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#1 Ace41690

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 03:43 PM

It appears network Vision is ACTUALLY progressing in NYC. I just got great speeds from a tower where I normally get 600-800kbps. I can see the panels from my window, but I never noticed anyone changing them and I can't remember if there are any new ones. Do any of these look like NV? I think the two big huge ones (lower) might be new. This is at the corner of 70th and York Avenue, a tower that was supposed to go live this month.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 03:45 PM

How do I post another photo? It says I reached my limit 500k!?

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 03:48 PM

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 04:25 PM

Here's the speed I got. Also I was on a phone call at the time. Didn't know we could do voice and data at the same time now. Posted Image

Edit: Those are in fact, new panels. I found an old pick I took and they were not there before.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 07:25 PM

Here's the speed I got. Also I was on a phone call at the time. Didn't know we could do voice and data at the same time now. Posted Image

If your profile is right, you can't do simultaneous voice and 3G at the same time on the SGS II. Only SVWiMAX & SV-WiFi.
Unless the call is over VoIP.
This line you're reading right now is intentionally left blank...but it's not really blank, is it?

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 09:44 PM

I think sprint has to get as much as they can get done in big cities ASAP. By the time iphone 5 comes you they gotta be able to have the network up and running even in limited areas in the city. Otherwise their sales or support lines might light up for about a month until their "scheduled" start of NYC.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 11:21 PM

If your profile is right, you can't do simultaneous voice and 3G at the same time on the SGS II. Only SVWiMAX & SV-WiFi.
Unless the call is over VoIP.


If I'm correct, I believe that both the HTC Evo LTE and Samsung GS III can do SVDO 3G & 4G. So perhaps he has upgraded his phone, but not on his S4GRU profile.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 11:24 PM

If I'm correct, I believe that both the HTC Evo LTE and Samsung GS III can do SVDO 3G & 4G. So perhaps he has upgraded his phone, but not on his S4GRU profile.


I think you're right. His screen shot is showing SVDO (that's what happens when the notification bar turns green). It sure looks like a GS3 screen to me.

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 12:44 AM

Here's the speed I got. Also I was on a phone call at the time. Didn't know we could do voice and data at the same time now. Posted Image

Edit: Those are in fact, new panels. I found an old pick I took and they were not there before.

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I especially love the fact that you were also on Grindr at the time. LOL. : o )

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 08:42 AM

This is great news! Everyone else in NYC seems to be complaining about slow speeds except for me and 2 others. Around Battery Park City you can see upwards of 2Mbps.

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 08:47 AM

I especially love the fact that you were also on Grindr at the time. LOL. : o )


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Posted 25 August 2012 - 09:09 AM

Oops haha. It's an S3

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 09:29 AM

I think sprint has to get as much as they can get done in big cities ASAP. By the time iphone 5 comes you they gotta be able to have the network up and running even in limited areas in the city. Otherwise their sales or support lines might light up for about a month until their "scheduled" start of NYC.


I will have to disagree with you on this point, as much as it will be a selling point for people to be able to use their LTE iPhones, it is not worth screwing up the deployment schedule to make a few people happier. They will be largely done in a little over a year, so it will be out quickly. If they screw up and people don't trust their new network, the effect could be catastrophic for the company, as it could cause a mass-exodus of customers. They need to stick to their plans and not fall behind schedule, they have a plan for new backhaul to be ran and all the equipment to be replaced at every site, so its not like they can just go and turn on any tower whenever they feel like it. When it is done, it will be so much better than vzw's plan because it will cover the entire sprint network, and not just focus on the high density cities first.

And for those loyal to the iPhone, they will probably get the phone either way. And if the sales reps are even 1/10th as educated as the members of this site, they will know that it will only be a year for most to wait until LTE goodness graces everyone.

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 09:42 AM

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I agree. Sprint doesn't need to change its deployment plans. They just need to get on schedule and stay on schedule. Their schedule is aggressive but doable. And then they need to well communicate that schedule to everyone.

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 12:09 AM

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I agree. Sprint doesn't need to change its deployment plans. They just need to get on schedule and stay on schedule. Their schedule is aggressive but doable. And then they need to well communicate that schedule to everyone.

Robert


Hey Robert is Sprint replacing all its backhaul on all towers? Or are they just adding new towers? Sorry if this has been answered before.

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 06:23 AM

Hey Robert is Sprint replacing all its backhaul on all towers? Or are they just adding new towers? Sorry if this has been answered before.


All the equipment and backhaul is being upgraded at all 38,000 Sprint CDMA sites. There are not many new additional sites being added.

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 08:53 PM

So sometimes I've noticed I get bad speeds from this tower (400-500kps), while other times I get the great NV speeds (2mbps). I noticed they left the old antenna in the middle, are they both broadcasting and I'm switching between the two or something? Also These new panels are only on this one corner of the building, there is nothing pointing in any other directions.

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 10:13 AM

This tower is now marked 3G active on the NV sites map, but performance has taken a huge dive. I hope this is not what NV turns out to be... Any explanation for this? NY25XC800

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 10:15 AM

This tower is now marked 3G active on the NV sites map, but performance has taken a huge dive. I hope this is not what NV turns out to be... Any explanation for this? NY25XC800

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You cannot be certain, especially in a place like New York, that you are even connected to the same site. Have you verified the BSID number is the same in your Debug Engineering screens on the sites with good and bad speeds?

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 10:21 AM

You cannot be certain, especially in a place like New York, that you are even connected to the same site. Have you verified the BSID number is the same in your Debug Engineering screens on the sites with good and bad speeds?

Robert


...How do I do that?

While I realize there are a million towers here, the fact that I can see this particular tower out my window, (i.e. I am 100ft away from it), makes me doubt I would be connected to a different one. It was also down the other day (probably related to NV), which resulted in me only having 2 or 3 bars, as opposed to full signal which I have now (although I realize this displays 1X not Evdo signal).





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