Jump to content
lilotimz

How to Spot Sprint Antennas and RRUs (Alcatel-Lucent)

Recommended Posts

Here are the Alcatel-Lucent (ALU) Network Vision equipment for Sprint. Their equipment consists of 2x base stations, 6 or 9 Remote Radio Unit (RRU) setups, and 1 standard NV antenna of with connectors on the bottom (4x PCS, 2x SMR). 

29xvoti.jpg

Below are images of Alcatel-Lucent equipment. In these images, you will find Alcatel-Lucent base stations, Sprint Network Vision antennas, PCS 1900 & SMR 800 RRUs, and their configurations.

Alcatel-Lucent 4x40w 25 MHz PCS 1900 B25 RRUs (Panasonic) [old]

6ovKoim.jpg
Alcatel-Lucent  4x45w 1900 MHz B25 RRU 

RmGdQq2.jpg

ALU 2x50w B26 800 MHz RRU [KMW Communications]

OGsfoEA.jpg

Older Panasonic Setup [4x40w 25 MHz B25]

SHxS76u.jpg

20sf3kZ.png

nREYxw5.jpg

7097344567_4c0b17e1b1_k.jpg

Standard Alcatel-Lucent Setup 

Utilizes 2x50w 800 MHz B26 RRU and 4x45w 1900 MHz B25 RRU and compatible antennas. 

P2Klv2L.jpg

scU9PKU.jpg

usuGjAp.jpg

Closer Look at the connectors on the bottom of the antennas

inC0iay.png

Special Case Mexican IBEZ Setup

Note the lack of 800 MHz RRUs though the antennas are capable of 800 MHz. 

img_mbrmap.jpg

QL941eC.jpg

High Capacity Setup

65PopcJ.jpg

uDkts8e.jpg

High Capacity no SMR 800 IBEZ setup

4PPt9GH.jpg

dIm2urh.png

* Credits go to those whom took the images of these equipment. You know who you are."

  • Like 16

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Shouldn't this be pinned like the other 2 spotting threads? Thanks to the moderator who pins it.

 

Great job lilotimz! Excellent setup!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

http://db.tt/YPV29Lzo a bunch of pictures of ALU equipment in the shentel area. Free to use.

 

Sent from my HTCONE using Tapatalk 4 Beta

 

 

  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

http://db.tt/YPV29Lzo a bunch of pictures of ALU equipment in the shentel area. Free to use.

 

Sent from my HTCONE using Tapatalk 4 Beta

 

Much thanks for the pics of the older style setups. OP has been updated accordingly.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

That bottom pic of the base station cabinets are legacy. New ALU cabinets look different.

 

Robert via Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

That bottom pic of the base station cabinets are legacy. New ALU cabinets look different.

 

Robert via Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

 

Swapped out the image for another. It's kinda surprising at how little pictures of ALU NV base stations there are considering they're in same of the biggest markets.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Wow that Mexican IBEZ boundary is so large.  It practically almost covers Los Angeles. Hopefully Sprint and the Mexican government can work something out so that Tucson and San Diego can get 800 MHz support at some point.

 

Also does anyone know how long ago did Alcatel Lucent switched over from the older RRU setups to the newer RRU setups?  

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 

Also does anyone know how long ago did Alcatel Lucent switched over from the older RRU setups to the newer RRU setups?  

 

Began with the third round markets iirc.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

What was the older ones?

 

Sent from my little Note2

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

What was the older ones?

 

Sent from my little Note2

 

 

Before AlcaLu was using 2 RRU's for PCS, one 1x/EVDO and 1 LTE.

 

 

Sent from Josh's iPhone 5 using Tapatalk 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

What was the older ones?

 

 

 

Sent from my little Note2

 

 

 

 

Before AlcaLu was using 2 RRU's for PCS, one 1x/EVDO and 1 LTE.

 

 

 

 

 

Sent from Josh's iPhone 5 using Tapatalk 2

Ericsson is still doing this on some sites even with the dual use RRU but I don't mind it since it offers much more flexibility down the road.

 

Sent from my little Note2

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Ericsson is still doing this on some sites even with the dual use RRU but I don't mind it since it offers much more flexibility down the road.

