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Century Link completed fiber optic install at 3455 S Wilmot last Thursday - any idea when this tower will fire up 4g?

Holy crap! CenturyLink is working somewhere??

 

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Century Link completed fiber optic install at 3455 S Wilmot last Thursday - any idea when this tower will fire up 4g?

Nope! Nobody has managed to nail down a fiber install time here until now. This is a test case.

 

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Nope! Nobody has managed to nail down a fiber install time here until now. This is a test case.Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk

This morning when I checked my phone (o/a 0530) there was a message stating there was "no data connection" with eHRPD 11 showing but when I checked the web it was working - a "restart" of the phone then cleared the message - 3g was reflected throughout this time frame and my neighborhood has yet to see any 4g. Thanks for your input.

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This morning when I checked my phone (o/a 0530) there was a message stating there was "no data connection" with eHRPD 11 showing but when I checked the web it was working - a "restart" of the phone then cleared the message - 3g was reflected throughout this time frame and my neighborhood has yet to see any 4g. Thanks for your input.

 

eHRPD:11 is the equivalent of an Error 67 on EVDO. Most new phones now show both eHRPD:11 MIP:67 on the error screen that comes up now.

 

It is a data authentication failure. There are numerous reasons for this to occur, most having to do with your phone's data provisioning being out of sync with the network values. It will also occur when your phone is hotlined, suspended or disconnected; since your NAI is then suspended as well in those instances.

 

It gives no information to actually  determine what the cause is, it's the runny nose of the mobile world, a symptom with no real evidence of the cause but a huge number of potential causes.

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eHRPD:11 is the equivalent of an Error 67 on EVDO. Most new phones now show both eHRPD:11 MIP:67 on the error screen that comes up now. It is a data authentication failure. There are numerous reasons for this to occur, most having to do with your phone's data provisioning being out of sync with the network values. It will also occur when your phone is hotlined, suspended or disconnected; since your NAI is then suspended as well in those instances. It gives no information to actually  determine what the cause is, it's the runny nose of the mobile world, a symptom with no real evidence of the cause but a huge number of potential causes.

Thank you, I think -- over 10 yrs with Sprint and never saw that one before - appreciate your time and knowledge.

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Thank you, I think -- over 10 yrs with Sprint and never saw that one before - appreciate your time and knowledge.

 

Well, eHRPD is fairly new to the network, so it's quite likely you've never seen that error before. Error 67 on the other hand is fairly common, but if you've never had issues like most customers, then you would never see it.

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Got this email from Sprint regarding my question I asked on their forums about the three towers in town.

"MJluvsMK,

Thanks for the post. We don't want you to leave. I have taken a look into your area and I show that the towers in your area are all within the final stages of the upgrade. I can assure you we are working as fast as Quality allows getting our entire 3G footprint completed with LTE.

Victor
Sprint Social Care
"

 

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Lte around Tucson was atrocious tonight. Reminded me of the old days, except getting no data through a fiber backhauled 4g pipe is exponentially less acceptable.

 

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Lte around Tucson was atrocious tonight. Reminded me of the old days, except getting no data through a fiber backhauled 4g pipe is exponentially less acceptable.

 

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Hopefully you realize the flaw in that statement.  5MHz is only 5MHz and this is shared by a community. Thousands of little data monglers gobbling away unlimited.  

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Hopefully you realize the flaw in that statement.  5MHz is only 5MHz and this is shared by a community. Thousands of little data monglers gobbling away unlimited.  

 

Yes, unfortunately in IBEZ markets LTE will likely be much more lackluster until the 800MHz stuff is sorted out. Unfortunately, these markets also aren't likely the highest priority for Spark either to help compensate.

 

You also have to keep in mind that the few LTE sites active around Tucson are covering much more area than intended once they are all upgraded.

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Yes, unfortunately in IBEZ markets LTE will likely be much more lackluster until the 800MHz stuff is sorted out. Unfortunately, these markets also aren't likely the highest priority for Spark either to help compensate.

 

You also have to keep in mind that the few LTE sites active around Tucson are covering much more area than intended once they are all upgraded.

 

I guess i still don't understand this 100%. The 3G is slow in Tucson but it covers the area well, wouldn't it just be the same when all the towers are upgraded and broadcasting LTE? Also why wouldn't spark be a priority? You would think that because we cant get 800 yet that they would try to get 2600 out here..

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Hopefully you realize the flaw in that statement. 5MHz is only 5MHz and this is shared by a community. Thousands of little data monglers gobbling away unlimited.

No, that really wasn't it.

 

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I guess i still don't understand this 100%. The 3G is slow in Tucson but it covers the area well, wouldn't it just be the same when all the towers are upgraded and broadcasting LTE? Also why wouldn't spark be a priority? You would think that because we cant get 800 yet that they would try to get 2600 out here..

 

It will be decent, once all the towers are broadcasting LTE. Not even half of the sites are online right now, so they are carrying a much heavier load than they will in the end. But as more and more LTE is out there, more and more people will be using it. Likely to the point where it slows down significantly. This is when they will need to bring in Band 41 (Spark) to relieve the congestion. When that happens is unknown at this point. 

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It will be decent, once all the towers are broadcasting LTE. Not even half of the sites are online right now, so they are carrying a much heavier load than they will in the end. But as more and more LTE is out there, more and more people will be using it. Likely to the point where it slows down significantly. This is when they will need to bring in Band 41 (Spark) to relieve the congestion. When that happens is unknown at this point. 

 

At the moment, Tucson is sitting at 41/102 towers completed, with 40.2% completed. In addition, many of these sites seem to be clumped near each other  (probably because of backhaul availability) so in some areas speeds will be great as these clusters can handoff with each other, whereas the one off towers are going to be more heavily used until nearby towers are upgraded still.

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Lte around Tucson was atrocious tonight. Reminded me of the old days, except getting no data through a fiber backhauled 4g pipe is exponentially less acceptable.

 

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The chokepoint in this case is not the fiber backhaul on new LTE sites, but rather the 5MHz air link. With too few sites complete and too many users per 5MHz channel, the only relief will be to bring on more LTE sites and spread out the load over many more channels. Backhaul should never be a problem again at upgraded sites. Just air link capacity when over saturated.

 

Also, now that permitting is starting all over the country, you may start seeing some B41 permitting start in the Tucson area soon. I have a feeling you'll be the first to spot them. ;)

 

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The chokepoint in this case is not the fiber backhaul on new LTE sites, but rather the 5MHz air link. With too few sites complete and too many users per 5MHz channel, the only relief will be to bring on more LTE sites and spread out the load over many more channels. Backhaul should never be a problem again at upgraded sites. Just air link capacity when over saturated.

 

Also, now that permitting is starting all over the country, you may start seeing some B41 permitting start in the Tucson area soon. I have a feeling you'll be the first to spot them. ;)

 

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I sure hope we do since we're in the IBEZ and probably won't see any 800 for a while.

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Is LTE a weaker? As it lights up more and more around town it has always felt weaker and fragile.

 

I drove up to a new site that was activated just to see the difference, on CDMA only i was getting a solid -30 dBm but when i switced it back it connected to LTE at -61 dBm and i didn't move an inch. Is there a reason its like this? 

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Is LTE a weaker? As it lights up more and more around town it has always felt weaker and fragile.

 

I drove up to a new site that was activated just to see the difference, on CDMA only i was getting a solid -30 dBm but when i switced it back it connected to LTE at -61 dBm and i didn't move an inch. Is there a reason its like this? 

Yes, LTE is more fragile. Also LTE & CDMA are calculated differently. 

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