Marcelo Claure, Town Hall Meetings, New Family Share Pack Plan, Unlimited Individual Plan, Discussion Thread

[WiWavelength]

*sigh* Fire up US Cellular LTE roaming and I'll be right over...

 

Bear in mind that any USCC LTE roaming likely still will be capped at the monthly quota, be that 100 MB or 300 MB.

 

AJ

[S4GRU]

Unless they join the RRPP with reciprocity.

[WiWavelength]

Unless they join the RRPP with reciprocity.

 

I do not expect that -- because I do not think USCC will overlay Sprint spectrum.  USCC is already set in that regard.  Plus, reciprocal "unlimited" could be commercial suicide for USCC, siphoning off subs like Sprke over to Sprint.

 

AJ

[bretton88]

I do not expect that -- because I do not think USCC will overlay Sprint spectrum. USCC is already set in that regard. Plus, reciprocal "unlimited" could be commercial suicide for USCC, siphoning off subs like Sprke over to Sprint.

 

AJ

Agreed, here in Iowa uscc is more expensive and capped. If they had full reciprocal roaming there would be no reason to go to uscc because you would get the better coverage for cheaper. The only reason I could see for uscc doing reciprocal roaming is so their existing customers can get nationwide LTE.

[WiWavelength]

Agreed, here in Iowa uscc is more expensive and capped. If they had full reciprocal roaming there would be no reason to go to uscc because you would get the better coverage for cheaper. The only reason I could see for uscc doing reciprocal roaming is so their existing customers can get nationwide LTE.

 

Well, let us define "reciprocal" roaming.  It does not necessarily entail pseudo native coverage, "unlimited" data, nor even included roaming.  Rather, it just means that two operators have bilateral roaming agreements.  They roam on each other.  For a counterexample, T-Mobile allows roaming on AT&T in places where AT&T prohibits roaming on T-Mobile.

 

So, what is USCC's current roaming data policy?  It has capped native data.  Is roaming data usage allowed all the way up to that cap?  Or is roaming data subject to a lower quota?

 

AJ

[S4GRU]

Right now, all announced RRPP partners will be providing Sprint customers LTE service that will be treated the same as if they were on Sprint service. It is possible that will change to allow USCC to join the RRPP. Or maybe USCC won't even join for that reason. Or Sprint changes the RRPP plan for all members to have a monthly limit.

 

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[lou99/maximus1987]

Right now, all announced RRPP partners will be providing Sprint customers LTE service that will be treated the same as if they were on Sprint service. It is possible that will change to allow USCC to join the RRPP. Or maybe USCC won't even join for that reason. Or Sprint changes the RRPP plan for all members to have a monthly limit.

 

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I really can't see how USCc can be so choosey. Won't it slowly die as other 4 carriers slowly expand onto it's territory?

 

 

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[caspar347]

I really can't see how USCc can be so choosey. Won't it slowly die as other 4 carriers slowly expand onto it's territory?

 

 

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Yeah, I feel like partnering with Sprint is their best hope for long-term survival as an independent company. Clearly the owners don't want to sell out, but they will likely eventually have to if they don't do some sort of partnership with one the big 4. If they refuse all offers, sale or partnership, the big 4 will probably just try to steamroll into their territory at some point when it is convenient and win over customers by offering better deals than USCC can due to economies of scale.

 

If they partner with Sprint, they can act like Shentel and focus their efforts on offering great service within their regions and let Sprint worry about everything else.

[Sprke]

I do not expect that -- because I do not think USCC will overlay Sprint spectrum. USCC is already set in that regard. Plus, reciprocal "unlimited" could be commercial suicide for USCC, siphoning off subs like Sprke over to Sprint.

 

AJ

I'm not with US Cellular, I'm with Verizon the only other option in my area besides US Cellular.. I was thinking that data on US Cellular wouldn't be subject to the roaming cap but I see I may be wrong on that reading the responses.. If so I'll be stuck on Verizon unless sprint expands.

[WiWavelength]

I'm not with US Cellular, I'm with Verizon the only other option in my area besides US Cellular.. I was thinking that data on US Cellular wouldn't be subject to the roaming cap but I see I may be wrong on that reading the responses.. If so I'll be stuck on Verizon unless sprint expands.

 

I did not mean to imply that you were a USCC sub.  I was not certain of that, only that reciprocal "unlimited" data could entice many USCC subs with a mindset similar to yours to port to Sprint.  That would be an unfair situation for USCC.