 

Sent from my little Note2

 

And in Vegas AlcaLu is only doing it to a small handful of sites. Hopefully they are all dual-mode RRU's and not single mode, but then again, it really wouldn't matter too much for the fact it'll provide the same capacity regardless of what modes.

 

 

Sent from Josh's iPhone 5 using Tapatalk 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

And in Vegas AlcaLu is only doing it to a small handful of sites. Hopefully they are all dual-mode RRU's and not single mode, but then again, it really wouldn't matter too much for the fact it'll provide the same capacity regardless of what modes.

 

 

Sent from Josh's iPhone 5 using Tapatalk 2

 

Actually no they will have the ability to use more spectrum capacity without having to climb the site.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Swapped out the image for another. It's kinda surprising at how little pictures of ALU NV base stations there are considering they're in same of the biggest markets.

The cabinets in your new pic look like legacy Motorola cabinets to me, not NV. When I first started tower stalking, I originally thought those cabinets were Network Vision as well since there are so few pics of the new ALU ones here :D. Here's an album of some pictures I have of NV ALU cabinets: http://imgur.com/E7fLSUW,fjtUrlL,w229fq7,GGhYt7m.

 

I can try to go back and get some clearer shots of the fronts of these cabinets. They seem have a habit of installing them with the fronts facing away from the fence, so it's often hard to get a good view!

  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The cabinets in your new pic look like legacy Motorola cabinets to me, not NV. When I first started tower stalking, I originally thought those cabinets were Network Vision as well since there are so few pics of the new ALU ones here :D. Here's an album of some pictures I have of NV ALU cabinets: http://imgur.com/E7fLSUW,fjtUrlL,w229fq7,GGhYt7m.

 

I can try to go back and get some clearer shots of the fronts of these cabinets. They seem have a habit of installing them with the fronts facing away from the fence, so it's often hard to get a good view!

At last! Someone offers up images of the ever elusive ALU cabinets! Much thanks! And yes, frontal images of the cabinets would be nice~

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Can anyone provide me with the address of an LTE live site in Laredo, Tx? I can swing by tomorrow since i'm off work and take a picture or two..I think there is one right off Mcpherson and Calle del Norte, since i get a few bars in LTE close by..Can anyone confirm?

 

 

Sent from my iPhone5 using Tapatalk 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Quick question about the dual mode Alcatel RRUs (this might have been answered before), how many CDMA and LTE carriers is it capable of handling?  I am just trying to figure out how future proof these dual mode RRUs in terms of adding additional capacity.

 

How do the dual mode Alcatel RRUs fare against the other vendors in terms of number of CDMA and LTE carriers those dual  mode RRUs can support?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

http://db.tt/YPV29Lzo a bunch of pictures of ALU equipment in the shentel area. Free to use.

 

Sent from my HTCONE using Tapatalk 4 Beta

Thanks for these pictures, it helps a lot to know what to look for.

 

One question in particular that you may be able to answer for me in regards to the stealth site you took pics of; where do they put the LTE panels?  I can clearly see the new NV panels near the top of the "flagpole" but where would they put the LTE RRU's?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 

 

http://db.tt/YPV29Lzo a bunch of pictures of ALU equipment in the shentel area. Free to use.

 

 

Sent from my HTCONE using Tapatalk 4 Beta

 

 

Thanks for these pictures, it helps a lot to know what to look for.

 

One question in particular that you may be able to answer for me in regards to the stealth site you took pics of; where do they put the LTE panels? I can clearly see the new NV panels near the top of the "flagpole" but where would they put the LTE RRU's?

Sometimes you can't see the antennas. They put the RRUs wherever they can. Behind something else, on the ground, etc.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

im 82 st and northern blvd and the tower is on 80 st and northern blvd, the panel with six cables has been removed is that normal?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have a question about a tower that's closest to my house.  You know how the tower is not circular but triangular shape with the panels on three sides of the triangle?  Now, my the sides of the triangles (panels) are not facing my house directly, instead, the vertex of the triangle is pointing at my house instead.  Does that effect my signal since the panels are not facing my house directly and that I get the vertex of the triangle?

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have a question about a tower that's closest to my house.  You know how the tower is not circular but triangular shape with the panels on three sides of the triangle?  Now, my the sides of the triangles (panels) are not facing my house directly, instead, the vertex of the triangle is pointing at my house instead.  Does that effect my signal since the panels are not facing my house directly and that I get the vertex of the triangle?

