Network Vision/LTE - East Michigan Market (Detroit/Flint/Ann Arbor/Tri-Cities)

[johngeos]

Site [site ID redacted] in Redford is broadcasting 4g. I mapped on Sensorly.

 

Also, I saw a crew start working on 42.31124752651582, -83.48781622439463 in Canton, MI today. They were digging a trench from the telephone lines to the cabinets below the transition lines with the antennas.

[Nekcohm]

Just drove by the tower at Grand Blanc Rd and I-75 and it appears NV panels have been installed on the Sprint rack. Can anyone in the Flint/Grand Blanc area confirm?

 

It's definitely not live yet. I drove by that tower this morning.

 

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[RCM]

It's definitely not live yet. I drove by that tower this morning.

 

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I'm looking to confirm the presence of nv panels.

[Chris**]

But what makes someone in Hart or Howell or Big Rapids or Clare or Outer Nowheresville less important than someone in Metro Detroit or other large metro area?

 

 

You're absolutely right, neither customer is more important. However, the economical impact is not quite as simple. Those 300 customers in Clare might be thrilled with their LTE... but the 300,000 in Metro Det, and the 30,000 in Saginaw Township, to Bay City, to Midland who aren't so thrilled... comprise of a lot more revenue stream for sprint than the few in the less dense population areas which are upgraded. I happen to have LTE in Midland, but prior to that... we have been dealing with sub 250k 3g which i called about every 2 weeks just to remind them. We were sold wimax phones as 4g, and also told they could be upgraded to support LTE at some point (Evo3D). The only wimax I ever saw was in Mt. Pleasant, and Outside Flint, which I maybe used twice total since 2010. People have been patient, I know I'll continue to be, as I have upgraded 5 lines in the last 3 months to Iphone 5's based on the LTE rollout I've seen so far.

 

That Said, do any of the sponsors have any recent info on towers on M-47 between Saginaw and Midland?

[hoagie]

42.36124407072333, -83.27875266996334 in Redford is broadcasting 4g. I mapped on Sensorly.

 

Also, I saw a crew start working on42.31124752651582, -83.48781622439463 in Canton, MI today. They were digging a trench from the telephone lines to the cabinets below the transition lines with the antennas.

 

FYI, Site IDs are not allowed outside of the sponser area, you'll need to edit your post.

[hoagie]

But what makes someone in Hart or Howell or Big Rapids or Clare or Outer Nowheresville less important than someone in Metro Detroit or other large metro area?

 

 

You're absolutely right, neither customer is more important. However, the economical impact is not quite as simple. Those 300 customers in Clare might be thrilled with their LTE... but the 300,000 in Metro Det, and the 30,000 in Saginaw Township, to Bay City, to Midland who aren't so thrilled... comprise of a lot more revenue stream for sprint than the few in the less dense population areas which are upgraded. I happen to have LTE in Midland, but prior to that... we have been dealing with sub 250k 3g which i called about every 2 weeks just to remind them. We were sold wimax phones as 4g, and also told they could be upgraded to support LTE at some point (Evo3D). The only wimax I ever saw was in Mt. Pleasant, and Outside Flint, which I maybe used twice total since 2010. People have been patient, I know I'll continue to be, as I have upgraded 5 lines in the last 3 months to Iphone 5's based on the LTE rollout I've seen so far.

 

 

Any further chatter would probably be best served by moving to a separate topic. It's not the focus of this thread.

[jefbal99]

 

That Said, do any of the sponsors have any recent info on towers on M-47 between Saginaw and Midland?

 

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[johngeos]

FYI, Site IDs are not allowed outside of the sponser area, you'll need to edit your post.

 

Sorry, in my haste in forgot to cut them out. Thanks who ever took it out.

[catejust]

Went back to work on my project and got the two bars of LTE on the rooftop again. Not really sure where the signal could be coming from since it's quite a ways away from the Plymouth and Ypsi sites

 

Can you get the signal strength in dB, it might give us a little better clue which tower it's coming from..

 

1) From the Phone app, dial *3001#12345#* and hit Talk

2) Once field test opens up, it'll show you the numeric signal strength instead of the bars

 

Then, if you want to keep it showing signal strength (until the next reboot)

3) Hold down the power button until it gives you the slide to power off screen

4) Instead of sliding to power off, just hold down the Home button until it takes you back to your home screen, then it'll keep the numeric signal strength up until next reboot

 

From the top of the parking garage on Thompson I was pulling 5.25Mbps down and 1.8Mbps up with a signal strength of -114dB (and that was connecting to either the tower across 94 from Briarwood or the one south of 94 on Platt).

[CouchFisher]

 

Can you get the signal strength in dB, it might give us a little better clue which tower it's coming from..

 

1) From the Phone app, dial *3001#12345#* and hit Talk

2) Once field test opens up, it'll show you the numeric signal strength instead of the bars

 

Then, if you want to keep it showing signal strength (until the next reboot)

3) Hold down the power button until it gives you the slide to power off screen

4) Instead of sliding to power off, just hold down the Home button until it takes you back to your home screen, then it'll keep the numeric signal strength up until next reboot

 

From the top of the parking garage on Thompson I was pulling 5.25Mbps down and 1.8Mbps up with a signal strength of -114dB (and that was connecting to either the tower across 94 from Briarwood or the one south of 94 on Platt).

