Official Tmobile-Sprint merger discussion thread

[tyroned3222]

They better not slow network upgrades again. I don't see how that can survive that.

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They won't .. I think this is really It.. I think everyone on sprint will soon be be a TMO customer

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[Tengen31]

They won't .. I think this is really It.. I think everyone on sprint will soon be be a TMO customer

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Well that is up to the customer if the merger happens then people have the right to Port over to att or VZW.

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[NYC126]

Funny these talks just when the new quarter is about to start regarding spending over 6 billion on CAPEX.

 

Pink Mobile needs the 2.5ghz band for 5G and they are desperate for new spectrum.

[kg4icg]

And you guys are reacting  too market scuttlebutt, the last deal didn't go well because of tmobile, and it isn't happening now. 

[tyroned3222]

Funny these talks just when the new quarter is about to start regarding spending over 6 billion on CAPEX.
 
Pink Mobile needs the 2.5ghz band for 5G and they are desperate for new spectrum.

Right , we've had 20+ permits ready since September last year untouched as of yet ... This is softbank starting the talks again not TMO

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[NYC126]

Just now, tyroned3222 said:

Right , we've had 20+ permits ready since September last year untouched as of yet ... This is softbank starting the talks again not TMO

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Like I said Little Massa went on a spending spree for the last 3 years putting Softbank further in debt. Now the banks like Mizuho which I am very familiar with who happens to own a stake in Softbank wants them to unload unprofitable assets. 

 

Guenther leaving or kick out when he is more needed regarding the launch of Massive MIMO and 5G sent a red flag through my spine.

[kg4icg]

Tmobile is 30 billion in debt and less then 2 billion in cash on hand, so how is this merger talk going to happen, with unicorn horns and Fairey dust. Sprint 36 billion debt and over 6 billion in cash on hand. Then realize the cost of Reconfiguring, and you get nothing but headaches. Don't forget the spectrum financial plan that sprint just initiated to.  

[RedSpark]

2 minutes ago, kg4icg said:

Tmobile is 30 billion in debt and less then 2 billion in cash on hand, so how is this merger talk going to happen, with unicorn horns and Fairey dust. Sprint 36 billion debt and over 6 billion in cash on hand. Then realize the cost of Reconfiguring, and you get nothing but headaches. Don't forget the spectrum financial plan that sprint just initiated to.  

So who started this rumor... and why?

[Tengen31]

So who started this rumor... and why?

There is article from pointless BGR and then the wallstreet Journal online. Let hope to find out it's not true.

 

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[kg4icg]

Maybe someone wanting to profit in a short run up of stock, get a little profit taking to pay there tax bill due on the 15th, who knows. 

[Johnner1999]

Tmobile is 30 billion in debt and less then 2 billion in cash on hand, so how is this merger talk going to happen, with unicorn horns and Fairey dust. Sprint 36 billion debt and over 6 billion in cash on hand. Then realize the cost of Reconfiguring, and you get nothing but headaches. Don't forget the spectrum financial plan that sprint just initiated to.  

I think it’s well past who needs who more.

And the fact is....

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[Mercurial1]

Tmobile is 30 billion in debt and less then 2 billion in cash on hand, so how is this merger talk going to happen, with unicorn horns and Fairey dust. Sprint 36 billion debt and over 6 billion in cash on hand. Then realize the cost of Reconfiguring, and you get nothing but headaches. Don't forget the spectrum financial plan that sprint just initiated to.  

Wasn't the last deal all stock before it fell through?

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[SuzieTuesday]

Sprint Corp. and T-Mobile US Inc. have rekindled merger talks, people familiar with the matter said, as the wireless rivals explore a combination for the third time in four years.

The latest discussions come just five months after a previous courtship collapsed largely over who would control the combined firm. The talks also come in the midst of an antitrust fight between the U.S. government and AT&T Inc.

It is unclear what terms the two sides are considering, and it is possible, as before, that they could fail to reach an agreement. The latest discussions are at a preliminary stage, the people said.

