T-Mobile LTE & Network Discussion V2

[floorguy]

SO disappointed with my roaming in central Utah... I had roughly mid -90s for strength, and couldnt even pull a simple radio stream, or load a simple webpage....  Glad to have ok strength.. but what good is it, if you have nothing behind it???  Reminds me of my quick year switch to Tmo... their map said it was ok service, this was on catalina... but it was GARBAGE... How they (any carrier) get away with saying its LTE, when you have SUB 3g speeds... SMH

 

[danlodish345]

SO disappointed with my roaming in central Utah... I had roughly mid -90s for strength, and couldnt even pull a simple radio stream, or load a simple webpage....  Glad to have ok strength.. but what good is it, if you have nothing behind it???  Reminds me of my quick year switch to Tmo... their map said it was ok service, this was on catalina... but it was GARBAGE... How they (any carrier) get away with saying its LTE, when you have SUB 3g speeds... SMH
 

Thanks for the warning I plan to go to Maine this summer for a wedding and supposedly they have roaming on u.s. cellular so I appreciate the heads-up

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[floorguy]

I would check us cellulars map... let me see if i can find that picture

 

[danlodish345]

I would check us cellulars map... let me see if i can find that picture
 

yeah that would be perfect

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[floorguy]

so this was about the location.. its is a lighter shade.. ok, I wasnt planning on streaming video... but damn

[danlodish345]

so this was about the location.. its is a lighter shade.. ok, I wasnt planning on streaming video... but damn

how was the web browsing at least

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[floorguy]

Speed test.. top 2... 3rd one was on my way in a different city..

Virtually nonexistent

[danlodish345]

Speed test.. top 2... 3rd one was on my way in a different city..
Virtually nonexistent

Wow TMobile really has to get its act together and terms of Roman

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[floorguy]

it was fine out on the road, filled in nicely... but their outlier areas... yea

 

[danlodish345]

it was fine out on the road, filled in nicely... but their outlier areas... yea
 

I really hope TMobile builds out their coverage completely

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[floorguy]

The sad part is... this is a small town... but a town nonetheless... SO WHY is there not a tower inside limits, or at least closer to, if you couldnt get permits to build in....

 

[danlodish345]

The sad part is... this is a small town... but a town nonetheless... SO WHY is there not a tower inside limits, or at least closer to, if you couldnt get permits to build in....
 

I find that sad. I actually find that very negligent on TMobiles part.

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[floorguy]

well sprint to.. they have towers around.. but its... well go look at the map in the premier section look at utah along the I-15... its filling in a lot better.. and its somewhat rough terrain... but still over all planning for any cell provider, should include townships

 

[danlodish345]

well sprint to.. they have towers around.. but its... well go look at the map in the premier section look at utah along the I-15... its filling in a lot better.. and its somewhat rough terrain... but still over all planning for any cell provider, should include townships
 

exactly they should plan for the townships of fight back when it comes to sell sites. But when people start complaining about no cell service or poor coverage I don't feel sorry for those idiots that complain that cell towers are dangerous.

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[Trip]

T-Mobile's questionable build-out practices in rural areas is what makes me most nervous about the merger.  My experience is that such construction is usually very clearly an attempt to make the map look good and not a real build-out that attempts to properly serve the local population. 

- Trip

[danlodish345]

T-Mobile's questionable build-out practices in rural areas is what makes me most nervous about the merger.  My experience is that such construction is usually very clearly an attempt to make the map look good and not a real build-out that attempts to properly serve the local population. 
- Trip

Exactly. That's why I'm very bullish when it comes to a carrier says they will build out in this location and have a good Network here. That's why I don't believe it until I see real World results.

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[floorguy]

1 minute ago, Trip said:

T-Mobile's questionable build-out practices in rural areas is what makes me most nervous about the merger.  My experience is that such construction is usually very clearly an attempt to make the map look good and not a real build-out that attempts to properly serve the local population. 

- Trip

My question is this.....Why is the speed so low?? Bandwidth??  or backhaul? Or what???  

The tower is there, its broadcasting on a band, so why the slow speeds???

[danlodish345]

My question is this.....Why is the speed so low?? Bandwidth??  or backhaul? Or what???  

The tower is there, its broadcasting on a band, so why the slow speeds???

They may not have turned up the back haul. Also it could have been overloaded. But also TMobile has much work to do in terms of building out rural coverage

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[dkyeager]

6 hours ago, floorguy said:

The sad part is... this is a small town... but a town nonetheless... SO WHY is there not a tower inside limits, or at least closer to, if you couldnt get permits to build in....

 

Are these shades of Sprint I am hearing from T-Mobile?  Often Sprint has built its towers around here a number of miles from the nearest town. which results in lower speeds and the entire town is on one sector.  I also wonder if T-Mobile is building out before backhaul, which is the usual way Sprint has handled adding bands and channels.

[danlodish345]

Are these shades of Sprint I am hearing from T-Mobile?  Often Sprint has built its towers around here a number of miles from the nearest town. which results in lower speeds and the entire town is on one sector.  I also wonder if T-Mobile is building out before backhaul, which is the usual way Sprint has handled adding bands and channels.

I'm interested to see actual coverage build-out and densification. I'm aware that it cost lots of money and time. Obviously the townships have a say and what happens. But I'd still like to see some more coverage expansion.

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[dkyeager]

49 minutes ago, danlodish345 said:

I'm interested to see actual coverage build-out and densification. I'm aware that it cost lots of money and time. Obviously the townships have a say and what happens. But I'd still like to see some more coverage expansion.

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I think this is where the economies of scale of merging comes in. At that point we should see full blown expansion with stores IMO.

 

Currently is T-Mobile just trying to cover the map to save on roaming and for marketing, making sure they meet minimal licenses requirements, acting like Sprint as I noted, dealing with equipment shortages as some T-Mobile RF engineers have mentioned, or doing expansions in stages.  To me if you have cash, one tower climb makes the most sense. But I think T-Mobile is a marketing driven firm.

[danlodish345]

I think this is where the economies of scale of merging comes in. At that point we should see full blown expansion with stores IMO.
 
Currently is T-Mobile just trying to cover the map to save on roaming and for marketing, making sure they meet minimal licenses requirements, acting like Sprint as I noted, dealing with equipment shortages as some T-Mobile RF engineers have mentioned, or doing expansions in stages.  To me if you have cash, one tower climb makes the most sense. But I think T-Mobile is a marketing driven firm.

I would have to agree with you. Because TMobile does lots of lots of marketing. And sometimes two results with the network don't me what the marketing parrots it out to be. I can tell you as a current T-Mobile user that they are lots of talk and minimal real world results. But yes you're right if they have money climacell site and make the improvements needed.

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[derrph]

I would have to agree with you. Because TMobile does lots of lots of marketing. And sometimes two results with the network don't me what the marketing parrots it out to be. I can tell you as a current T-Mobile user that they are lots of talk and minimal real world results. But yes you're right if they have money climacell site and make the improvements needed.

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I’m not sure if it’s going on or not but there have been reports that when T-Mobile announces “expanded” coverage in new places that it’s just a panel of two added to the tower. So if you’re not in the direction of it, you’ll lose service.


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[danlodish345]

I’m not sure if it’s going on or not but there have been reports that when T-Mobile announces “expanded” coverage in new places that it’s just a panel of two added to the tower. So if you’re not in the direction of it, you’ll lose service.


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Well I live in the very dense area of population. At least a hundred thousand people in my town. I'm surrounded by several cells size according to Tmobile so I'm never without service. But there are places in town that could use a cell site or two.

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[danlodish345]

Not bad for 2:43 in the morning.

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