Network Vision/LTE - Missouri Market (includes St. Louis)

[DaQue]

Well in less than a week i'll be a Missourah'n don't know what to think about it.

 

Welcome to Missouri. Only warning I have if you try to use the unofficial state slogan "Show Me" as a pick up line be prepared to get slapped a lot.

[WiWavelength]

Well in less than a week i'll be a Missourah'n don't know what to think about it.

 

Does the new Dierbergs at Osage Beach plan to sell smokes, porn, fireworks, and walnut bowls?

 

 

AJ

[Rickie546]

Does the new Dierbergs at Osage Beach plan to sell smokes, porn, fireworks, and walnut bowls?

 

 

AJ

 

Ha well maybe 2 of the 4

[Fraydog]

 

Does the new Dierbergs at Osage Beach plan to sell smokes, porn, fireworks, and walnut bowls?

 

 

AJ

 

I don't know but I know Rozier's in Perryville sells all that.

[DaQue]

Anyone know how many total sites in the Missouri Sprint market? So I will know how many are left to go.

[Dkoellerwx]

Anyone know how many total sites in the Missouri Sprint market? So I will know how many are left to go.

 

A lot.

 

 

I'm fairly certain it's over 600. I don't have that information in front of me right now. Possibly a lot over 600. I'm not sure.

[WiWavelength]

I'm fairly certain it's over 600. I don't have that information in front of me right now. Possibly a lot over 600. I'm not sure.

 

Are you trying to pick a fight? The Kansas market has about 600 sites. No way that the Missouri market beats the Kansas market.

 

 

AJ

[Dkoellerwx]

Are you trying to pick a fight? The Kansas market has about 600 sites. No way that the Missouri market beats the Kansas market.

 

 

AJ

 

Heh. It was a starting number in my head. Turns out to be a little over 750

 

[DaQue]

Heh. It was a starting number in my head. Turns out to be a little over 750

 

 

Wish I wouldn't have asked. Not that I know its 5 out of 750 seems like it got longer till I get LTE.

[sbolen]

Are you trying to pick a fight? The Kansas market has about 600 sites. No way that the Missouri market beats the Kansas market.

 

 

AJ

St. Louis probably needs 600 towers near Busch Stadium in the summer alone... getting a signal inside the stadium during a Cardinals game is brutal.

[DaQue]

 

St. Louis probably needs 600 towers near Busch Stadium in the summer alone... getting a signal inside the stadium during a Cardinals game is brutal.

 

Sounds like a good place for those micrcell things Clearwire wants to deploy, but that would take new phones not out yet to use them.

[sbolen]

Sounds like a good place for those micrcell things Clearwire wants to deploy, but that would take new phones not out yet to use them.

 

I think AT&T put some microcells around the stadium... I know USCC and AT&T (and maybe VZW, but I don't know) seem to roll out the microcells in Soulard during Mardi Gras because that's also a huge black hole of coverage with 100k+ people concentrated in like a 2 mile radius...

[cmill1023]

I'm thinking that having this far reach 4G signal at my house is actually worse than not at all because my battery dies really fast trying to pick up the weak signal and the 3G is actually faster because the signal is so faint

[S4GRU]

I'm thinking that having this far reach 4G signal at my house is actually worse than not at all because my battery dies really fast trying to pick up the weak signal and the 3G is actually faster because the signal is so faint

 

Yep, this will be your fate until you get a closer LTE site. Unless you go to CDMA mode.

 

Robert via Nexus 7 with Tapatalk HD

[doomstang]

I hope nobody plans on work getting done at towers today...this snow and ice storm is pretty big

[Nirav1983]

Site KC03RW412 (Neosho, MO 64850) Scheduled to be integrated next tuesday......

[cmill1023]

Why do they space the sites out so much instead of working one area at a time for dense coverage?

[Dkoellerwx]

Why do they space the sites out so much instead of working one area at a time for dense coverage?

 

Because, as we've said before on other parts of this site, they work on each site as soon as it's ready. Nirav may be able to speak to this more, but typically they want backhaul in place before they start work, and each site get's backhaul at a different time since that part of the process is out of Sprint's hands once they place the order.

[cmill1023]

 

 

Because, as we've said before on other parts of this site, they work on each site as soon as it's ready. Nirav may be able to speak to this more, but typically they want backhaul in place before they start work, and each site get's backhaul at a different time since that part of the process is out of Sprint's hands once they place the order.

 

Ok maybe a little extension of that if sprint is doing the ordering why don't they order cities to be done in a certain order instead of letting third parties run the show they're paying for

[S4GRU]

 

Ok maybe a little extension of that if sprint is doing the ordering why don't they order cities to be done in a certain order instead of letting third parties run the show they're paying for

 

I don't think you get it. They would love for places that have more customers to be done first. It's not because of third parties making decisions for them. However, if Sprint was able to pick and choose sites first, Joplin wouldn't be getting deployment at all now.

 

It's because there are sites ready in Joplin now is the reason why they are working there instead of St. Louis. You, of all people, should be glad they are deploying in ready order instead of the markets with the most customers. Because Joplin wouldn't even be on the radar.

 

And the bottom line is every site in the country needs to be upgraded. To say your site is more important than the customers in Neosho is a little elitist. People in St. Louis or NYC would probably say they should have service over you too.

 

Robert via Nexus 7 with Tapatalk HD

[cmill1023]

 

 

I don't think you get it. They would love for places that have more customers to be done first. It's not because of third parties making decisions for them. However, if Sprint was able to pick and choose sites first, Joplin wouldn't be getting deployment at all now.

 

It's because there are sites ready in Joplin now is the reason why they are working there instead of St. Louis. You, of all people, should be glad they are deploying in ready order instead of the markets with the most customers. Because Joplin wouldn't even be on the radar.