 

You should be fine, they are pretty wide-angled inside. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

My local tower  has had LTE for a while now, but I've had trouble connecting for a few weeks so I took a trek down to the tower. The top panels with all the RUUs are typical ALU NV panels that have been there for a while, but the three smaller panels below them are definitely new. Any idea what they are?
post-589-13752152046973_thumb.jpg
(Sorry for the crappy picture, I will have to get down there with a real camera soon.)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

What on earth are these RFS things labeled as 800 RRHs? There are new 1900 RRHs behind them.

LZhQx4q.jpg

This is a full-build ground mounted flagpole site in the Charlotte market and I can provide more pics if needed.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

What on earth are these RFS things labeled as 800 RRHs? There are new 1900 RRHs behind them.

 

This is a full-build ground mounted flagpole site in the Charlotte market and I can provide more pics if needed.

 

Dual path diplexers used to cut down on the number of feeders up the pole.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • large.unreadcontent.png.6ef00db54e758d06

  • gallery_1_23_9202.png

  • Similar Content

    • By Paynefanbro
      I recently went on an 8 day cruise from NYC to the Caribbean that stopped in Turks and Caicos, Puerto Rico, and the Dominican Republic. My first stop was Grand Turk and there I opted for the free roaming. My S9+ automatically connected to Flow's (Cable & Wireless) LTE network where I received speeds of around 120kbps on average with boosts of up to 150kbps. Something worth noting is that on speed tests, the server prefers to default to Sprint's Miami server as opposed to local servers. Speeds were more than adequate for any amount of web browsing and honestly felt much faster than in reality. It helps that using Chrome will save you data by not loading pictures on certain sites unless you click them.
      In Puerto Rico, I connected to Band 13 on the way into the port in San Juan but once I was in the city, my phone never left Band 41. While the phone was usable, speeds remained significantly lower than what I've come to expect from 3xCA in the mainland U.S. Data speeds peaked at around 25-30Mbos but on average were in the 5-10 Mbps range even on LTE+. Signal remained strong everywhere though. 
      Finally in the Dominican Republic, I entered in Amber Cover which is in Puerto Plata. My phone latched onto a weak Band 2 LTE signal in the port from Altice (called Orange Dominicana in SignalCheck). I had trouble loading pages though. Once off of the ship and out in the open, I had a much stronger signal which allowed me to browse the internet without a hitch. Because it was the last day of my trip, while at the beach I decided to purchase the 24 hour high speed pass for $5. My speeds went from 120kbps to 65Mbps in less than 5 seconds. In some areas speeds were slower, particularly at the port where it struggled to break 2Mbps. Now, back on the boat my phone is flipping between weak Band 4 LTE and overloaded Band 5 HSPA+ from Claro (called Verizon Dominicana in SignalCheck Pro). Here is the difference in speed from before and after purchasing the high speed pass. 
    • By legion125
      by Jeff Foster
      Sprint 4G Rollout Updates
      Friday, April 20, 2012 - 11:31 AM MDT
       
      Is there a "spectrum shortage?" Those two words send shivers down the spines of wireless industry executives. New services demand ever more spectrum, and, the story goes, there simply isn't enough spectrum available. An Internet search engine will easily find hundreds of thousands of links to the term "spectrum shortage." Many claim that it will be the downfall of America.
      The dwindling availability of a finite resource that can't be seen or touched threatens to possibly disrupt the mobile lifestyle that virtually every American has embraced. Dropped cellphone calls, delayed text messages and choppy video streams could become more frequent occurrences because the airwaves on which that data travel are nearing capacity at a time when mobile usage shows no signs of slowing.
      Federal regulators and industry players are searching for ways to fend off the supply-and-demand collision. Dish Network recently acquired a large block of vacant wireless spectrum that pending regulatory approval could be used for mobile broadband services.
       
