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When son mentions devices (net alliance/CCA deals) could he also be talking about the bright star acquisition? I get the feeling that Tmo will start losing steam with recent changes and that Son is starting to put all the pieces together...

 

Net alliance, CCA, dish deal, network vision and possible Tmo buyout....that's a lot on the plate.... But I like the fact that sprint isn't standing still. I love how Mass wants to fight.

Economy of scales is a huge advantage for any entity.

 

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Anyone know how many CCA members are also in VZW's LTE in rural America program. I know Cellcom, my local one, is.

 

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Is Sprint going to support band 13? Or will the LTEiRA partners going to deploy LTE on another band that Sprint could use? Those carriers are using Verizon spectrum so wouldn't Verizon have some say in what they do with it?

 

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So using a slide (at 9:42) from Son's presentation at CCA I compiled a list of the carriers shown.

This list is probably not complete and I welcome any additions and modifications.

 

Blue Wireless

Area of Operation: Western NY & PA

http://www.blueunlimited.com/

 

Bluegrass Cellular*

AO: Central and Western KY

http://bluegrasscellular.com/

 

SRT Wireless

AO: ND & MT

http://www.srt.com/

 

US Cellular

AO: 23 states including WA, OR, CA, NE, KS, OK, TX, IA, MO, MN, IL, IN, MI, TN, WV, VA, NC, SC, MD, PA, VT, NH, ME

http://www.uscellular.com/

 

NexTech Wireless

AO: KS

https://www.nex-techwireless.com

 

C-Spire

AO: MS, TN, FL, AL, GA

http://www.cspire.com/

 

MobileNation

AO: TN, KY

http://mymobilenation.com/

 

Carolina West*

AO: NC

https://www.carolinawest.com

 

Sagebrush Cellular/Nemont*

AO: MT, ND

http://www.nemont.net/wireless.php

 

LEACO/NMobile

AO: NM

http://www.nmobilenow.com/

 

Inland Cellular

AO: WA, ID

http://inlandcellular.com/

 

nTelos

AO: VA, WV, MD, OH, KY, NC

https://www.ntelos.com/

 

CellCom*

AO: WI

http://www.cellcom.com/

 

James Valley Telecom

AO: SD

http://jamesvalley.com/

 

United Wireless

AO: KS

http://www.unitedwireless.com/

 

Pioneer Cellular*

AO: KS, OK

https://www.wirelesspioneer.com/

 

PTCI

AO: OK

http://www.ptci.net/

 

 

* Denotes a member of VZW LTE in Rural America program

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LTEiRA participants cannot participate in the Sprint program due to exclusivity clauses in the deal. And C Spire Wireless does not offer/sell service in Georgia. It does, however, sell and operate service in Memphis, Mobile, and Pensacola.

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But I think theres is something that could happen cause it seemed bluegrass celluar was interested in some kind of a deal maybe from the articles and stuff I read. And wouldn't they still be able to use sprints spectrum or their own and put lte on it and work out a deal that way?

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But I think theres is something that could happen cause it seemed bluegrass celluar was interested in some kind of a deal maybe from the articles and stuff I read. And wouldn't they still be able to use sprints spectrum or their own and put lte on it and work out a deal that way?

That seems likely.

I imagine that Bluegrass and other LTEiRA cannot offer roaming on the Band 13 LTE network that they've built out due to an exclusivity agreement with VZW. However, reading into what the executive from Bluegrass said, they seem to be able to participate in agreements with another carrier or consortium if they so choose.

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I really hope they do bluegrass has ridiculous coverage in Kentucky and would help sprint on coverage so much needed in a lot of areas. I hope something really comes of it. I was looking into the spectrum maps and bluegrass has their own 700mhz holdings.

 

I'm not sure if some of the area if southernlinc has 800mhz in my area or not still trying to figure out if in beta 52 if sprint owns enough here for a 5×5lte carrier?

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So using a slide (at 9:42) from Son's presentation at CCA I compiled a list of the carriers shown.

This list is probably not complete and I welcome any additions and modifications.

 

Blue Wireless

Area of Operation: Western NY & PA

http://www.blueunlimited.com/

 

Bluegrass Cellular*

AO: Central and Western KY

http://bluegrasscellular.com/

 

SRT Wireless

AO: ND & MT

http://www.srt.com/

 

US Cellular

AO: 23 states including WA, OR, CA, NE, KS, OK, TX, IA, MO, MN, IL, IN, MI, TN, WV, VA, NC, SC, MD, PA, VT, NH, ME

http://www.uscellular.com/

 

NexTech Wireless

AO: KS

https://www.nex-techwireless.com

 

C-Spire

AO: MS, TN, FL, AL, GA

http://www.cspire.com/

 

MobileNation

AO: TN, KY

http://mymobilenation.com/

 

Carolina West*

AO: NC

https://www.carolinawest.com

 

Sagebrush Cellular/Nemont*

AO: MT, ND

http://www.nemont.net/wireless.php

 

LEACO/NMobile

AO: NM

http://www.nmobilenow.com/

 

Inland Cellular

AO: WA, ID

http://inlandcellular.com/

 

nTelos

AO: VA, WV, MD, OH, KY, NC

https://www.ntelos.com/

 

CellCom*

AO: WI

http://www.cellcom.com/

 

James Valley Telecom

AO: SD

http://jamesvalley.com/

 

United Wireless

AO: KS

http://www.unitedwireless.com/

 

Pioneer Cellular*

AO: KS, OK

https://www.wirelesspioneer.com/

 

PTCI

AO: OK

http://www.ptci.net/

 

 

* Denotes a member of VZW LTE in Rural America program

 

Looking at the coverage area for SRT, I can understand why the rumor is that Sprint will build out in ND along I94 to the west, but not really expand in the north, by going west down HWY 2. SRT has solid coverage in the north starting near Rugby ND going west all the way into western MT before it stops. If I were Sprint, I would only try to build out in ND and MT to areas that SRT isn't already covering. If you have a partner willing to provide native type coverage, then best to target your expansion to areas where you both are relying on VZW for roaming.

