Network Vision/LTE - Lower Central Valley Market (Fresno, Bakersfield, Visalia)

[Oedipus]

Based on all of the driving I've been doing to keep track of all of this stuff, much of it in areas I rarely or never would go to otherwise, I think my way is harder. It is more satisfying, though.

 

I'm not sure what the breakdown is on fresno's progress. Maybe 25%?

[MacinJosh]

Based on all of the driving I've been doing to keep track of all of this stuff, much of it in areas I rarely or never would go to otherwise, I think my way is harder. It is more satisfying, though.

 

I'm not sure what the breakdown is on fresno's progress. Maybe 25%?

 

Ok. Just figured I'd check. 25% is a whole lot better than a few months ago, that's for sure.

[AcctDeleted_ArcFlash]

How about that, I just point out that Sprint has treated Fresno like a stepchild, and I get trashed for saying so.  LTE will not be coming to Fresno anytime soon, so keep dreaming.  I gots Wimax, and yes, there is just one tower available.  Says much about Sprint.

[AcctDeleted_ArcFlash]

Thinks about it, how long does it take to upgrade a cell tower?  Hell, 3G sucks and it has been on for years.  My guess is that you will only be able to connect to LTE if you are standing under a tower, or you tether off your friend's other carrier  phone. 

[Oedipus]

Up until about 10 weeks ago, there was only 1 site in Fresno that had upgraded hardware. Now there's a bunch. You really have three options, in order of preference:

 

1. Pay attention to what I'm reporting, because clearly I'm the only one in the Fresno area who gives a shit and is willing to go out and investigate.

 

2. Stay at home and be positive.

 

3. Leave, change carriers, whatever. It's one less user.

[Dkoellerwx]

Thinks about it, how long does it take to upgrade a cell tower?  Hell, 3G sucks and it has been on for years.  My guess is that you will only be able to connect to LTE if you are standing under a tower, or you tether off your friend's other carrier  phone. 

 

The WiMax rollout never reached Fresno. It was out of Sprint's control, Clearwire went bankrupt and had to pull things to a screeching hault. Trying to compare WiMax and the LTE rollout is like trying to compare apples to The Big Apple. It doesn't make sense.

 

Sprint is upgrading it's entire network. Some areas are taking longer than others. It sounds like once Sprint got all the government paperwork out of the way, they are moving quickly now in Fresno to get things upgraded. Unfortunately, they can't start turning on LTE until all the towers are completed. 

 

Once it is done, there will be a solid blanket of LTE. You won't have to "stand under a tower" or "tether off your friends" to get a good signal.

 

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[MacinJosh]

How about that, I just point out that Sprint has treated Fresno like a stepchild, and I get trashed for saying so.  LTE will not be coming to Fresno anytime soon, so keep dreaming.  I gots Wimax, and yes, there is just one tower available.  Says much about Sprint.

 

You don't seem to understand the bureaucratic red tape that carriers have to jump through in order to get permits for stuff like this. Many cities don't like cell towers because they are "grotesque" in visual appearance compared to a standard city skyline. In those cities, there is more red tape to fight with, and extra engineering that has to take place in order to secure the permits necessary. Take Henderson, NV for example. They hate cell towers, and many of them are "stealth" sites that have to be done a certain way, i.e. monopalm, monopine, "flagpole". So you see, Fresno is one of those picky cities, and as Oedipus has posted many pictures of, the RRU's are on racks by the equipment cabinets because of the extra expense of making fake trees bigger or flagpoles that can't fit the RRU's.

[bm92708]

You don't seem to understand the bureaucratic red tape that carriers have to jump through in order to get permits for stuff like this. Many cities don't like cell towers because they are "grotesque" in visual appearance compared to a standard city skyline. In those cities, there is more red tape to fight with, and extra engineering that has to take place in order to secure the permits necessary. Take Henderson, NV for example. They hate cell towers, and many of them are "stealth" sites that have to be done a certain way, i.e. monopalm, monopine, "flagpole". So you see, Fresno is one of those picky cities, and as Oedipus has posted many pictures of, the RRU's are on racks by the equipment cabinets because of the extra expense of making fake trees bigger or flagpoles that can't fit the RRU's.

Yep, that's Fresno!  We can have downtown continue to look like hell because of old laws, bridges from the freeways to roads going no where except to homeless encampments, prostitutes and their pimps taking over strips of motels, but HEAVEN FORBID WE HAVE "UGLY" LOOKING CELL TOWERS!!  

[jamesinclair]

You don't seem to understand the bureaucratic red tape that carriers have to jump through in order to get permits for stuff like this. Many cities don't like cell towers because they are "grotesque" in visual appearance compared to a standard city skyline. In those cities, there is more red tape to fight with, and extra engineering that has to take place in order to secure the permits necessary. Take Henderson, NV for example. They hate cell towers, and many of them are "stealth" sites that have to be done a certain way, i.e. monopalm, monopine, "flagpole". So you see, Fresno is one of those picky cities, and as Oedipus has posted many pictures of, the RRU's are on racks by the equipment cabinets because of the extra expense of making fake trees bigger or flagpoles that can't fit the RRU's.

