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KD8JBF Member Level: 4G WiMax

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I don't like the direction that he is taking pushing the "Video" aspect of wireless more than the mobile aspect. Keep the phone company a phone company....He just want's the spectrum......

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irwinshere Member Level: 3G EVDO

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I don't like the direction that he is taking pushing the "Video" aspect of wireless more than the mobile aspect. Keep the phone company a phone company....He just want's the spectrum......

He may actually want the infrastructure more, so he can get his spectrum deployed faster.

 

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Meh... I can't see DT selling to Dish, I doubt Charlie will give them a high enough offer.

 

Also, if you value TMo as a disruptor, I can't see Charlie Ergen keeping TMobile's current pricing structure in place. I can only see him raising prices.

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cdk Member Level: 4G LTE

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Let him have it. I think Son should bid T-Mobile up then withdraw and leave Charlie holding the bag.

 

SprinT-Mobile is unlikely to happen as I don't think the FCC will go for that. That said I tend to think Fraydog is right, Charlie is probably not willing to cough up enough cash for T-Moblie (though I think the FCC would go for it).

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dnicekid Member Level: eHRPD

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dish and sprint are working together.....

Charlie wants in ... If charlie knows sprint wants tmo AND goes and gets it... That "trial" thing with dish/sprint will be cut or raised really high in price for charlie.....

Sprint CAN EASILY (maybe a little exaggerated) get by fcc. Sprint can get the merger ... Say charlie will be the 4th carrier, and whatever spectrum sprint doesnt want/need will be what charlie gets...   Charlie can then start his wireless company

 

The fcc wanted 4 carriers,was yes of course it better for comp.

2 small carriers will never be able to keep up with 2 BIG carriers... Time will eventually run out on the 2 small ones, which is what we have been witnessing the last 5 years with tmo/sprint. We all know if tmo/att went through it would have been wriiten in stone that vzw/sprint was next. The while the fcc might not want tmo/sprint... its obvious they cant compete with the big 2... While they are trying, the honestly cant put a dent into the other 2.

 

Charlie wants in bad, let sprint and whoever merge, and then let charlie in =4

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dedub Member Level: 4G WiMax

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Consumers care most about price and coverage/dependability.

 

If sprint and tmo want to compete with att/vz, they will have to offer better service at LOWER prices to get people to take the trouble to SWITCH.

 

People who already hate att/vz, may have more motivation to switch without a big price difference.

 

But for everyone else who tolerates or even prefers att/vz, to get them to switch sprint/tmo will have to provide some other carrot besides unlimited data at the same or similar price.

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The combined companies would preserve four national wireless players, add tons of spectrum to T-Mobile's arsenal and the combined company would have more clout to participate and bid at any upcoming 600 MHz auction.

 

The value of Dish' spectrum has more than doubled since 2008 and will likely grow with the addition of the H block. 

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The combined companies would preserve four national wireless players, add tons of spectrum to T-Mobile's arsenal and the combined company would have more clout to participate and bid at any upcoming 600 MHz auction.

 

The value of Dish' spectrum has more than doubled since 2008 and will likely grow with the addition of the H block.

You mean Sprint's arsenal, right?

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The more I think about this, I cant see any buyout of tmo that does not include Dish. There will be considerable overlapping sites between tmo and sprint. Rather than decommissioning lease agreements, etc... why not structure a buyout that automatically spins overlapping sites to dish? Partner that with a site sharing agreement for sites where sprint was not represented, perhaps offering charlie usage and reasonable spectrum sharing. Charlie would avoid revenue sharing or cost exchange in the places where sprint and tmo had identical coverage. Spectrum would be a mess to sort out who gets what, but FCC approval becomes more likely

 

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The more I think about this, I cant see any buyout of tmo that does not include Dish. There will be considerable overlapping sites between tmo and sprint. Rather than decommissioning lease agreements, etc... why not structure a buyout that automatically spins overlapping sites to dish? Partner that with a site sharing agreement for sites where sprint was not represented, perhaps offering charlie usage and reasonable spectrum sharing. Charlie would avoid revenue sharing or cost exchange in the places where sprint and tmo had identical coverage. Spectrum would be a mess to sort out who gets what, but FCC approval becomes more likely Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk

 

They could sell T-Mobile's network to Dish sans spectrum and customers, of course. It will take a bit of time to transition the spectrum from T-Mobile's network to Sprint's. Meanwhile Dish could be deploying their spectrum and EBS on T-Mobile's network. The FCC has their 4th network, the tower companies don't lose a customer, DT is out of the US market, Softbank has their competitive carrier. I see it as a win-win-win-win scenario.

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The combined companies would preserve four national wireless players, add tons of spectrum to T-Mobile's arsenal and the combined company would have more clout to participate and bid at any upcoming 600 MHz auction.

 

The value of Dish' spectrum has more than doubled since 2008 and will likely grow with the addition of the H block. 

 

In order to buy T-Mobile they will have to come up with $20+B for DT shares and then have to take over about $15B of debt. Does Dish have enough clout to borrow that kind moolah? T-Mobile just raised some debt to purchase 700MHz spectrum from Verizon and others as well as raise $1.8B in a stock sale.

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In order to buy T-Mobile they will have to come up with $20+B for DT shares and then have to take over about $15B of debt. Does Dish have enough clout to borrow that kind moolah? T-Mobile just raised some debt to purchase 700MHz spectrum from Verizon and others as well as raise $1.8B in a stock sale.

 

These transactions require the suitor to finance such a deal.  They will approach banks to garner the capital needed.  

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