IamMrFamous07 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 This is something I have been quietly advocating, especially in the IBEZ, where possible. I think AT&T should do it too. I would. And then I would CA the one B26 and one B12 carrier together in the markets where you have both. Then you could have some 10MHz low frequency action. And even if you don't come up with it in a lot of markets, make Tmo pay more by having to compete with someone for that spectrum!!! Robert That will be a great Idea. I wonder if sprint will use CA with 600Mhz and band 26. Random but can they aggregate band 26 and band 25? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaryTheLabelGuy Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 That will be a great Idea. I wonder if sprint will use CA with 600Mhz and band 26. Random but can they aggregate band 26 and band 25? They could with inter-band CA. EDIT: I have no idea if they equipment currently deployed is capable of inter-band CA. Obviously there are no devices able to do this currently. Sent from my LG G3 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamMrFamous07 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 It would be awesome if Sprint can acquire us cellular and form a partnership with dish. I don't want tmobile to get their hands on either 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamMrFamous07 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 They could with inter-band CA. EDIT: I have no idea if they equipment currently deployed is capable of inter-band CA. Obviously there are no devices able to do this currently. Sent from my LG G3 using Tapatalk I don't think so either. All we heard was CA within the 2.5 spectrum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 That will be a great Idea. I wonder if sprint will use CA with 600Mhz and band 26. Random but can they aggregate band 26 and band 25? If they end up with just 5x5 pieces of 600MHz, I would expect them to CA with B26. Doing CA with B25+B26 is not a good idea. Since B26 covers so many more customers, it will be overwhelmed to add some of those people who are already within B25 coverage over on to B26 too. B26 needs to be preserved for people outside usable B25 range, or extra capacity only when other bands are full and B26 has lots of spare room. Also, B26 users would only get the boost when they are also in range of B25. So that negates the whole advantage. It would only 'feel' like 10MHz inside the B25 areas. Not inside buildings and outside B25 coverage. And then you reduced B26 performance when you were in areas with no B25 coverage. It's just a bad idea in Sprint's case. I would advocate for Sprint to consider intra band CA for Band 25 carriers, though. In markets where they have two B25 carriers, aggregate them. It would not be much of a leap to get OEM's to add B25 CA with their upcoming B41 CA devices. Besides, the relief for B25 really is another B25 carrier or B41, not B26. Once B41 is common in the next 12-18 months, B25 is just going to get less and less common. If you think about it, a full Triband site would have B41 in the inner 1/2 of a cell, B25 in just the 1/8-1/4 ring outside B41, and B26 everything outside that. B25's usable geographic area will be going way down after B41 starts doing the heavy lifting. Robert via Samsung Note 8.0 using Tapatalk Pro 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansltx Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Re: Apple and B41, they have B26, B25 and B13, which are all single-carrier bands. Phone tech has advanced a bit singe the 5s/5c so they can probably add another band in there. I'd say that the Nexus 5 already has this but it's missing B13. Hopefully these big price drops will end up with at least unlimited talk/text with 3GB tether-able web for $50/mo. I can dream about them having unlimited at that price since I could get exactly that with Voyager Mobile but Voyager has no way of doing tethering, and I'm sure no roaming. Whatever the price drops end up being, looking forward to moving off of my SERO-P plan and onto something that won't have folks looking askance at me every time I mention the plan I have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamMrFamous07 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 If they end up with just 5x5 pieces of 600MHz, I would expect them to CA with B26. Doing CA with B25+B26 is not a good idea. Since B26 covers so many more customers, it will be overwhelmed to add some of those people who are already within B25 coverage over on to B26 too. B26 needs to be preserved for people outside usable B25 range, or extra capacity only when other bands are full and B26 has lots of spare room. Also, B26 users would only get the boost when they are also in range of B25. So that negates the whole advantage. It would only 'feel' like 10MHz inside the B25 areas. Not inside buildings and outside B25 coverage. And then you reduced B26 performance when you were in areas with no B25 coverage. It's just a bad idea in Sprint's case. I would advocate for Sprint to consider intra band CA for Band 25 carriers, though. In markets where they have two B25 carriers, aggregate them. It would not be much of a leap to get OEM's to add B25 CA with their upcoming B41 CA devices. Besides, the relief for B25 really is another B25 carrier or B41, not B26. Once B41 is common in the next 12-18 months, B25 is just going to get less and less common. If you think about it, a full Triband site would have B41 in the inner 1/2 of a cell, B25 in just the 1/8-1/4 ring outside B41, and B26 everything outside that. B25's usable geographic area will be going way down after B41 starts doing the heavy lifting. Robert via Samsung Note 8.0 using Tapatalk Pro Very good points. I really hope they can get 10 X 10 600mhz. How will sprint and Softbank be able to obtain this? I'm not familiar on how wireless auctions work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamMrFamous07 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Re: Apple and B41, they have B26, B25 and B13, which are all single-carrier bands. Phone tech has advanced a bit singe the 5s/5c so they can probably add another band in there. I'd say that the Nexus 5 already has this but it's missing B13. Hopefully these big price drops will end up with at least unlimited talk/text with 3GB tether-able web for $50/mo. I can dream about them having unlimited at that price since I could get exactly that with Voyager Mobile but Voyager has no way of doing tethering, and I'm sure no roaming. Whatever the price drops end up being, looking forward to moving off of my SERO-P plan and onto something that won't have folks looking askance at me every time I mention the plan I have Yes I hope these plans include tethering! That would entice some people to switch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 I just tweeted @marceloclaure, welcoming