      Short-Term Plan

      AT&T tried to merge with T-Mobile to solve its own capacity problem. It wanted to get its hands on T-Mobile spectrum. Still, that would have been only a temporary fix at best. Remember all the terrible stories about the quality of AT&T's wireless data network over the last few years? They say they simply don't have enough.
      The reason is that during the last few years, smartphones like the Apple iPhone and the many devices running Android emerged, and wireless data traffic grew like crazy. This problem jumped up and bit AT&T in the rear end. Suddenly, so many people were sucking so much data that the network could not handle it, due to spectrum shortage. Spectrum is like the size of the hose, and a wider hose is needed to carry more data for more customers.
      A couple good things are suddenly happening that may give carriers a little time to solve this increasing problem. Perhaps Verizon starting to sell the iPhone last spring has something to do with it. If so, then now with Sprint selling the iPhone, AT&T will have more breathing room, at least temporarily. That's the good news. However, that reprieve will only last a short while before the exploding smartphone and wireless data growth catches up. Then the other carriers will be faced with the same problem that's confronting AT&T.
      In the first quarter of 2011, the amount of data the average smartphone user consumed each month grew by 89 percent to 435 megabytes from 230 MB during the same quarter in 2010, according to Nielsen research. That's up from about 90 MB in 2009. For reference, the average size of an MP3 music file is about 4 MB.
      "Texting has always been traditionally viewed as a lightweight consumer of bandwidth, but if I start adding videos and pictures to my texts, that also starts consuming more bandwidth," said Tom Cullen, an executive vice president with Dish. But the primary growth driver will be video. Consumers can go through 5 gigabytes a month simply by streaming 10 minutes of standard definition video daily, he said.
       
      Data use is skyrocketing
      Data from the FCC indicate that more Americans are looking at their phones rather than talking on them. In 2009, 67 percent of available spectrum was utilized for voice and 33 percent for Internet data. Those percentages are now at 75 percent for data and 25 percent for voice. With each new iPhone release, data consumption grows. The iPhone 4S eats up twice as much data as the iPhone 4 and three times as much as the iPhone 3G, according to a study by network services firm Arieso. The new iPhone features Siri, a bandwidth-heavy voice recognition feature.
      The FCC estimates the U.S. will face a spectrum deficit of 90 MHz in 2013 and 275 MHz in 2014. To address the crunch, the federal government hopes to unleash 500 MHz of spectrum currently used for other purposes for wireless broadband by 2020. To put that figure in perspective, there is currently 547 MHz of spectrum allocated for mobile services, and AT&T and Verizon each own about 90 MHz.
      The government plans to hold so-called incentive auctions, which will try to lure spectrum owners such as TV broadcasters to sell their licenses. Verizon Wireless has agreed to purchase spectrum from a group of cable-TV companies. Sprint has expressed interest in working with Dish, which acquired the bulk of its 45 MHz of spectrum through two deals for bankrupt satellite technology companies. Dish chairman Charlie Ergen has said that the satellite-TV provider would prefer to partner with an existing wireless carrier on a high speed, 4G network. In response to recent comments by Sprint Chief Financial Officer Joe Euteneuer about the company's interest in working with Dish, Cullen said other wireless carriers are in the same situation. After failing to acquire T-Mobile, analysts expect AT&T to make a play for Dish, a long-rumored merger partner.
      As for T-Mobile, perhaps the most logical buyer is CenturyLink. T-Mobile's German-based parent company has indicated that it might exit the U.S. market. CenturyLink, which acquired Denver-based Qwest last year, is the third-largest landline phone company but does not own a wireless service, unlike the top two, AT&T and Verizon.
      Carriers are trying to offload as much traffic as they can to Wi-Fi networks, which ride on unlicensed spectrum. In some areas, they're installing picocells, which are smaller cell sites that can help boost capacity in dense areas.
      Finally, they're spending billions of dollars on LTE networks that use the airwaves more efficiently. Verizon and AT&T already have 4G LTE networks in place, and Sprint is moving to the technology. Dish says it hopes to enter the mobile broadband market with advanced LTE technology by late 2014 or early 2015. If Dish were to also offer voice service, it would come through VoLTE, which is similar to Voice-over-Internet Protocol (VOIP) phone services. Dish still needs the FCC to drop a condition tied to its spectrum that requires devices to have the ability to communicate with satellites, not just ground-based cell sites. The rule-making process that will likely remove the requirement is underway and could be completed by summer's end.
       
