzz2YUm2jTe3

[tybo31316]

Well hopefully when this deal goes through that the new sprint will make more info available for Robert and his staff. Since these dudes saved sprint a lot of customers including myself. I feel that without this site most people would have jumped ship. Also, a donation from the new sprint to this site would be nice too.

[arizonariverrat]

Okay, I will be sure to let Sprint know that you would like a higher bill next month.  Get ready for a $20 price hike.

 

AJ

Gee just because it hasn't been done in the past doesn't mean it can not happen in the future. Reading here in the future not all LTE will be compatible anyways and Verizon roaming may disappear in the future. 

Nextel towers are done with. Why not ad back a few thousand in some higher traffic higher growth areas or where people visit and travel. There are places in summer that there are way more visitors than people living there year round. Same with winter ski areas where seasons are reversed. 

Also some areas there are still new subdivisions going in and more people living there or unfortunately going to live there in the future. 

I can think of some places microwave in some backhaul add to an existing cell tower for probably Verizon owned by whoever, then get the visitors traveling through, get local sprint customers, and since Son bought Clearwire give locals internet that way also. No dsl or very pathetic, absolutely no cable, and maybe a small WISP in these areas. Usually only desperate or nerds go for wisp.

There is no local small cell company to buy so only options are to ignore like some here just keep repeating or build your own. Hope Son sees a future to build your own in some select areas. 

Or just ignore the possibility of some at least to me and my wife key 3g roaming areas disappear in the future when 4g takes hold with all cell companies. 

ATT and Tmobile had no signal only Verizon and Sprint roaming. If those areas for Sprint go away my wife would not be happy. Plus some key areas no Sprint or even Sprint roaming but are Verizon my wife has family in and as said major tourist areas if there are no fires and do have a rowing population base unfortunately. But lets scream old Sprint and how poor we are with no vision for the future. We switched to Sprint and did not have a grandfathered unlimited data plan. We do not use that much but caps and overages can suck. So we went Sprint as i saw a future with it. Let the myopic penny counters with saying it can not be done bash. 

S&P did the same bash as no vision and maybe some bigger companies nudge the drop. Big two hate competition and would not doubt talked in someone ear. Son has vision and probably predicted the wrong credit drop back lash even though bet he does not agree about the risk level.

In town urban may get taken care of by small cell stuff that would help Clearwire. 

But still rant here about how it is not money smart and impossible. 

Edited July 8, 2013 by arizonariverrat

[jamesinclair]

Would sprint/softbank have any interest in the land game? ie, not relying on AT&T for back-haul and doing it themselves?

 

[maximus1987/lou99]

Would sprint/softbank have any interest in the land game? ie, not relying on AT&T for back-haul and doing it themselves?

Costs billions, takes years; maybe if backhaul costs increase A LOT so that Sprint actually sees payback in a few years and not decades.

[arizonariverrat]

Costs billions, takes years; maybe if backhaul costs increase A LOT so that Sprint actually sees payback in a few years and not decades.

They do have some nationwide backbone. Remember they started microwave backbone in the olden days.  So microwave to some connected towers? 

Plus backbone is a commodity. In rural areas Sprint has options. Less rural smaller ugh but options. Then microwave in. My wife in this instance as long as facebook and email text doesnt care about speed. It wowrks she doesnt care.

You idiots whine and do not build in before I think Verizon roaming in fun vacation AZ leaves she will make us leave. Not sppeed just there. 

Oh no one left to buy poor us. We messed up poor us. Pay us and see our whiny us section to see more whine. Maybe Son will; just do it. 

Or is Hesse a God or worst thing since gutter slime threads. 

[maximus1987/lou99]

They do have some nationwide backbone. Remember they started microwave backbone in the olden days.  So microwave to some connected towers? 

Plus backbone is a commodity. In rural areas Sprint has options. Less rural smaller ugh but options. Then microwave in. My wife in this instance as long as facebook and email text doesnt care about speed. It wowrks she doesnt care.

You idiots whine and do not build in before I think Verizon roaming in fun vacation AZ leaves she will make us leave. Not sppeed just there. 