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Looking at the coverage area for SRT, I can understand why the rumor is that Sprint will build out in ND along I94 to the west, but not really expand in the north, by going west down HWY 2. SRT has solid coverage in the north starting near Rugby ND going west all the way into western MT before it stops. If I were Sprint, I would only try to build out in ND and MT to areas that SRT isn't already covering. If you have a partner willing to provide native type coverage, then best to target your expansion to areas where you both are relying on VZW for roaming.

I haven't heard of this rumor, do you have a link?

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Is Sprint going to support band 13? Or will the LTEiRA partners going to deploy LTE on another band that Sprint could use? Those carriers are using Verizon spectrum so wouldn't Verizon have some say in what they do with it?

 

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This is sort of what I was wondering.  I figured verizon wouldnt let them share verizon specctrum.  What I wonder is if there agreement with verizon will let them build out sprint spectrum in the same area.

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I haven't heard of this rumor, do you have a link?

 

http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/3856-network-visionlte-dakotas-market-including-fargo-grand-forks-alexandria-mn/page-10

 

The way I read it, and this isn't solid so that's why I say rumor, is that they are going for solid coverage along I29 in ND and SD, along I94 across ND into MT, plus coverage running north from Bismarck to Minot (US83) and from Dickinson up to Williston (US85). But they aren't going to go west along US2 very far from Grand Forks. My guess is that lack of buildout along US 2 is because it would simply duplicate SRT's coverage area.

 

Here is the SRT coverage map. http://www.srt.com/onlinestore/do/content/coverageMap

 

You can see SRT has very solid coverage of the area along US2 from Rugby ND to Dodson MT, and north to the border. That's why I say Sprint SHOULD build from east to west along the southern edge of their coverage.

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So using a slide (at 9:42) from Son's presentation at CCA I compiled a list of the carriers shown.

This list is probably not complete and I welcome any additions and modifications.

 

Blue Wireless

Area of Operation: Western NY & PA

http://www.blueunlimited.com/

 

Bluegrass Cellular*

AO: Central and Western KY

http://bluegrasscellular.com/

 

SRT Wireless

AO: ND & MT

http://www.srt.com/

 

US Cellular

AO: 23 states including WA, OR, CA, NE, KS, OK, TX, IA, MO, MN, IL, IN, MI, TN, WV, VA, NC, SC, MD, PA, VT, NH, ME

http://www.uscellular.com/

 

NexTech Wireless

AO: KS

https://www.nex-techwireless.com

 

C-Spire

AO: MS, TN, FL, AL, GA

http://www.cspire.com/

 

MobileNation

AO: TN, KY

http://mymobilenation.com/

 

Carolina West*

AO: NC

https://www.carolinawest.com

 

Sagebrush Cellular/Nemont*

AO: MT, ND

http://www.nemont.net/wireless.php

 

LEACO/NMobile

AO: NM

http://www.nmobilenow.com/

 

Inland Cellular

AO: WA, ID

http://inlandcellular.com/

 

nTelos

AO: VA, WV, MD, OH, KY, NC

https://www.ntelos.com/

 

CellCom*

AO: WI

http://www.cellcom.com/

 

James Valley Telecom

AO: SD

http://jamesvalley.com/

 

United Wireless

AO: KS

http://www.unitedwireless.com/

 

Pioneer Cellular*

AO: KS, OK

https://www.wirelesspioneer.com/

 

PTCI

AO: OK

http://www.ptci.net/

 

 

* Denotes a member of VZW LTE in Rural America program

Are most of these/all of these carriers using CDMA based networks?

 

 

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Are most of these/all of these carriers using CDMA based networks?

 

 

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Yes, I believe they are. As I was compiling the list I was checking various details against a few different websites. I don't believe I saw GSM on any of them. There are very few GSM regionals, which was kind of a surprise.

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Yes, I believe they are. As I was compiling the list I was checking various details against a few different websites. I don't believe I saw GSM on any of them. There are very few GSM regionals, which was kind of a surprise.

Most were swallowed up by AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile.

 

 

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How long will this take to implement? It would be great if it could start rolling by the summer travel season but I imagine it will be 2015 before we see anything???

 

There's already ten carriers signed up for the hub iirc. USCC is a given considering they were the ones actually testing the hub with Sprint. Cspire is likely considering the rumored existing roaming agreement with them. Shentel... Ntelos... and smaller carriers I assume. 

 

I guess they're just finalizing negotiations for money and all that jazz with the lawyers. Nothing technically stops them from opening up reciprocal roaming right now. 

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