The talks are complicated by the ownership of the two firms. Japanese telecom giant SoftBank Group Corp. owns nearly 85% of Sprint. Germany’s Deutsche Telekom AG controls T-Mobile, which is the larger company both in terms of subscribers and market value.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/sprint-t-mobile-restart-deal-talks-once-again-1523378376?mod=searchresults&page=1&pos=1

[tyroned3222]

There is article from pointless BGR and then the wallstreet Journal online. Let hope to find out it's not true. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

 

 

 

 

 

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Cnbc now too

 

[utiz4321]

20 minutes ago, SuzieTuesday said:

Sprint Corp. and T-Mobile US Inc. have rekindled merger talks, people familiar with the matter said, as the wireless rivals explore a combination for the third time in four years.

The latest discussions come just five months after a previous courtship collapsed largely over who would control the combined firm. The talks also come in the midst of an antitrust fight between the U.S. government and AT&T Inc.

It is unclear what terms the two sides are considering, and it is possible, as before, that they could fail to reach an agreement. The latest discussions are at a preliminary stage, the people said.

The talks are complicated by the ownership of the two firms. Japanese telecom giant SoftBank Group Corp. owns nearly 85% of Sprint. Germany’s Deutsche Telekom AG controls T-Mobile, which is the larger company both in terms of subscribers and market value.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/sprint-t-mobile-restart-deal-talks-once-again-1523378376?mod=searchresults&page=1&pos=1

Well, if they become advanced look for CAPEX to be slashed yet again. I have been a big proponent of this merger but this start and stop BS is really hurting sprint. 

[utiz4321]

One thing I regret was not buying more sprint stock yesterday, 17 percent bounce on the news. 

[BlueAngel]

Ugh at this point I don't want this to happen, just gonna put a further hold on the upgrades Sprint has planned.

[Tengen31]

Ugh at this point I don't want this to happen, just gonna put a further hold on the upgrades Sprint has planned.

It better not.

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[NYC126]

According to the Financial Times Softbank was the one that started the talks about a merger again. So it seems that since Softbank has over 135 billions in debt that the board is forcing little Massa to sell unprofitable assets. They will unload Sprint to T-Mobile and they will be happy to take 25% in a combined company.

[IamMrFamous07]

30 minutes ago, SprintNYC said:

According to the Financial Times Softbank was the one that started the talks about a merger again. So it seems that since Softbank has over 135 billions in debt that the board is forcing little Massa to sell unprofitable assets. They will unload Sprint to T-Mobile and they will be happy to take 25% in a combined company.

Interesting. I guess the 3rd/4th time might be the charm. I seriously loss count lol

[BlueAngel]

1 hour ago, IamMrFamous07 said:

Interesting. I guess the 3rd/4th time might be the charm. I seriously loss count lol

I hate the fact that we might share the same place as tmobile fanboys, they're the worst. That's why I would never switch to tmobile.

[MrZorbatron]

If it happens, I am going to Verizon.  T-Mobile has always been very shady in my eyes.  I have yet to see a case where their coverage matches Sprint's in a major area, regardless of maps and fanboys.  Data speeds are all fine and good, but you don't really need insane speeds to a mobile device most of the time.  10 Mbps is more than adequate, and I get much more than that on Sprint as it is.

[Arysyn]

Well, I've decided I'm officially in support of this merger. This doesn't mean I don't still support the idea of Sprint building its network by means of densification and deployment strategies, but its been clear to me for a while now that Softbank doesn't really want to spend the Capex for Sprint to grow and would much rather have the combination with T-Mobile.

My decision to fully support this has more to do with my subscription. I'd love to have Sprint's improved service here in Chicago, but T-Mobile is a bit cheaper and has the huge 600mhz spectrum coming up. I also wouldn't mind going back to AT&T because the phones I want from them happen to also support FirstNet, besides being the rugged kind of phone I prefer, but AT&T is much more expensive than what my mother is paying for T-Mobile.

If the merger goes through, it'll end all thoughts of switching, as we'll have access to plenty of spectrum on a great pricing deal. I still have the Microsoft Lumia 950xl I really want to upgrade to iPhone or Android, but waiting on the carrier decision has been difficult. Other than the subscription reason though, I also don't see anything wrong with the merger happening, so might as well. Still, I don't at all doubt Sprint could be great on its own if it were properly funded and supported. Thing is though, it isn't, and the reality is that T-Mobile will do more good for Sprint customers than Softbank is doing.

