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WiFi toggled off.
When I am upstairs, my phone can pick up proper GPS location on it's own from outside.
In my very deep basement, my phone gets the GPS location solely from the Magicbox.
My weather app follows me where I go (uses GPS) so I could tell immediately when the weather conditions were way off.
That's Google location services probably. LTE doesn't broadcast location information. When your phone gets a GPS lock, it reports nearby cell and wifi information to Google. Then when it can't get GPS, Google can estimate the location based on wifi or cell data. The more data they collect the more accurate it gets. When things change, there is a lag of a few days before it updates.

I've had the same thing happen when moving wifi access points, or even if I've been VPNed into my home network for a while from another location. For a few days afterwards Google has associated my home IP with that other location and reports that (or reports a location in Kansas, basically the default "I don't know" location for the US) instead of the real location.

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I believe this has been discussed here, but is there a way to force the MB to latch onto B25 instead of B41? Where mine is located, it latches on to a VERY weak B41 signal instead of B25. None of my phones can get B41 at this location so the signal is very, very weak.

The problem with latching on to B41, I get a decent download speed from the MB (close to 20 Mbps) but upload is less than 1 Mbps. This is with 1 user. I notice that if I run a speedtest on the MB, during the upload segment, the MB will actually fall offline (lose all LTE data activity). No data throughput when connected to the MB for 2-3 minutes after/during an upload speedtest.

Would the MB phone support team be able to force the MB on to B25?

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I believe this has been discussed here, but is there a way to force the MB to latch onto B25 instead of B41? Where mine is located, it latches on to a VERY weak B41 signal instead of B25. None of my phones can get B41 at this location so the signal is very, very weak.
The problem with latching on to B41, I get a decent download speed from the MB (close to 20 Mbps) but upload is less than 1 Mbps. This is with 1 user. I notice that if I run a speedtest on the MB, during the upload segment, the MB will actually fall offline (lose all LTE data activity). No data throughput when connected to the MB for 2-3 minutes after/during an upload speedtest.
Would the MB phone support team be able to force the MB on to B25?
No unfortunately. They said technically they (a higher up tech with access to the right tools) can move it to B25, but it doesn't stick past a reboot. So the next time the device reboots (power failure, software update, etc), it will be back on B41. They did not want to set a precedent of doing this, and having people repeatedly call in to have it locked back to B25.

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14 minutes ago, ingenium said:

No unfortunately. They said technically they (a higher up tech with access to the right tools) can move it to B25, but it doesn't stick past a reboot. So the next time the device reboots (power failure, software update, etc), it will be back on B41. They did not want to set a precedent of doing this, and having people repeatedly call in to have it locked back to B25.

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On 2/17/2020 at 12:54 PM, though said:

I believe this has been discussed here, but is there a way to force the MB to latch onto B25 instead of B41? Where mine is located, it latches on to a VERY weak B41 signal instead of B25. None of my phones can get B41 at this location so the signal is very, very weak.

The problem with latching on to B41, I get a decent download speed from the MB (close to 20 Mbps) but upload is less than 1 Mbps. This is with 1 user. I notice that if I run a speedtest on the MB, during the upload segment, the MB will actually fall offline (lose all LTE data activity). No data throughput when connected to the MB for 2-3 minutes after/during an upload speedtest.

Would the MB phone support team be able to force the MB on to B25?

Why not use your own WiFi instead?

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1 hour ago, banananuts87 said:

Why not use your own WiFi instead?

Question- Does anyone know how the MB works if you have it set to Wifi but your home internet goes down for whatever reason. Power outage, general failure, etc? Does it automatically fall-back to LTE for backhaul? If so, how long does it take?

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6 minutes ago, though said:

Question- Does anyone know how the MB works if you have it set to Wifi but your home internet goes down for whatever reason. Power outage, general failure, etc? Does it automatically fall-back to LTE for backhaul? If so, how long does it take?

It does not automatically fall back to LTE backhaul.  Tries to reestablish with your Wi-Fi backhaul first. If that fails, you have to manually change backhaul to LTE. 

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1 minute ago, banananuts87 said:

It does not automatically fall back to LTE backhaul.  Tries to reestablish with your Wi-Fi backhaul first. If that fails, you have to manually change backhaul to LTE. 

I guess that answers the question for me and for you. I want an instant internet backup solution if/when the primary internet (LAN/WiFI) connection ever drops.

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I guess that answers the question for me and for you. I want an instant internet backup solution if/when the primary internet (LAN/WiFI) connection ever drops.
Your best bet is to leave it on relay then. You can also get a battery backup (UPS) and plug your modem and router into that in case of power outages. The ISP usually has battery backup on their end (911), so as long as you can power your side you'll keep internet. I've been doing it for years and it works well. You can get away with a pretty small unit ($60-$100 range) and it should be able to power it for at least an hour, but probably several hours.

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