Superlftman Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Found some LTE coverage on the north side of Northfield,MN. Was leaving the hospital and headed north on CR RD 23 and noticed it on my iPhone 5. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZ The Ninja Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Are they going to be putting lte up with these conditions? Holly crap it is cold!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supert0nes Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Are they going to be putting lte up with these conditions? Holly crap it is cold!!!!! I'm not sure if they are pausing during these really cold days. I actually kindof hope so for their safety! I was only outside for 15 minutes today but even that was enough. Hard to believe anyone could use their hands for anything useful when it is this cold. I guess we will know by the numbers of sites complete after next week. Maybe they can still make progress in ways that don't put them into the harsh conditions. I would definitely not want to be up in the bucket today or tomorrow! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZ The Ninja Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Ya not me either!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZ The Ninja Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 How would they get fiber cables to the sites when the ground is frozen, or do they already have them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supert0nes Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 How would they get fiber cables to the sites when the ground is frozen, or do they already have them. I doubt there's any digging in the winter. That would mean that a site would either have to already have the fiber or use microwave backhaul. Sprint will have known this in advance and any sites that need fiber lines to be trenched will wait until the spring thaw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ott3r Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 (edited) Digging does not happen after the ground starts to freeze, most digging doesn't pickup again until March-April, depending on temperature. It can cost thousands to do a simple ground bore after frosting since they have to cover the bore site(s) and run several heaters 24/7 until all of the ground frost is thawed out. Edited January 22, 2013 by ott3r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 We will use gas fired ground heaters here in New Mexico when the ground is frozen and we have to dig for really urgent work. We are using one now up in Los Alamos on a project. Where do we get these heaters? Minnesota, of course. Robert via Nexus 7 with Tapatalk HD 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbs123456 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 These last few days have been so bad! Wonder how much productivity will drop around the northern states during the winter? Spring can't come soon enough! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cesjr02 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 It seems they lit up more towers for LTE in the La Crosse WI area. The area around the intersection of La Crosse St. and West Ave and the tower located near River Valley Dr./Palace St. in the industrial park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 It seems they lit up more towers for LTE in the La Crosse WI area. The area around the intersection of La Crosse St. and West Ave and the tower located near River Valley Dr./Palace St. in the industrial park. Yea, they were in todays update in the Sponsor section. They were completed on Friday. Robert via Nexus 7 with Tapatalk HD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cesjr02 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Yea, they were in todays update in the Sponsor section. They were completed on Friday. Robert via Nexus 7 with Tapatalk HD Thanks for the confirmation. Am I correct to assume this is just the beginning of the rollout and can expect more coverage in the next few months? As another note, I was excited to see the tower nearest my house get LTE, but as my luck would have it I lose 4G signal 100ft from my place. Will these signals get a boost or is that just the short range limitation of LTE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Thanks for the confirmation. Am I correct to assume this is just the beginning of the rollout and can expect more coverage in the next few months? As another note, I was excited to see the tower nearest my house get LTE, but as my luck would have it I lose 4G signal 100ft from my place. Will these signals get a boost or is that just the short range limitation of LTE? The signal will get optimized and adjusted when watch adjacent site comes online. Every Sprint tower in your area will be upgraded eventually. The coverage will get a little better with each additional site. Robert via Nexus 7 with Tapatalk HD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisabaker Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I added some more LTE mapping on sensorly. The tower appears to be out west of 94 in Corcoran/Maple Grove area. North of where the previous LTE was lit up. Thanks for the heads up! Yeah the tower just north of CR 30 just west of CR 116. Pretty sure that's the one since my speed tests and signal spiked right at that intersection and it's the tallest thing around... Anyone know if they have to pull permits or something to do this work? If they do, knowing the City of Maple Grove and how much of a PITA they can be... I'm not surprised we don't have any tower work going on in our city... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nophix Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 We will use gas fired ground heaters here in New Mexico when the ground is frozen and we have to dig for really urgent work. We are using one now up in Los Alamos on a project. Where do we get these heaters? Minnesota, of course. Robert via Nexus 7 with Tapatalk HD It would cost a fortune to do that up here. We don't just get a little ground freeze. We get permafrost. So, they typically use that as a last resort for emergencyrepair. I have seen them run temp over the top and bury in the spring if its a crunch time issue, but typically they just wait until thaw. Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 It would cost a fortune to do that up here. We don't just get a little ground freeze. We get permafrost. So, they typically use that as a last resort for emergencyrepair. I have seen them run temp over the top and bury in the spring if its a crunch time issue, but typically they just wait until thaw. Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2 Los Alamos sits on the side of a mountain between 7,000-8000' ASL. It gets really cold here too, and our ground freezes really deep as well. And it's very expensive to run ground heaters. You only do it because you have to. Robert via Nexus 7 with Tapatalk HD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MophoManners Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 It would cost a fortune to do that up here. We don't just get a little ground freeze. We get permafrost. So, they typically use that as a last resort for emergencyrepair. I have seen them run temp over the top and bury in the spring if its a crunch time issue, but typically they just wait until thaw. Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2 We do it quite often in minnesota, never seen any perma frost here either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supert0nes Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I heard Minnesota has a monopoly on cold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nophix Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 We do it quite often in minnesota, never seen any perma frost here either... Maybe MN calls it something different. Deep freeze better for you? They call it permafrost in cheeseland. I've seen it done for repair, never for new install or upgrade. Maybe you guys hold frost longer than we do. Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 The term is used facetiously. Permafrost is when it is so cold that the ground never thaws out. It exists in the Arctic.<br /><br />Robert via Samsung Note II via Tapatalk<br /> 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MophoManners Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Maybe MN calls it something different. Deep freeze better for you? They call it permafrost in cheeseland. I've seen it done for repair, never for new install or upgrade. Maybe you guys hold frost longer than we do. Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2 We call it frost or "the frost line" 3.5'-5' on average Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkoellerwx Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Maybe MN calls it something different. Deep freeze better for you? They call it permafrost in cheeseland. I've seen it done for repair, never for new install or upgrade. Maybe you guys hold frost longer than we do. Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2 What Robert said. Permafrost only exists in the Arctic (or otherwise continuously cold regions). It means the ground never thaws out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyw Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 I saw 4g coming off the cell at 494 and 169 this morning in Eden Prairie for the first time today. I popped Sensorly up to map it, but only got 23 points mapped before it bumped me back to 3 g. The cell on Technology Dr has been running 4 g for a while too, but like a lot of them it tends to bump back to 3 g after a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MophoManners Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 I saw 4g coming off the cell at 494 and 169 this morning in Eden Prairie for the first time today. I popped Sensorly up to map it, but only got 23 points mapped before it bumped me back to 3 g. The cell on Technology Dr has been running 4 g for a while too, but like a lot of them it tends to bump back to 3 g after a while. It's not the tower on the east it's the midland bank on the west side next to winter park FYI ( if it has been upgraded) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyw Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Yep, that's the one I was connected to, the roof of the bank building. The Technology Dr. cell is on an Xcel high voltage tower on private property. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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