      Is there really a shortage problem?
      The problem, analysts argue, is that the operators that control the greatest amount of unused spectrum may be under-capitalized or unwilling to build out networks to use the spectrum. "We do not believe the U.S. faces a spectrum shortage," Jason Bazinet and Michael Rollins wrote in their Citigroup report. "Too much spectrum is controlled by companies that are not planning on rolling out services or face business and financial challenges. And of the spectrum that is being used, 90 percent of it has been allocated to existing 2G, 3G, and 3.5G wireless services by larger wireless carriers, such as AT&T, Verizon Wireless, Sprint Nextel, and T-Mobile USA.
      In total, U.S. operators have licenses for about 538MHz of wireless spectrum. Only about 192MHz of that spectrum is currently being used. Most of the unused wireless spectrum is owned by companies such as Clearwire, LightSquared, and Dish Network. But so far, LightSquared has been stopped and the other companies have been slow to build networks using their available spectrum.
      "There is definitely a mismatch when it comes to spectrum in the wireless industry," said Paul Gallant, an analyst with MF Global in Washington, D.C. "There are some companies that have spectrum, but they're struggling financially. Or they aren't quite sure what to do with the spectrum. And others that have the money and business model, but need the spectrum." The move to 4G is very important for these operators because it offers them a more efficient way to deliver service. 4G LTE uses the available spectrum roughly 700 percent more efficiently than the 3G wireless technology EV-DO. Carriers will soon be refarming 3G spectrum to 4G LTE in several years.
      A key factor in encouraging efficient use of spectrum has been largely overlooked in carrier boardroom discussions. Wireless providers can add capacity, without obtaining more spectrum, by adding more and more cell sites. Additional cell sites in spectrum constrained areas allow the same spectrum to be used by even more consumers, as well as adding picocells and microcells to denser population areas. So far, the carriers have not expressed too much interest in this method due to additional capital expenditures and overhead. Their strategy is like what Microsoft, Apple and Google have used. It's just cheaper to buy what you need than to invest the time and energy to do the actual work.
      So what can the wireless companies do? To some extent, re-farming their existing networks will help. But so will finding ways to use other spectrum. For example, only T-Mobile lets users make phone calls using Wi-Fi, yet most of the mobile devices available from carriers have this capability; the carriers just don't enable it.
      Allowing Wi-Fi calling could unload millions of voice and data users on to alternative networks and ease the spectrum crunch, at least to some extent. Encouraging VoIP use would also help for two reasons. VoIP doesn't require a lot of bandwidth, and it means that the phone in question uses only the data spectrum, not both voice and data while this is going on.
      These points illustrate that the carriers do have options beyond just buying up spectrum. They can offload more wireless traffic than they do now, build more cell sites into their networks and they can allow the use of other types of communications. While the spectrum crunch isn't going away, that doesn't mean that the process can't be slowed.
       
      Sensational graphic extolling the dire spectrum crisis. Maybe a tad exaggerated???
       
       
      Images courtesy: Spectrum Bridge, iqmetrix.com
       
      Source: FierceWireless.com, Denver Post, Ecommercetimes.com, CNET
    • By S4GRU
      by Jeff Foster
      Sprint 4G Rollout Updates
      Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - 7:46 PM MST
       
      Since last fall, there had been talk of a Samsung Galaxy Nexus launching on American carriers other than Big Red. Sprint has finally announced several weeks ago that it is the another vendor slated for release in the U.S. Suffice to say, many of us out there, especially those adverse to heading to Verizon and paying its premium prices, are excited about the impending release.
      The good news is that Google could be working on an updated version of the Galaxy Nexus. It has unofficially been dubbed the Galaxy Nexus Plus. There is much anticipation that it will be released before Sprint turns on LTE this summer. It’s not the first time an OEM has refreshed a device and re-released it to the market place, which works to our advantage. It’s rumored that the new Galaxy Nexus will have either a 1.5 or 1.8 GHz Texas Instrument OMAP4670 dual core processor. This would be a significant upgrade from the 1.2 GHz dual core processor found in the current Verizon version.
      We don’t know anything about official specs, but it’s also rumored to have an 8 MP camera. This is a noteworthy upgrade to the 5 MP shooter on the Verizon model (which has been lauded by many techies). We already know that the Sprint model will come installed with Google Wallet, per previous announcements. Some rumors also point to a beefier battery as well. The phone should have all the other features that’s on the current Galaxy Nexus, so now all we have to do is wait.
       
       
      Source: http://androidandme....era-on-the-way/
  • Posts

  • Recently Browsing

    No registered users viewing this page.

×