Oh no one left to buy poor us. We messed up poor us. Pay us and see our whiny us section to see more whine. Maybe Son will; just do it. 

Or is Hesse a God or worst thing since gutter slime threads. 

 

They have a backbone but to run fiber to all 39k towers is expensive.

[Richmc]

Can someone translate that to English? Very hard to follow as written. Grabbing popcorn while waiting for AJ to chime back in.

 

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[WiWavelength]

Gee just because it hasn't been done in the past doesn't mean it can not happen in the future. Reading here in the future not all LTE will be compatible anyways and Verizon roaming may disappear in the future. 

. . .

 

But still rant here about how it is not money smart and impossible. 

 

arizonariverrat, first of all, welcome.  But your first two posts are long winded, borderline rants.  And S4GRU does not host rant posts.

 

Second, the FCC and DoJ are not going to allow VZW and AT&T to buy up (not build out) the most valuable national wireless footprint, then convert to LTE and pull up the ladder on all other network operators.  That would be game over with only the duopoly left standing.  Sprint, T-Mobile, and numerous regional/rural operators would be forced to sell out or go under.

 

So, as the eventual discontinuation of 2G/3G networks grows nearer and the dominance of LTE grows stronger, VZW and AT&T will have to strike LTE roaming deals -- either voluntarily or mandatorily.

 

AJ

[Rukin1]

arizonariverrat, first of all, welcome.  But your first two posts are long winded, borderline rants.  And S4GRU does not host rant posts.

 

Second, the FCC and DoJ are not going to allow VZW and AT&T to buy up (not build out) the most valuable national wireless footprint, then convert to LTE and pull up the ladder on all other network operators.  That would be game over with only the duopoly left standing.  Sprint, T-Mobile, and numerous regional/rural operators would be forced to sell out or go under.

 

So, as the eventual discontinuation of 2G/3G networks grows nearer and the dominance of LTE grows stronger, VZW and AT&T will have to strike LTE roaming deals -- either voluntarily or mandatorily.

 

AJ

No ranting

[WiWavelength]

No ranting

 

Would you know the difference between a rant and a blunt?  How about after a blunt?

 

AJ

[Fraydog]

Otosan is on his way.

[Rukin1]

Would you know the difference between a rant and a blunt?  How about after a blunt?

 

AJ

[Paynefanbro]

Something that we've kinda been skipping over is Masayoshi Son's bold claim to spend 16 Billion on Sprint in order to do a whole bunch of things, one being expanding Sprint's high speed network to that of Verizon's high speed network over to years. Do you guys think that they could do it? 

[maximus1987/lou99]

TMO is screwed. Sprint will drown urbanites in 2.5GHz tsunami and what will TMO's strength be then?

[bigsnake49]

Something that we've kinda been skipping over is Masayoshi Son's bold claim to spend 16 Billion on Sprint in order to do a whole bunch of things, one being expanding Sprint's high speed network to that of Verizon's high speed network over to years. Do you guys think that they could do it? 

 

See my posts #700, 707. I doubt it, since he's saying that they will finance it from operations. I just don't see it, unless their margins improve significantly.

[maximus1987/lou99]

See my posts #700, 707. I doubt it, since he's saying that they will finance it from operations. I just don't see it, unless their margins improve significantly.

Isn't it obvious that it's gonna be a capital infusion?

[bigsnake49]

Isn't it obvious that it's gonna be a capital infusion?

 

I'm going by what he said. See my post #707. He might be saying it for the benefit of his bankers, and there might be a cash infusion but I'm taking him at his word.

[bigsnake49]

TMO is screwed. Sprint will drown urbanites in 2.5GHz tsunami and what will TMO's strength be then?

 

Well, TMO has plenty of spectrum! What they don't have is coverage. 600Mhz spectrum will give them that. But it won't come in time.

 

AIO wireless will put the hurt on both Sprint and TMO and they both will have to respond.

 

From what I know, Softbank is looking at merging Sprint and T-Mobile. It will give them the scale to compete with the big boys. 

Edited July 9, 2013 by bigsnake49