Marcelo Claure, Town Hall Meetings, New Family Share Pack Plan, Unlimited Individual Plan, Discussion Thread

[Ascertion]

So..I was eligible for an upgrade since May, and now my line shows 12/1/2016 as my upgrade date???!  Has this happened to anyone else?  

[darrelldwllms]

Sprint and its Sub Brands were offline

 

But I did notice the All In Ad was taking off, could it been a flop?

 

 

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Edited July 19, 2015 by darrelldwllms

[nexgencpu]

This was a scheduled maintenance, I did receive an email for this..

[WiWavelength]

So..I was eligible for an upgrade since May, and now my line shows 12/1/2016 as my upgrade date???!  Has this happened to anyone else?  

 

Sprint changed subsidized upgrade eligibility from 20 months to 24 months.

 

AJ

[Ascertion]

Sprint changed subsidized upgrade eligibility from 20 months to 24 months.

 

AJ

True, but this bumped it back more than a year! And I was eligible for an upgrade since May of this year (never used it.). Guess I'll give CS a call.

 

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[travismheim]

 

does Budweiser give people free beer? does Subway give away free subs? "Oh, oh, please, take my $10. I don't want it. It's yours."

 

T-Mobile is the only carrier throwing in tethering, it's not an industry trend, and it's because Legere is the candy man. tethering isn't going to change anyone's mind about which carrier they're going to use. I would be all for CHEAPER tethering and/or bigger pools of data, or throwing it in on Boost or Virgin plans, but throwing it in for free on Sprint is just throwing money away.

 

A base amount of tethering, say for example 1GB would still be nice. They can add it to newer unsubsidized plans to help coax subscribers off legacy plans. If/when Sprint offers a single line plan that is not unlimited, I hope that tethering is included in the data bucket like it is for family share.

 

On Framily, even with the 1GB or 3GB data buckets tethering is still an add on which is actually a different data bucket from the regular data in the plan. For my tablet plan, tethering is also an additional add on with a different data bucket instead of letting me use my data bucket how I see fit. Adding tethering can also reduce the allure to use root to gain access to tethering and using unlimited plans against the terms of service.

[dnicekid]

 

 

does Budweiser give people free beer? does Subway give away free subs? "Oh, oh, please, take my $10. I don't want it. It's yours."

 

T-Mobile is the only carrier throwing in tethering, it's not an industry trend, and it's because Legere is the candy man. tethering isn't going to change anyone's mind about which carrier they're going to use. I would be all for CHEAPER tethering and/or bigger pools of data, or throwing it in on Boost or Virgin plans, but throwing it in for free on Sprint is just throwing money away.

Yes they do give away free beer and subway gives grinders away. It's a way of advertising their product.

 

Cutting bills in half and waiving fees and buying out contracts is throwing much more money away then offering some tethering.

[Arysyn]

 

This is the type of candyman I think Legere is most like

John Legere reminds me more like Willy Wonka, a version cross between Gene Wilder and Johnny Depp. Although less intelligent but more mad. Thank goodness we haven't heard him sing, well at least yet so far.

[Arysyn]

Yes they do give away free beer and subway gives grinders away. It's a way of advertising their product.

 

Cutting bills in half and waiving fees and buying out contracts is throwing much more money away then offering some tethering.

The cut your bill in half promotion really isn't costing Sprint money though, nor is it giving something away, as it is simply a custom rate plan designed to get people to switch to Sprint, something which in many cases has been shown to cost more than some of Sprint's other plans.

 

For instance, the 15gb plan with Verizon at $100, with Sprint would be $50, plus if Sprint counts in the $15 line fee for one line, then half that would be $57.50 monthly, or if Sprint just counts the discount on the plan but not the line, then the 15gb plan on Sprint with one line, is $65 monthly. That is $5 more than Sprint's unlimited plan.

[derrph]

 

So this image was floating around my feed on Instagram by a few of my followers. I think it's crazy yet kinda funny that there is a "label" based on what carrier you have. To me I don't think there's a "look" or whatever you want to call it because you have carrier x, y or z.

 

 

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[dnicekid]

The cut your bill in half promotion really isn't costing Sprint money though, nor is it giving something away, as it is simply a custom rate plan designed to get people to switch to Sprint, something which in many cases has been shown to cost more than some of Sprint's other plans.

 

For instance, the 15gb plan with Verizon at $100, with Sprint would be $50, plus if Sprint counts in the $15 line fee for one line, then half that would be $57.50 monthly, or if Sprint just counts the discount on the plan but not the line, then the 15gb plan on Sprint with one line, is $65 monthly. That is $5 moroe than Sprint's unlimited plan.

Don't new customers get fees waived?

A few $ less or more than unlimited for more phones than the single ul plan. Cut your bill in half is a lot cheaper than my sprint family plan. That means they are losing potential income if mine is ~$150 and a new customer is ~$60... About $90 bucks.. So giving someone 2gb or charging a reasonable rate for tethering as an add on to a ul plan doesn't seem to be any worse than what they are doing.

[kg4icg]

But for $100, Sprint gives you family share 20gb which has hotspot and tethering included plus if you get a corporate discount with sprint in which mine is 23%, my bill for 2 phones is $107 a month. It's already there, you just have to take the time and pay attention and look.

[JonnygATL]

So this image was floating around my feed on Instagram by a few of my followers. I think it's crazy yet kinda funny that there is a "label" based on what carrier you have. To me I don't think there's a "look" or whatever you want to call it because you have carrier x, y or z.

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Personally, I think this is absolutely hilarious! ..totally stealing and posting on my fb wall!

[sbolen]

But for $100, Sprint gives you family share 20gb which has hotspot and tethering included plus if you get a corporate discount with sprint in which mine is 23%, my bill for 2 phones is $107 a month. It's already there, you just have to take the time and pay attention and look.