 

Id buy that if everyone but Fresno launched, but the entire Fresno circle, ie, the area one contractor gets, has not launched.

 

The problem is the contractor, not just the city. Unless youre claiming that Freno, Clovis, and the county are all conspiring to fail.

 

I think it's fair to say that the local contractor is a dud. Is there any other major city where not even a single 3G upgrade has been launched? Thats not a backhaul issue, thats incompetence.

[Oedipus]

For what it's worth, there's at least two contractor companies that are doing the fresno/clovis work; caltrop and cba site services.

[MacinJosh]

The problem is the contractor, not just the city. Unless youre claiming that Freno, Clovis, and the county are all conspiring to fail.

Freno? Is that the Fresno version of Keno?

 

Clovis isn't part of this, nor is Fresno county. But I do think there is a conspiracy with the city of Fresno. Maybe they were all replaced by evil space aliens paid by AT&T and/or Verizon to stop Sprint from doing the work.

 

 

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[Dkoellerwx]

Id buy that if everyone but Fresno launched, but the entire Fresno circle, ie, the area one contractor gets, has not launched.

 

The problem is the contractor, not just the city. Unless youre claiming that Freno, Clovis, and the county are all conspiring to fail.

 

I think it's fair to say that the local contractor is a dud. Is there any other major city where not even a single 3G upgrade has been launched? Thats not a backhaul issue, thats incompetence.

Chico, Redding, Sacramento.... and yes, some of the blame falls on the contractor as well. At least one of them working in California had to be fired. So it's possible that played into things as well as the impossible government hurdles.

[lilotimz]

Chico, Redding, Sacramento.... and yes, some of the blame falls on the contractor as well. At least one of them working in California had to be fired. So it's possible that played into things as well as the impossible government hurdles.

Sprint has contractors here? They must be ninjas as I haven't seen any.

 

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[MacinJosh]

Sprint has contractors here? They must be ninjas as I haven't seen any.

 

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[jamesinclair]

Chico, Redding, Sacramento.... and yes, some of the blame falls on the contractor as well. At least one of them working in California had to be fired. So it's possible that played into things as well as the impossible government hurdles.

 

According to the map, Sacramento at least has a 3G NV site, so their contractor at least managed to connect some wires together.

[Dkoellerwx]

According to the map, Sacramento at least has a 3G NV site, so their contractor at least managed to connect some wires together.

 

A new site I believe. But otherwise, there has been nothing happening there since last summer. Tim can elaborate if you want.

[lilotimz]

A new site I believe. But otherwise, there has been nothing happening there since last summer. Tim can elaborate if you want.

The last site accepted in the Sacramento area other than the elk Grove cluster happened 10 months ago.

 

The lone 3g accepted site I believe is a mistake.

 

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[jamesinclair]

The last site accepted in the Sacramento area other than the elk Grove cluster happened 10 months ago.

 

The lone 3g accepted site I believe is a mistake.

 

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Oh a mistake?

 

I guess we're both right. I was correct in saying no other major city was so far behind, and he was correct in pointing out those cow towns.

 

[Mikeclar]

I've definitely seen work going on in Fresno/Clovis but no obvious imiprovement. It does seem consistently less sucky though in most parts of the city. Tonight I had 1x though for about an hour (no 3G) at my house. Hopefully that might be a sign they are working on something but ..... that's happened a lot in the past, just not for awhile. 

[lilotimz]

I've definitely seen work going on in Fresno/Clovis but no obvious imiprovement. It does seem consistently less sucky though in most parts of the city. Tonight I had 1x though for about an hour (no 3G) at my house. Hopefully that might be a sign they are working on something but ..... that's happened a lot in the past, just not for awhile. 

 

At a lot of the sites where Sprint upgraded, the structures were so weak that they often had to do hot swaps so at some places network vision equipment is actually running. 

[jamesinclair]

At a lot of the sites where Sprint upgraded, the structures were so weak that they often had to do hot swaps so at some places network vision equipment is actually running. 

 

When does Sprint look into leasing at better towers? Is that not part of NV?

 

If your pole is leaning and cant hold the quipment, maybe its time to find a new pole...

[bjarabian]

Based on all of the driving I've been doing to keep track of all of this stuff, much of it in areas I rarely or never would go to otherwise, I think my way is harder. It is more satisfying, though.

 

I'm not sure what the breakdown is on fresno's progress. Maybe 25%?

I would say about a third of West Fresno.

[Mikeclar]

WOW! This is going to be awhile, but worth it, having tried it in the Bay Area and LA/OC. The difference is incredible!

[bm92708]

Spoke with a customer service rep today about Kerman's tower and she said it is scheduled to be finished in July along with some of the other towers on the west side. Take the info for what it's worth. I'm just glad they are not finished with the Kerman tower because lately the service has not been good!