 

I observe the tower located on the campus of Father Gabriel Richard, North of Plymouth Road and East of Dominos Farms. There has been no action. Once that is pushing 4G, North Campus should be good.

 

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[Chris**]

 

 

Sponsor data is not to be shared in public forums. Donate a few bucks and find the wealth of knowledge within.

 

I don't have the time to read everything in hindsight to get up to speed... In one sentence... What do I need to do to make donation and dive in head first? I am a quick study...

[lilotimz]

I don't have the time to read everything in hindsight to get up to speed... In one sentence... What do I need to do to make donation and dive in head first? I am a quick study...

 

On the top right of webpage when you're viewing "The Forums" should be a donate button.

 

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[Chris**]

So, donation is clearly in order... Im thinking 20-30 based on the info ive obtained prior to my reception of lte...is fair...

 

Are you guys really this dedicated? I presume sprint doesn't directly employ you...so I'll add this much. If sprint hired employees on the cust serv side who were about .001% committed as the crew on here.... They'd be on top of the fortune 500. The knowledge base alone, and the quality of information is light years above the 2nd or 3rd level of support sprint can supply.

[lilotimz]

So, donation is clearly in order... Im thinking 20-30 based on the info ive obtained prior to my reception of lte...is fair...

 

Are you guys really this dedicated? I presume sprint doesn't directly employ you...so I'll add this much. If sprint hired employees on the cust serv side who were about .001% committed as the crew on here.... They'd be on top of the fortune 500. The knowledge base alone, and the quality of information is light years above the 2nd or 3rd level of support sprint can supply.

 

We have maps of all 38,500+ cell sites in every Sprint market and we have a map with over 10,000 documented cell sites that have received some sort of network vision upgrade. Does that sound dedicated enough?

[Chris**]

U just struck a nerve. I need to see that info. I am embattled with my brother who has Verizon LTE. And pulls 55+mb everywhere. He has grandfathered unlimited for peanuts. I've been a huge proponent of sprint going on 8 years now. I was just told at sprint store that every Nextel tower is fully decommissioned by July 2013 and each tower will be converted, enhancing sprint's footprint. I need it on Higgins lake before Verizon... So I gotta see those maps and tower locations.

[Chris**]

100 bucks does it?

[lilotimz]

100 bucks does it?

 

$100 gets you a premier status where you get additional interactive maps with the original network vision deployment plan (from 2012) which gives a sense of how Sprint is expecting things to go but they're more of a guideline than actual plan nowadays. Other than that, you get a lot more other goodies that regular sponsors do not have, discussions on stuff, etc etc.

 

About the nextel decommissioning. To our knowledge, all Nextel iDen cell sites will be officially shut down on June 30th or around that date with only 100 being converted from iDen to Sprint NV. We do not know if there additional plans to expand as they can get quite pricey and we'll unlikely hear much about it til Softbank takes over and washes Sprint with the glorious wave of pure competitive vision ( and billions of dollars...) that many US corporations lack.

 

Edit: 12,500+ cell sites with Network Vision work on it and weekly updates by Robert (s4gru) that document how many sites received NV upgrades that week (about a thousand or so per week now).

 

Edit 2: Samsung contractors are slowly creeping down i75 towards higgins i think... (looks at the maps)

 

Edit 3: It seems that Higgins is just barely over the 100km exclusion zone with canada so you will likely see SMR 800 service for CDMA 1xV and LTE.

[Chris**]

So I just made a small donation... What does that entitle me to.. If anything? It was only 25 bucks...

[lilotimz]

So I just made a small donation... What does that entitle me to.. If anything? It was only 25 bucks...

 

Scroll all the way down to the "The S4GRU Club" and you'll have access to the Interactive S4GRU maps and S4GRU Sponsors forum. I think you'll like what you find inside of there.

[Chris**]

 

 

Scroll all the way down to the "The S4GRU Club" and you'll have access to the Interactive S4GRU maps and S4GRU Sponsors forum. I think you'll like what you find inside of there.

 

In what screen? I am not seeing anything...

 

[lilotimz]

Click on "The Forums" tab on the top left to get to the forum directory then scroll all the way down to the S4GRU sponsor area.

[RCM]

Decent signal from the site located between Hartland and Fenton on Parshallville Rd near US-23. Picked it up southbound 23 at Center Rd and carried it to Hartland. It's a little hilly towards Hartland so the signal was too weak to maintain lock down in the valleys. I got off the highway at M-59 but I think I could've carried the signal a little further south. Picked up the signal northbound 23 near the Clyde Rd exit and carried it just over the hill north of the Center Rd exit.

 

I am absolutely swamped with a final project for school else I would be mapping the heck out of that tower. In fact, I shouldn't even be spending time on this site since I need every minute I can. That's what late nights are for I suppose.

[Trucker29]

Here's a speed test while I was driving Southbound on US-23 just north of Clyde Rd this Morning.

[hoagie]

In what screen? I am not seeing anything...

You won't see it right away as Robert needs to do that manually.

[Overboost]

More LTE popped up in Taylor, specifically near Lakes of Taylor golf course.