[IamMrFamous07]

5 hours ago, Arysyn said:

Well, I've decided I'm officially in support of this merger. This doesn't mean I don't still support the idea of Sprint building its network by means of densification and deployment strategies, but its been clear to me for a while now that Softbank doesn't really want to spend the Capex for Sprint to grow and would much rather have the combination with T-Mobile.

My decision to fully support this has more to do with my subscription. I'd love to have Sprint's improved service here in Chicago, but T-Mobile is a bit cheaper and has the huge 600mhz spectrum coming up. I also wouldn't mind going back to AT&T because the phones I want from them happen to also support FirstNet, besides being the rugged kind of phone I prefer, but AT&T is much more expensive than what my mother is paying for T-Mobile.

If the merger goes through, it'll end all thoughts of switching, as we'll have access to plenty of spectrum on a great pricing deal. I still have the Microsoft Lumia 950xl I really want to upgrade to iPhone or Android, but waiting on the carrier decision has been difficult. Other than the subscription reason though, I also don't see anything wrong with the merger happening, so might as well. Still, I don't at all doubt Sprint could be great on its own if it were properly funded and supported. Thing is though, it isn't, and the reality is that T-Mobile will do more good for Sprint customers than Softbank is doing.

That’s true. SoftBank is so wishy washy. This merger plus the cable partnerships from Altice and Cox will be huge. Hopefully Dish is somehow included.

i would assume Leger will be the CEO of the merger goes through, and Marcelo will likely be board of director.

im all for a device that has 600/700/800/AWS/PCS/2.5/ and MMwave lol

[Arysyn]

1 hour ago, IamMrFamous07 said:

That’s true. SoftBank is so wishy washy. This merger plus the cable partnerships from Altice and Cox will be huge. Hopefully Dish is somehow included.

i would assume Leger will be the CEO of the merger goes through, and Marcelo will likely be board of director.

im all for a device that has 600/700/800/AWS/PCS/2.5/ and MMwave lol

I've been very supportive of either a Dish merger with Sprint or with T-Mobile, though as a TMo subscriber I prefer they merge with Dish, in which case they wouldn't necessarily need to merge with Sprint. If that were to happen, I think US Cellular would be a good buyout for Sprint. However since this Sprint/T-Mobile merger just isn't going away and I think third time is a charm here for them, I'd love for the combo to then pick up Dish.

A combined T-Mobile/Sprint/Dish would be absolutely amazing for customers of Sprint and T-Mobile. It would bring up the minimum 600mhz from 10x10 to 15x15, while 20x20 would be in a bunch of areas. I'd really like to see a bunch of trade deals and other negotiations done where T-Mobile could try to get 20x20 at least near nationwide, even if it means swapping out other existing low-band.

That is something I think would become more likely to happen (these trade deals), with fewer carriers working more towards improving networks, rather than pricing wars, etc. Imagining a solid low-band network combined with Sprint's excellent band 41 which T-Mobile surely will densify/deploy much faster than Softbank, is really an amazing thought.

I know a bunch of us here on S4GRU would really like for Sprint to do well on its own with massive deployment and densification. I understand that and would like to see that too. However at this point with all the delays with Softbank seemingly more interested in a merger while investing billions of dollars in other companies rather than on Sprint, how much faith can be left for us in Softbank doing what many of us feel us the "right thing" by spending on Sprint.

I'm not a fan of T-Mobile, nor of John Legere, but at least they get stuff done. The T-Mobile network is improving rapidly and with Sprint's spectrum, they will make an awesome network. The track record for T-Mobile already is there, and its pretty great. Not so much with Softbank. Again, Sprint itself has so much potential - no denying that, but Softbank is stalling it. Sprint's only viable option now in regards to having any hope in being run by a company that would actually care for it, is T-Mobile, and is unlikely we'd ever see Softbank divest in Sprint to be on its own. So really, at least in most ways, the T-Mobile/Sprint merger is quite a good thing.

Sorry about the post length. Alot to say about this.