And that was doubled for a promotion, wasn't it? I remember at some point seeing double data for the plan earlier in Claure's tenure.

[kg4icg]

Yes I'm still showing the 40gb on my account.

[sbolen]

Yes I'm still showing the 40gb on my account.

For all intents and purposes, that's unlimited. Trying my hardest, I doubt I could use 20GB alone, and my wife uses at most 3GB. It's a great plan.

[travismheim]

The cut your bill in half promotion really isn't costing Sprint money though, nor is it giving something away, as it is simply a custom rate plan designed to get people to switch to Sprint, something which in many cases has been shown to cost more than some of Sprint's other plans.

 

For instance, the 15gb plan with Verizon at $100, with Sprint would be $50, plus if Sprint counts in the $15 line fee for one line, then half that would be $57.50 monthly, or if Sprint just counts the discount on the plan but not the line, then the 15gb plan on Sprint with one line, is $65 monthly. That is $5 more than Sprint's unlimited plan.

The part that is costing them money is paying all of the customers fee's to switch, contract early termination fee and any eip balance.

[cortney]

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So this image was floating around my feed on Instagram by a few of my followers. I think it's crazy yet kinda funny that there is a "label" based on what carrier you have. To me I don't think there's a "look" or whatever you want to call it because you have carrier x, y or z.

 

They conveniently left out "Virgin Mobile" I see.  

Edited July 20, 2015 by cortney

[WiWavelength]

They conveniently left out "Virgin Mobile" I see.  

 

 

AJ

[derrph]

They conveniently left out "Virgin Mobile" I see.

You know what, I didn't notice that until you said something. AJ's post sums it up really well lol

 

 

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[dnicekid]

A little bit of tethering on an unlimited plan we are speaking about. For free or a small fee. If they are giving ul for $60 it won't hurt to offer 2gb of tethering included. Even if its throttled. Or $4 a gb. Or let you buy up for roaming like in the old days.. $20 a month includes 5gb tethering and 1gb roaming ...

[WiWavelength]

However, things like tethering are important misses on ul plans 2gb would be awesome. Perks like +2 gbs for longtime customers would be awesome.

 

The likely answer is that Sprint has conducted market research, crunched the numbers, and found inclusion/exclusion of a tethering allotment on "unlimited" data plans does not move many users either way.

 

Hordes of people are not churning from Sprint to T-Mobile because of included tethering.  Those who are leaving Sprint are doing so for other reasons, as most users are unaware of or not interested in tethering.  S4GRU type users are aware, and we may desire tethering.  But we constitute an almost insignificant percentage of the overall wireless user base.

 

To use an analogy, maybe the gas station across town includes free basic car washes with fuel purchases, while the gas station just down the street does not.  If I do not need a car wash or do not feel like driving all that way just for a perk, then I am likely to stick with my local gas station -- possibly even pay for a car wash there.  So, if Sprint can extract a few more dollars from the "unlimited" data subs who want tethering and are unlikely to churn over it, then that is probably a good revenue generating practice -- like it or not.

 

In the end, "unlimited" data in this day and age is ridiculous.  It needs to die a painful death.  Then, people can pay for how much data they use, and they can use that data however they see fit -- no tethering, all tethering, or something in between.

 

AJ

[travismheim]

A little bit of tethering on an unlimited plan we are speaking about. For free or a small fee. If they are giving ul for $60 it won't hurt to offer 2gb of tethering included. Even if its throttled. Or $4 a gb. Or let you buy up for roaming like in the old days.. $20 a month includes 5gb tethering and 1gb roaming ...

It's a good thought, but 1GB in roaming would cost far more than that.

[NYC126]

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2015/07/18/sprint-vs-t-mobile-why-is-marcelo-claure-going-aft.aspx

[Arysyn]

The likely answer is that Sprint has conducted market research, crunched the numbers, and found inclusion/exclusion of a tethering allotment on "unlimited" data plans does not move many users either way.

 

Hordes of people are not churning from Sprint to T-Mobile because of included tethering. Those who are leaving Sprint are doing so for other reasons, as most users are unaware of or not interested in tethering. S4GRU type users are aware, and we may desire tethering. But we constitute an almost insignificant percentage of the overall wireless user base.

 

To use an analogy, maybe the gas station across town includes free basic car washes with fuel purchases, while the gas station just down the street does not. If I do not need a car wash or do not feel like driving all that way just for a perk, then I am likely to stick with my local gas station -- possibly even pay for a car wash there. So, if Sprint can extract a few more dollars from the "unlimited" data subs who want tethering and are unlikely to churn over it, then that is probably a good revenue generating practice -- like it or not.

 

In the end, "unlimited" data in this day and age is ridiculous. It needs to die a painful death. Then, people can pay for how much data they use, and they can use that data however they see fit -- no tethering, all tethering, or something in between.

 

AJ

I agree with AJ on this.

 

I just don't see what the big deal is adding tethering to plans. I heard people can purchase tethering to their plans for a certain tethering package add-on, which ought to be good enough for people on unlimited plans who need tethering.

 

On the issue of the cut your bills in half, while there are the switching costs Sprint incurs in whatever they are offering to those who switch, T-Mobile is doing the same thing for people who switch to them. It just isn't a fair comparison to compare the CYBIH promotion to T-Mobile's use of including tethering in their plans. Those are two completely separate issues.

 

If people want to suggest Sprint add tethering and enough people do so, then perhaps Sprint will consider it further. However, in all this time T-Mobile has offered it inclusive in their unlimited plans, I'd imagine Sprint thought about including it, but decided it just wasn't something they wanted to do. Seeing as it's been some time and Sprint has just recently added a new plan which still does not have tethering included, it kinda seems likely they won't do so for a while.