 

And the bottom line is every site in the country needs to be upgraded. To say your site is more important than the customers in Neosho is a little elitist. People in St. Louis or NYC would probably say they should have service over you too.

 

Robert via Nexus 7 with Tapatalk HD

 

Ok so you're actually misunderstanding my question it's not just Joplin or even by population or any city in particular it's more of a general understanding that if you're working in any city none in particular but why not make a city 100% upgraded before jumping around to others it seems like a waste of resources to keep leaving and coming back it's like going to Walmart with a shopping list of 20 items and making an individual trip for each item opposed to getting all the items in one trip, as for the Joplin comment and me being an elitist I never even brought up a particular place in my question as a matter of fact my dad lives in neosho so them getting 4G is actually good news I just don't understand the pinballing around all over the place

[S4GRU]

 

Ok so you're actually misunderstanding my question it's not just Joplin or even by population or any city in particular it's more of a general understanding that if you're working in any city none in particular but why not make a city 100% upgraded before jumping around to others it seems like a waste of resources to keep leaving and coming back it's like going to Walmart with a shopping list of 20 items and making an individual trip for each item opposed to getting all the items in one trip

 

Because not all the sites in a city are ready. If they wait on sites to be ready, it will take longer.

 

For instance, let's say the last site in the Joplin area will be ready on August 1st. If they wait to start your area on August 1st, they may be able to work more efficiently and be done with all the sites by September 30th. Yes, this is more efficient and probably will cost less money.

 

But Sprint is looking for the best results as soon as possible where customers can experience benefits and improvements now. Even if not everywhere all at once.

 

So what Sprint is doing is when each site in Joplin comes ready, they jump right on it. So on March 1st, they have 1/4 of the market covered, and on April 15th they have 1/2 covered and on June 15th, they are near 100% covered. Just waiting on the last site or two.

 

So, come August 1st, when the last site is ready, they already have coverage over the entire market. They just need to pick up that last site that is most likely just adding density to redundant coverage.

 

This is a much better solution than what you're suggesting. It creates a much faster deployment. And it actually will have customers happier. If they wait and leave Joplin on the legacy network until the end of September, the performance degrades more and more. And they would lose some more customers.

 

If customers see improvements every few weeks with more sites and it gets better and better, customers get happier and happier. Make them wait and they'll get angrier and angrier.

 

Additionally, it may seem inefficient to you. However, Sprint bid the work out this way. This is the way their contracts read. They work on each site when they're ready.

 

It appears that you want all your market to be done now, and that's the motivation for your comment. But in reality, if they had to do Joplin all at once, you would be waiting 6 more months. Enjoy your coverage. You are better off than 75% of Sprint customers in similar markets.

[cmill1023]

 

 

Because not all the sites in a city are ready. If they wait on sites to be ready, it will take longer.

 

For instance, let's say the last site in the Joplin area will be ready on August 1st. If they wait to start your area on August 1st, they may be able to work more efficiently and be done with all the sites by September 30th. Yes, this is more efficient and probably will cost less money.

 

But Sprint is looking for the best results as soon as possible where customers can experience benefits and improvements now. Even if not everywhere all at once.

 

So what Sprint is doing is when each site in Joplin comes ready, they jump right on it. So on March 1st, they have 1/4 of the market covered, and on April 15th they have 1/2 covered and on June 15th, they are near 100% covered. Just waiting on the last site or two.

 

So, come August 1st, when the last site is ready, they already have coverage over the entire market. They just need to pick up that last site that is most likely just adding density to redundant coverage.

 

This is a much better solution than what you're suggesting. It creates a much faster deployment. And it actually will have customers happier. If they wait and leave Joplin on the legacy network until the end of September, the performance degrades more and more. And they would lose some more customers.

 

If customers see improvements every few weeks with more sites and it gets better and better, customers get happier and happier. Make them wait and they'll get angrier and angrier.

 

Additionally, it may seem inefficient to you. However, Sprint bid the work out this way. This is the way their contracts read. They work on each site when they're ready.

 

It appears that you want all your market to be done now, and that's the motivation for your comment. But in reality, if they had to do Joplin all at once, you would be waiting 6 more months. Enjoy your coverage. You are better off than 75% of Sprint customers in similar markets.

 

My motivation for the comment was actually for the fact that it seems like degrading battery life for spotty coverage seemed like a worse trade off than a consistent experience I'm sorry you interpreted it that way that was not my intention

[S4GRU]

 

My motivation for the comment was actually for the fact that it seems like degrading battery life for spotty coverage seemed like a worse trade off than a consistent experienced I'm sorry you interpreted it that way

 

No need to be sorry. However, I'm willing to give up battery life for some LTE performance...especially over the legacy network. And what you're asking for isn't going to happen. I'm surprised that I haven't heard more complaints.

 

Your usage must be more sensitive to battery life than most of our members. Or there is something particular about the settings of your device that makes it more susceptible to battery life degradation. Are you running a custom ROM?

 

Robert via Nexus 7 with Tapatalk HD

[cmill1023]

 

 

No need to be sorry. However, I'm willing to give up battery life for some LTE performance...especially over the legacy network. And what you're asking for isn't going to happen. I'm surprised that I haven't heard more complaints.

 

Your usage must be more sensitive to battery life than most of our members. Or there is something particular about the settings of your device that makes it more susceptible to battery life degradation. Are you running a custom ROM?

 

Robert via Nexus 7 with Tapatalk HD

 

Not at all I'm all stock but my phone has had trouble connecting to 4G even when at the tower I haven't messed with any of the settings except putting the phone in LTE only mode to map when the first tower went live because my phone wouldn't pick it up otherwise then switched back to auto mode you think there's something wrong with the phone it is a refurb