Sprint to join Rural Operators Roaming Hub (CCA and RRPP thread)

[bretton88]

NetAmerica, LLC, the roaming hub enabler/broker is in negotiations with 40 more carriers. This LTE roaming thing has legs.

Please be US Cellular as one of them. I wonder what the holdup is.

[ahecht]

So is this one of the rare cases where a PRL update could improve signal strength, or is LTE roaming not controlled by the PRL?

[IamMrFamous07]

NetAmerica, LLC, the roaming hub enabler/broker is in negotiations with 40 more carriers. This LTE roaming thing has legs.

Source?

[dmchssc]

PRLs only affect 1x and EVDO with the exception of some of Sprint's first LTE phones. Roaming for 3GPP networks is directed by the networks, not the device.

[bigsnake49]

Source?

"NetAmerica says it has completed preliminary agreements with 14 companies and is in talks with around 40 more in 12 states."

 

http://www.lightreading.com/mobile/4g-lte/sprint-adds-first-12-lte-rural-roaming-partners/d/d-id/709479?

[Fraydog]

It also mentions that T-Mobile is a likely future member of the hub as well. Makes sense because B12 roaming helps them out.

[WiWavelength]

i hope they count the lte as native with those partners. Otherwise, why show the coverage if your limited to 100mb or 300mb (depending on plan) ? especially on LTE 

 

Meh.  Too many of you act as if you would even touch your handset on roaming LTE, then you would blow through your roaming data allotment.  Not the case.  But roaming LTE would provide advantages for even light, everyday uses, such as Web browsing, e-mail, etc.

 

AJ

[JeffDTD]

Meh. Too many of you act as if you would even touch your handset on roaming LTE, then you would blow through your roaming data allotment. Not the case. But roaming LTE would provide advantages for even light, everyday uses, such as Web browsing, e-mail, etc.

 

AJ

Agree. Id be satisfied with a full speed roaming cap and heavy throttling or a toss back to 1x after that.

 

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[WiWavelength]

Agree. Id be satisfied with a full speed roaming cap and heavy throttling or a toss back to 1x after that.

 

On "unlimited" data, a roaming cap is required because we have a lot of people whose attitude toward wireless data is the proverbial "if possible, then necessary."  If LTE is available, they have to use it out the wazoo.  Cannot…resist…streaming audio…watching video…and downloading...large files.

 

Ah, but they can resist.  They just choose not to exercise self restraint.  So, a roaming cap effectively imposes it for them.

 

AJ

[Fraydog]

A roaming cap should provide a reasonable amount of data for the LTE age. Say, Sprint and other providers provide 1GB of roaming over LTE. Anything over that gets throttled to 256 Kbps. Want more high-speed data? You can buy another LTE bucket of 1GB for $10. Simple pricing for roaming even a technical retard can understand.

[marioc21]

A roaming cap should provide a reasonable amount of data for the LTE age. Say, Sprint and other providers provide 1GB of roaming over LTE. Anything over that gets throttled to 256 Kbps. Want more high-speed data? You can buy another LTE bucket of 1GB for $10. Simple pricing for roaming even a technical retard can understand.

 

My only quibble is for those on already capped plans like Framily.  Roaming should simply be part of the cap.  If you only have a 1gb of data in total then roaming data should just be part of it.  

[Fraydog]

My only quibble is for those on already capped plans like Framily. Roaming should simply be part of the cap. If you only have a 1gb of data in total then roaming data should just be part of it.

In the 1GB plans it would be. In 3 GB and Unlimited plans it would be at the 1 GB mark.

[lordsutch]

On "unlimited" data, a roaming cap is required because we have a lot of people whose attitude toward wireless data is the proverbial "if possible, then necessary."  If LTE is available, they have to use it out the wazoo.  Cannot…resist…streaming audio…watching video…and downloading...large files.

 

Ah, but they can resist.  They just choose not to exercise self restraint.  So, a roaming cap effectively imposes it for them.

 

My only critique of this argument is that devices can consume a lot of background data without the user knowing it, particularly since Android by default doesn't have any settings that allow fine-grained control of what happens while roaming versus native, just the global "data roaming" and "background data" settings. AFAICS you can't even set a hard data limit on roaming, just overall mobile usage. Maybe some manufacturer skins do better in this regard.

[EvanA]

Who's to say this will be treated as pure roaming like CDMA roaming currently is? I'm betting this will be native coverage, especially since the companies in the announcement will be able to deploy on Sprint spectrum

 

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[lilotimz]

A little bird told me of an even bigger announcement come mid summer that many have wanted for over a decade.

 

[uecker87]

A little bird told me of an even bigger announcement come mid summer that many have wanted for over a decade.

 

 

USCC LTE roaming treated as native?...  

 

Although, I guess that isn't something we could have wanted for over a decade since LTE wasn't around then.  

 

Edit:  In case anyone can't tell...  I really want USCC LTE roaming.  

[travismheim]

My only critique of this argument is that devices can consume a lot of background data without the user knowing it, particularly since Android by default doesn't have any settings that allow fine-grained control of what happens while roaming versus native, just the global "data roaming" and "background data" settings. AFAICS you can't even set a hard data limit on roaming, just overall mobile usage. Maybe some manufacturer skins do better in this regard.

What besides application updates from Google Play are going to get you anywhere near the current 100MB - 300MB roaming limit without any user knowledge? I get maybe 100-200MB of total background data use for an entire month, I don't see the roaming limit being much of a problem unless you are streaming or purposely downloading files.

[Fraydog]

USCC buyout would be my hope, but what do I know.

[lilotimz]

USCC buyout would be my hope, but what do I know.

 

[dnicekid]

Assuming the merger is passed, with a full net america(55+ carriers) would this be what  son needs to Market the new Sprint/Tmo as bigger/better than the other 2?? Coverage wise that should be a very large area... 

[Paynefanbro]

A little bird told me of an even bigger announcement come mid summer that many have wanted for over a decade.

 

 

You just made my heart skip a beat.

[bigsnake49]

USCC buyout would be my hope, but what do I know.

I have been wanting that for more than a decade, make it 15 years. In order of priority here is my wishful thinking list:

 

1. Completion band 25+26 buildout by end of 2015, period, end of story, no freaking excuses

2. USCC + CSpire buyout

3. 10MHz+10Mhz of 800MHz SMR with no IBEZ restrictions

4. Approval of the T-Mobile/Sprint merger

Edited June 17, 2014 by bigsnake49

[CaptainSlow]

A little bird told me of an even bigger announcement come mid summer that many have wanted for over a decade.

 

...announce a replacement for the coverage maps tool with something that belongs to...this decade?

[WiWavelength]

My only quibble is for those on already capped plans like Framily.  Roaming should simply be part of the cap.  If you only have a 1gb of data in total then roaming data should just be part of it.  

 

If people want all of a 1 GB quota to be usable for roaming, then they may need to be prepared to pay more for that 1 GB quota.

 

AJ

[WiWavelength]

Who's to say this will be treated as pure roaming like CDMA roaming currently is? I'm betting this will be native coverage, especially since the companies in the announcement will be able to deploy on Sprint spectrum

 

"Unlimited" data with uncapped roaming does not work.  Users can then arbitrage the system, for example, paying Sprint Framily rates and having access to better Sprint devices but living permanently in USCC native coverage.  This happened frequently with Sprint affiliates and Rural Alliance partners.  Such situations were not good for Sprint nor for affiliates/partners.

 

AJ