Marcelo Claure, Town Hall Meetings, New Family Share Pack Plan, Unlimited Individual Plan, Discussion Thread

[Paynefanbro]

Well I haven't seen any Sprint small cells in New York City light poles,but I have seen plenty of Verizon ones. In fact big evil red alone with crown Castle are installing small cells in my neighborhood (Morningside Heights, Columbia University campus)

 

 

I feel like per his description, you wouldn't see them.

[lilotimz]

Well I haven't seen any Sprint small cells in New York City light poles,but I have seen plenty of Verizon ones. In fact big evil red alone with crown Castle are installing small cells in my neighborhood (Morningside Heights, Columbia University campus)

 

Because they're mandated by the NYC to be stealth setups. You will not see them unless you specifically know their locations or track them down somehow (pretty hard in the super urban zones like NYC). Most you'll see is a can antenna. 

[NYC126]

Thank you Tim, I just wanted to confirm that Sprint small cells are around New York.

[danny12345]

Because they're mandated by the NYC to be stealth setups. You will not see them unless you specifically know their locations or track them down somehow (pretty hard in the super urban zones like NYC). Most you'll see is a can antenna.

Any idea when Sacramento will get small cells?

 

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[lilotimz]

Any idea when Sacramento will get small cells?

 

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I know the locations and I'm watching. Don't think Samsung has started yet. 

[nexgencpu]

I know the locations and I'm watching. Don't think Samsung has started yet.

 

Any hint where one of those stealth NYC sites might be or what they might look like.

[lilotimz]

Any hint where one of those stealth NYC sites might be or what they might look like.

Nope but they're something like this. (this one is Verizon but you get the gyst of it I'm sure). 

 

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4442845,-79.9546406,3a,75y,164.9h,87.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZneBeqzhKmjvW6tsM7Dvdg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

[Flompholph]

Being that it is mobilite and not crown castle they will probably have a box half way up and a small antenna on top.

image http://mms.businesswire.com/bwapps/mediaserver/ViewMedia?mgid=173290&vid=5

 

article from 2009 about outdoor DAS in NYC. http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20090224005034/en/Mobilitie-Constructs-Fiber-Optic-DAS-Network-Yorks

[Paynefanbro]

Being that it is mobilite and not crown castle they will probably have a box half way up and a small antenna on top.

image http://mms.businesswire.com/bwapps/mediaserver/ViewMedia?mgid=173290&vid=5

 

article from 2009 about outdoor DAS in NYC. http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20090224005034/en/Mobilitie-Constructs-Fiber-Optic-DAS-Network-Yorks

That's what the Crown Castle DAS's look like around NYC

 

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[Flompholph]

That's what the Crown Castle DAS's look like around NYC

 

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Then you know what sprints small cells look like. There will be slight differences like the size and shape of the box half way up the pole.

 

The quick way to find out where is start a NYC spreadsheet/Map. Then look for GCIs that are very high in the B25/B26 range that don't fit the nearby sites.

[nexgencpu]

Nope but they're something like this. (this one is Verizon but you get the gyst of it I'm sure). 

 

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4442845,-79.9546406,3a,75y,164.9h,87.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZneBeqzhKmjvW6tsM7Dvdg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

How about the GCI's are they unique to the small cells or are they just acting as repeaters from a host macro site?

[Paynefanbro]

I found this just two blocks away from my home. These are littered throughout the city and I thought they were Crown Castle, not Mobilitie.



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[Flompholph]

In markets that track GCI the small cells can be unique. Every site is different but what has been found some GCIs are different.

 

The city can tell the DAS companies what they want them to look like. If I were you I would have logging on in SCP and look for GCI above 800 for B25( so 012800xx plus). For those of you in Ericsson markets those higher GCI's can be B26 but in ALU the GCI should be different and be higher out of ALU's pattern whatever that pattern looks like.

[nexgencpu]

Took a nice drive from South Amboy NJ to Yonkers NYC (about 50 miles) and only dropped band 41 about 4 or 5 times for short periods. 

 

That same drive just a lil over a year ago would have me drop to 3G a couple times let alone keep B41 for that long. 

