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Sorry about that...

 

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Are you still sorry, deeply sorry, sorry again?  What are you, BP?

 

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AL And MS coverage still blows Im ready to see both tmobile and sprint at 300million pops of coverage on 4g lte. 

 

Eh, LTE is overrated. Let's get voice and EVDO coverage there first.

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Eh, LTE is overrated. Let's get voice and EVDO coverage there first.

true. on sprint coverage map it shows the 3g 4-5 miles short of me but I get 1-2bars of 3g sometimes I think they underestimate their coverage.

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true. on sprint coverage map it shows the 3g 4-5 miles short of me but I get 1-2bars of 3g sometimes I think they underestimate their coverage.

 

That's what they need to get first. LTE can come later, but solid EVDO is a good baseline to have.

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As a New Yorker, I don't get this.

 

I do not get it either.  And I do not think that grndslm got my former BP CEO Tony Hayward reference.  But what I do get is that grndslm tried twice, still did not manage to post a working image, and never fixed the broken posts.

 

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I don't know of too many file hosting sites that don't have limits on what can be posted.

 

In my last post that that included the image, I can see the image just fine.  In WiWavelength's quote of my post, I can ALSO see the image clear as day.  Not sure why I can see it embedded in the posts and others can't.  Doesn't make sense.

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I don't know of too many file hosting sites that don't have limits on what can be posted.

 

In my last post that that included the image, I can see the image just fine.  In WiWavelength's quote of my post, I can ALSO see the image clear as day.  Not sure why I can see it embedded in the posts and others can't.  Doesn't make sense.

 

S4GRU allows standard image file extensions -- anything beyond that in the URL will not work.

 

Additionally, many members use TinyPic and Imgur with no problems.

 

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I don't know of too many file hosting sites that don't have limits on what can be posted.

 

In my last post that that included the image, I can see the image just fine.  In WiWavelength's quote of my post, I can ALSO see the image clear as day.  Not sure why I can see it embedded in the posts and others can't.  Doesn't make sense.

 

Maybe you need to be logged in to your account to see the posts... as AJ said, there are many different hosting sites that work just fine. Dropbox, Imgur, Photobucket... just to name a few.

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You care to add the "native" 3G roaming?

 

When Sprint actually adds pseudo-native EVDO to the map, it will show up as dark purple, just like regular EVDO. Right now there is no way to distinguish between pseudo-native EVDO and roaming EVDO.

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On Sprint's coverage map, if you change "Sprint Spark" to "3G and More" it will give you two shades of dark purple.

 

Correct. That second shade of dark purple is EVDO roaming. It does not denote areas that are pseudo-native. The light shade of roaming is 1x roaming.

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Correct. That second shade of dark purple is EVDO roaming. It does not denote areas that are pseudo-native. The light shade of roaming is 1x roaming.

What isn't pseduo-native?  From what I have been able to gather so far, it is treated as native.

 

What all of those then are still roaming, and not psedo-native?  Maybe just add the ones that are confirmed psedo-native so far then?  Seems like in the PRL Update thread that a handful out west are.  I know Bluegrass is here on the East side. 

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What isn't pseduo-native?  From what I have been able to gather so far, it is treated as native.

 

What all of those then are still roaming, and not psedo-native?  Maybe just add the ones that are confirmed psedo-native so far then?  Seems like in the PRL Update thread that a handful out west are.  I know Bluegrass is here on the East side. 

 

At this point, many of the EVDO roaming areas (the second shade of dark purple) are now showing up as native EVDO for Sprint users. However, the map has not been updated to reflect that yet. We cannot treat every EVDO roaming spot as native yet. Not until Sprint updates the map to differentiate between the pseudo-native coverage and roaming coverage.

 

 

I can tell you that Aberdeen, SD 3G and more is native.

 

Yes, but the map does not reflect that yet. I think we've confirmed a number of roaming partners are now native, but Sprint does not show that yet.

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