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How? It is. Somewhere had to be last. Sprint chose Hawaii to be in the final round. I would have too. If you don't like how bad bureaucracy is in Hawaii, start a grassroots organization and do something about it. But you are the victims of your own government inaction. You can blame Sprint and say they should know how awful Hawaii is and they should have started sooner. You can say that Sprint's Network Vision planning is awful because Hawaii takes double to quadruple the time of even incompetent stateside governments to issue permits. Or you can acknowledge that complacent Hawaiians who do not hold their government accountable is the real issue here. The bottom line is Hawaii is a tough place to do business. It's a place where things are expensive and competition is strong. Sprint also likely has a low market share there. So with all this together, why would Sprint make it a priority? It is what it is. I live in a final round market too. No LTE in my area yet either. In a lot of ways New Mexico is like Hawaii. An inept government full of bureaucracy and a citizenry that is complacent and overly dependent on government. Permitting and planning here started the same time as Hawaii. But we have NV sites In Progress. New Mexico and Hawaii deserved to be in the final round for Sprint. It makes sense all things considered. We also were near the end of Verizon's LTE deployment. AT&T just recently launched LTE in only one of our cities. So the other carriers also considered us last. Sprint is just starting later, and we all knew that even two years ago that Sprint was starting last. But the difference between New Mexico and Hawaii's deployment of Network Vision is the degrees of their government bureaucracy. New Mexico is one of the worst states in the Union to do business. Hawaii just managed to find a way to be even much worse than that. It's something I'm sure you've dealth with your whole residency in Hawaii and it's not limited to just how it impacts your Sprint service. And it will not be going away as long as you live there. Robert via Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 using Tapatalk

You said it yourself. The LTE is not accepted. And it sounds like it's not ready. It is definitely not unusual to see some LTE anomalies at a site prior to acceptance. Robert via Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 using Tapatalk

Most of the voice issues are related to 800MHz coming online suddenly. Sprint has a lot of fine tuning to do. Currently, if you run out of 800MHz service, it will not handoff to 1900. You get dropped. Robert via Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 using Tapatalk

If your site does not have LTE accepted, then most likely it is on legacy backhaul. And it probably was on legacy backhaul when it was hitting 1.6Mbps too. When they do a full build site, they install the 3G and LTE equipment all at once. If it ends up only 3G accepted, 99% of the time it is because they did not have new high speed backhaul ready when the physical work was complete. So they could not test and accept the LTE side. So they at least tested and accepted the 3G side so the Contractor could be paid for their work. But now you're wondering why it was faster initially. And why you assumed that new backhaul was in place. That's because the routers on the NV equipment can receive multiple backhaul sources, including multiple T1 lines. On a legacy site, the T1 lines for data and the T1 lines for voice were separate. So there may be 1 or 2 voice T1 lines and 1-4 data T1 lines on a legacy site. But on an NV site, all the voice and T1 lines are plugged in together into the router, and all the sites bandwidth is managed in the router for voice and data combined. So if a 3G NV site doesn't have a lot of voice traffic, data speeds can go up significantly after an NV conversion, even without new backhaul installed. And since QOS priority is given to voice in this setup, if voice needs go up, even temporarily, the data speeds go down accordingly. Also, another issue with this setup is that once 3G data users notice the speeds have gone up, they use it more. So, to recap, NV sites with only 3G accepted almost always are on legacy T1 backhaul. And even gains in performance on 3G will be short lived until LTE and permanent backhaul arrive and are hooked up to the 3G side. Robert via Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 using Tapatalk

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Let's keep from getting too negative. I had to clean up this thread. Stay within our posting guidelines. We are not a Sprint complaint board. http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/1197-s4gru-posting-guidelines-aka-the-rulez/ Robert via Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 using Tapatalk

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Did you map it on Sensorly so now it will appear? Robert via Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 using Tapatalk

It is not acceptable to use our forums to inquire from our members which carrier you should switch to from Sprint. I mean, c'mon. Robert via Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 using Tapatalk

Sprint maps don't show all Sprint sites. Only ones that have received upgrades in the past six months. Once an upgrade gets more than six months old, it falls off their maps. The only place you can find comprehensive maps that show Sprint's network nationwide is in our Sponsor section. Robert via Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 using Tapatalk

Don't use our boards to complain. Go, or don't go. But follow our posting guidelines. http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/1197-s4gru-posting-guidelines-aka-the-rulez/ Robert via Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 using Tapatalk

They had to wait until ALU was complete with the RF design to a start permitting. And obviously Hawaii was a lower priority. Sprint already has WiMax there. Robert via Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 using Tapatalk

If not repeaters, then I would venture a guess that it is a daisy chained terminal end microwave backhaul running along those highways. But this would probably be a good solution for rural low capacity highway sites. Robert

2.25Mbps speeds still require the sector/channel to be virtually unburdened. Robert

Plans. I said their plans are a threat. Not the current network position in a specific spot of Marion County. Robert

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Sprint's network plans are a threat to Verizon. Especially as their LTE speeds start to take a crap on 750MHz. I love shoving my 2.5Mbps Sprint 3G speedtests in the face of my Verizon friends when their LTE speeds drop to 1-2Mbps at night around here. Robert

Yep, you guys have three accepted LTE sites now. You guys are ahead of us because Plateau is doing the backhaul there. I wish Plateau was doing the backhaul here in the North. Robert via Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 using Tapatalk

They are working all over the Idaho market. Over in the Sponsor section we show maps of sites that have had equipment upgraded and which sites are live. For more info about how to become a Sponsor, check out this link: http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/1195-information-about-s4gru-sponsorship-levels-and-how-to-become-a-sponsor/ Robert via Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 using Tapatalk

So far, we have never received an 800 acceptance for a site that didn't have 3G accepted. Robert via Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 using Tapatalk

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Because they are not accepted. Robert via Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 using Tapatalk

Man, the EVO LTE is an RF performance dog. And that is even further compounding your problems. Currently, all Sprint smart phones are single band LTE. Triband LTE devices start going on sale in the Fall. The first confirmed Sprint Triband LTE smartphone is the LG Optimus G2. But there are supposed to be two more in 2013. All smartphones in 2014 are supposed to be Triband. Currently, Sprint has two Triband hotspots for sale. So you could pick up one of those to tie you over. I have the Netgear Zing hotspot and it it is a RF performing beast. It is much stronger on LTE 1900 than the EVO LTE and may even double your coverage. It also works very well on LTE 2600. I haven't tried it on LTE 800 yet, but it tested very well in FCC approvals in that band. Additionally, you could check out sales on used or refurbished units. The GS3, Note 2, Victory and LG Optimus G are pretty solid LTE 1900 performers and will positively increase your LTE coverage around Springfield until Triband devices hit the streets. Or you could just suffer with the EVO until Triband smartphones go on sale in a few months. But better days are ahead. I'm sorry that your first Sprint LTE device suffers so bad on LTE. It's the biggest source of your frustration I'm sure. Robert via Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 using Tapatalk

No one enjoys reading posts about how the Sprint legacy network sucks. We already know. And you know it will change. It is changing. The network is being upgraded. You can sit there and praise VZW. However, my VZW LTE speed was below 1Mbps on Friday evening where I was eating dinner in Albuquerque. Even Sprint 3G was beating it. I had to use T-Mobile LTE to get 20+Mbps. VZW speeds are plummeting in many places at peak times. And they are starting to suck hind teat behind Tmo and AT&T. And even Sprint in many places. Robert via Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 using Tapatalk