 

Speeds almost never dropped below 35mbs. (averaging between 50-60mbs)

 

As a note, only dropped to 3G once going through the Lincoln Tunnel, everywhere else 100% LTE.

 

Pretty damn great if you ask me.

 

[Paynefanbro]

Took a nice drive from South Amboy NJ to Yonkers NYC (about 50 miles) and only dropped band 41 about 4 or 5 times for short periods. 

 

That same drive just a lil over a year ago would have me drop to 3G a couple times let alone keep B41 for that long. 

 

Speeds almost never dropped below 35mbs. (averaging between 50-60mbs)

 

As a note, only dropped to 3G once going through the Lincoln Tunnel, everywhere else 100% LTE.

 

Pretty damn great if you ask me.

 

I find that once you leave NYC and enter Westchester, things get really spotty. I stay on LTE but it's obvious that more work needs to be done there.

[nexgencpu]

I find that once you leave NYC and enter Westchester, things get really spotty. I stay on LTE but it's obvious that more work needs to be done there.

Last time I was in Cross County mall only B25/26 super congested, needs more density.

[RedSpark]

Last time I was in Cross County mall only B25/26 super congested, needs more density.

 

Time for some of those CommScope small cells to be deployed there: http://www.commscope.com/NewsCenter/PressReleases/CommScope-to-Provide-Sprint-with-Small-Cells-for-In-building-Wireless/

[lilotimz]

How about the GCI's are they unique to the small cells or are they just acting as repeaters from a host macro site?

Read the post about relays.

 

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[lilotimz]

Then you know what sprints small cells look like. There will be slight differences like the size and shape of the box half way up the pole.

 

The quick way to find out where is start a NYC spreadsheet/Map. Then look for GCIs that are very high in the B25/B26 range that don't fit the nearby sites.

Not for NYC. There will be no exterior visible equipment for mobilitie deployments.

 

As I previously mentioned, it's one of the conditions NYC placed on sprints deployments.

 

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[ericdabbs]

Because they're mandated by the NYC to be stealth setups. You will not see them unless you specifically know their locations or track them down somehow (pretty hard in the super urban zones like NYC). Most you'll see is a can antenna. 

 

So in these can antennas, are the RRUs, microwave backhaul, etc all inside the can antennas.  Where are the guts of a small cell setup like they are doing with Mobilite in LA Metro?

[lilotimz]

So in these can antennas, are the RRUs, microwave backhaul, etc all inside the can antennas.  Where are the guts of a small cell setup like they are doing with Mobilite in LA Metro?

 

A canister antenna in a cylindrical covering with radio equipment placed in an underground fault or at an enclosed box at the base. 

[anotherBAM]

These are what I assume are Verizon small cell's around my area. They have them all over the place at this point, ranging from retail areas like this to residential neighborhoods. I don't have a way to confirm they are Verizon, but they sure don't seem to be Sprint or AT&T and I don't think there's anyway they are T-Mobile. Anyway, they did a great job installing all of them. I bet most people don't even notice they are there.

 

If you turn yourself all the way around in that link, you can see a Sprint macro in the background that towers over the Sprint HQ.

[NYC126]

These are what I assume are Verizon small cell's around my area. They have them all over the place at this point, ranging from retail areas like this to residential neighborhoods. I don't have a way to confirm they are Verizon, but they sure don't seem to be Sprint or AT&T and I don't think there's anyway they are T-Mobile. Anyway, they did a great job installing all of them. I bet most people don't even notice they are there.

 

If you turn yourself all the way around in that link, you can see a Sprint macro in the background that towers over the Sprint HQ.

Those are Verizon Wireless small cells. Crown Castle has been installing those around my neighborhood for the last 30 days.

[dnicekid]

How is it Verizon seems to be flying in small cells and sprint not so much? I know it's hard to say? Didn't sprint announce their plan first?

Vzw will announce their completion first and take the wind from sprints sails because sprint will be catching up again.... Smh it's the never ending battle

[Paynefanbro]

Verizon never announced a plan. They've been doing small cells for way longer than Sprint at this point so their efforts are much more noticeable than Sprint's and they're obviously going to finish first. The fact that they've been at this way longer combined with their deep pockets means they'll definitely finish first.

 

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