him from S4GRU members. I then asked him about doing B25 CA in markets with 2 LTE carriers. Robert via Samsung Note 8.0 using Tapatalk Pro 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 I really hope they can get 10 X 10 600mhz. How will sprint and Softbank be able to obtain this? I'm not familiar on how wireless auctions work. By outbidding everyone else in every market they want to obtain it. Robert via Samsung Note 8.0 using Tapatalk Pro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamisonshaw125 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 I just tweeted @marceloclaure, welcoming him from S4GRU members. I then asked him about doing B25 CA in markets with 2 LTE carriers. Robert via Samsung Note 8.0 using Tapatalk Pro I wonder if he will respond..... O.o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 I wonder if he will respond..... O.o I don't know. The chances are much higher than in the past. He seems to be more connected to social media. And if he is going to be competing with Tmo, connecting to Twitter will be important. We will see. Robert via Samsung Note 8.0 using Tapatalk Pro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnner1999 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 I don't know. The chances are much higher than in the past. He seems to be more connected to social media. And if he is going to be competing with Tmo, connecting to Twitter will be important. We will see. Robert via Samsung Note 8.0 using Tapatalk Pro It would pick up a bunch of press. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamMrFamous07 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 I just tweeted @marceloclaure, welcoming him from S4GRU members. I then asked him about doing B25 CA in markets with 2 LTE carriers. Robert via Samsung Note 8.0 using Tapatalk Pro I'm surprised they haven't done that yet. That will give the maximum Download speeds to about 74 Mbps second? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 I'm surprised they haven't done that yet. That will give the maximum Download speeds to about 74 Mbps second? Well, there are no CA devices yet for Sprint, either. But if they added B25 CA with the upcoming B41 CA devices, there's a good time to add it. Yes, peak performance of two bonded 5MHz channels with 2x MIMO to both carriers would be ~75Mbps DL in a perfect scenario. But it would theoretically double PCS LTE speeds everywhere in use. So in places where two B25 5MHz carriers are deployed, and they are averaging 5-8Mbps, speeds would be roughly 10-14Mbps with CA. That's worth it. Robert via Samsung Note 8.0 using Tapatalk Pro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnner1999 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 circling back to the emphasis on Apple... What if Marcelo and Son were able to get Apple (and IBM, as IBM and Apple are now in a huge partnership for business) to bring or add Sprint into a new iPad that has Spark in it. AND Apple/IBM can market free data to those new business customers... would sort of tie into place with how Sprint said its getting back into Business more??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utiz4321 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 My guess? Claure on his hands and kbees begging for band 41 in new Apple products. Lol....of course, a little late for that and probably already done anyway. So I'm with you...very curious. The new phone is set at this point. He wasn't begging for anything. If I had some one to bet with I would be all new Apple prpoducts have band 41. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 The new phone is set at this point. He wasn't begging for anything. If I had some one to bet with I would be all new Apple prpoducts have band 41. The new iPhone is likely already coming off assembly lines at full steam. You're absolutely right it is way too late to add bands now. It's either in or it's not. I don't see Marcelo begging anyone for anything. Persuading or convincing, perhaps. Whatever he's cooking up with Apple is completely different than B41 capability. Robert via Samsung Note 8.0 using Tapatalk Pro 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jroepcke51 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 The new iPhone is likely already coming off assembly lines at full steam. You're absolutely right it is way too late to add bands now. It's either in or it's not. I don't see Marcelo begging anyone for anything. Persuading or convincing, perhaps. Whatever he's cooking up with Apple is completely different than B41 capability. Robert via Samsung Note 8.0 using Tapatalk Pro I wonder if it could be a partnership to add b41 to apples wifi devices (air ports). It would be a great entry into fixes wireless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paynefanbro Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 The excitement is killing me. I want my dad to switch h from this Everything Data 1500 plan already. I'm ready for yearly upgrades. Sadly Framily wasn't saving him any money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD8JBF Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 I just fell out of my chair. Robert via Samsung Note 8.0 using Tapatalk Pro 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacinJosh Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 I really think that Marcelo's meeting with Tim Cook was about bringing Sprint's Easy Pay to Apple Stores like the other other big 3. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skid71 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Edited. Info already posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbom Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 There is no Mark up on Apple products (for att at least) and an average of 20-50 dollars on android phones. The manufacturers capture nearly all the profits off handsets. http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/iphone-cost-what-apple-is-paying/ 39.6% margin, with iPhone likely 49-58% according to Reuters around $294 profit No reason for Androids to be that much different with the exception that with Android the device makers probably don't keep as much of the profit, Samsung I believe is at $100 for the Galasy 4/5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utiz4321 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/iphone-cost-what-apple-is-paying/ 39.6% margin, with iPhone likely 49-58% according to Reuters around $294 profit No reason for Androids to be that much different with the exception that with Android the device makers probably don't keep as much of the profit, Samsung I believe is at $100 for the Galasy 4/5 For the manufacturer not the carriers. The carriers buy the phone from the manufacturer and the manufacturer captures the profits. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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