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It seems Sprint is going to try to leap frog to 5g, rolling out a year from now. What's actually required for them to do that ? How much is hardware vs software ? For instance, is a b41 antenna all the hardware required , only the software needs to be updated ? Does it require 8T8R antenna ? If an antenna is updated to 5g,  will it still work for 4g or only 5g ?

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It seems Sprint is going to try to leap frog to 5g, rolling out a year from now. What's actually required for them to do that ? How much is hardware vs software ? For instance, is a b41 antenna all the hardware required , only the software needs to be updated ? Does it require 8T8R antenna ? If an antenna is updated to 5g,  will it still work for 4g or only 5g ?

The equipment will be able to do both. They do have the holdings to do it. There others have to wait ( I think) for spectrum to be approved.

 

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The 64T64R equipment that Sprint plans to start deploying this year will be software upgradable to 5G NR. 

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So even 8T8R won't work for 5g ? This means none of the existing facilities will work for 5g. Every tower needs new antennas. Wow, that's a lot of money ! I thought they could use some of the existing equipment. Hard to see how Sprint can upgrade and expand 4g, and also add 5g everywhere.

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8t8r may work with some aspects of 5G but 5G has two points where the towers would need work done on them. 

1) Massive MIMO panels can be 5G. 8t8r is the limit of 4G anything bigger could be labeled 5G capable.

2)8t8r uses B41 meaning they will not include the higher 5G frequencies. (Small cells everywhere due to limited range of freq above 2.5 GHz )

There could be a software update with 5G benefits and marketers labeling that it was a 5G update but it would be a stretch.

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B41 includes 2496MHz - 2690MHz. Isn't that all the spectrum Sprint has in the 2.5+ GHz spectrum ? What other spectrum would it be using for 5g ?

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B41 includes 2496MHz - 2690MHz. Isn't that all the spectrum Sprint has in the 2.5+ GHz spectrum ? What other spectrum would it be using for 5g ?
Yes, but they aren't using all of their B41 spectrum for LTE. So they can deploy both in that frequency block.

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Does anyone know if the 64T64R is widely available and how much does it cost comparison to the 8T8R antenna? Wondering if Sprint can get 50% of its sites with the 64T64R equipment this year.

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I believe Tim mentioned something to that fact that 64T64R will only be deployed where an 8T8R is already maxed out. or at least that was the impression I seem to recall. So rather then just dropping in the 64T64R in any old tower they'll only drop in very few 64T64R units where it's actually going to make a big difference.

 

I believe he stated that they would be pretty rare. Say only a handful of sites in NYC would even be potential upgraded for them at this time. Due to cost, and how much the sites actually needed them etc.

Take that with a grain of salt though :)

 

-J

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Yeah, plus a 8T8R "maxed out" should provide a ton of throughput.  4x4MIMO + 256QAM on 4 Carriers is almost 1Gbps for just that single sector.  It might even be way more cost effective to just add additional sectors to the site or toss up another 8T8R antenna. I'd expect 64T64R to be extremely rare, especially if it is really expensive.

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1 hour ago, red_dog007 said:

Yeah, plus a 8T8R "maxed out" should provide a ton of throughput.  4x4MIMO + 256QAM on 4 Carriers is almost 1Gbps for just that single sector.  It might even be way more cost effective to just add additional sectors to the site or toss up another 8T8R antenna. I'd expect 64T64R to be extremely rare, especially if it is really expensive.

64T64R is 5G capable.  Sprint can smoke it's competitors asap by deploying this antenna.  Will boost its 4G network and ready for 5G.

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On 2/11/2018 at 11:14 AM, red_dog007 said:

Yeah, plus a 8T8R "maxed out" should provide a ton of throughput.  4x4MIMO + 256QAM on 4 Carriers is almost 1Gbps for just that single sector.  It might even be way more cost effective to just add additional sectors to the site or toss up another 8T8R antenna. I'd expect 64T64R to be extremely rare, especially if it is really expensive.

I think 4 carriers will be 1.2gbps. They accomplished 300mbps on a single b41 carrier. I’m excited to experience this!!! Now hopefully upload can be at least be 15-20mbps lol

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64T64R is 5G capable.  Sprint can smoke it's competitors asap by deploying this antenna.  Will boost its 4G network and ready for 5G.
The nice thing about the 64t64r is that it can do both LTE and 5g at the same time. Sprint will be using these as a bridge and dedicating half of the radios to each network at first.

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