 

Sprint already ran into that issue previously with its Sprint Rural Alliance members.  People who lived in SRA pseudo native coverage were signing up with Sprint, then using SRA partner coverage nearly 100 percent of the time.  That was bad -- not for the subs but for the operators.  And it may be why the SRA program basically bit the dust, transitioning from pseudo native coverage to roaming coverage.

 

AJ

[WiWavelength]

I really can't see how USCc can be so choosey. Won't it slowly die as other 4 carriers slowly expand onto it's territory?

 

You need to take into account what proportion of USCC subs are in its major markets:  Milwaukee, Oklahoma City, Omaha, Tulsa, Knoxville, Des Moines, etc.  USCC already competes against the big four in those markets -- except for Omaha, where T-Mobile has just pussyfooted around for over a decade.

 

AJ

[jreuschl]

USCC at least in Wisconsin has a good reputation.  I'm sure them having 850MHz coverage all over helps.  I think their image took a bit of a hit when they upgraded their billing system and users had problems.  Plus they have better rural coverage than most.

 

I don't know if they were as good in IL because I believe their network was 1900MHz (PCS from the old PrimeCo)

 

Verizon in WI is one of the few 1900MHz markets they have because PrimeCo in WI > Verizon.

[greencat]

You need to take into account what proportion of USCC subs are in its major markets:  Milwaukee, Oklahoma City, Omaha, Tulsa, Knoxville, Des Moines, etc.  USCC already competes against the big four in those markets -- except for Omaha, where T-Mobile has just pussyfooted around for over a decade.

 

AJ

people dont get USCC because they live in those markets, they get it because they want service when they travel outside of those markets to the other small towns in the area. For example: when you live in Des Moines and you want to take a day trip down to Knoxville (Iowa, not Tennessee) and visit Peace Tree Brewery and go boating its nice to have a usable phone signal instead of 1 bar that's on roaming with data service that's too slow to even register and drains your battery superfast.

[lou99/maximus1987]

What's farthest someone has seen 1x800 traveling and 800 lte?

 

 

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[S4GRU]

What's farthest someone has seen 1x800 traveling and 800 lte?

 

 

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For me, CDMA 800 at 45 miles east of Cheyenne, Wyoming. LTE 800 at 25 miles in Nebraska. I have had about 35 miles on AT&T LTE 700 out on the prairies, and Sprint LTE 800 probably can get pretty close to that in the same ideal situation.

 

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[lou99/maximus1987]

For me, CDMA 800 at 45 miles east of Cheyenne, Wyoming. LTE 800 at 25 miles in Nebraska. I have had about 35 miles on AT&T LTE 700 out on the prairies, and Sprint LTE 800 probably can get pretty close to that in the same ideal situation.

 

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What about lte 1700 or 1900 on any carrier?

And Hspa 1900, CDMA 19001x, evdo. Thanks

 

 

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[S4GRU]

 

 

What about lte 1700 or 1900 on any carrier?

And Hspa 1900, CDMA 19001x, evdo. Thanks

 

 

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For me

 

AWS LTE about 13-15 miles (AT&T)

LTE 1900 about 15 miles (Sprint)

WCDMA 850 about 35-40 miles (AT&T)

WCDMA 1900 about 25 miles (Viaero)

CDMA 1900 around 30 miles (Sprint)

CDMA 850 around 65 miles (Verizon, on a mountaintop)

 

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[bmoses]

What's farthest someone has seen 1x800 traveling and 800 lte?

 

 

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my furthest 1x800 connection was 62 miles. it was when they first started bring up 1x800 around here, an interstate tower to the north of me got it and i connected to it in my house. i was running the higher priority PRL at the time since i was hunting for 1x800 signals.

[IamMrFamous07]

Marcelo has been pretty quiet. Wonder whats going on at the Sprint HQs

[S4GRU]

Marcelo has been pretty quiet. Wonder whats going on at the Sprint HQs

Wonder and amazement. It's like the Wonka Chocolate Factory.

 

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[JThorson]

 

 

[jamesinclair]

Marcelo has been pretty quiet. Wonder whats going on at the Sprint HQs

 

Maybe hes with Putin?

[cdk]

Maybe hes with Putin?

 

[Conan Kudo]

What about lte 1700 or 1900 on any carrier?

And Hspa 1900, CDMA 19001x, evdo. Thanks

 

 

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Where I used to live, these were the ranges I saw:

• LTE 700 around 50 miles (AT&T)
• LTE 750 around 45 miles (Verizon)
• AWS LTE around 20 miles (Verizon)
• LTE 1900 around 12 miles (Sprint)
• WCDMA 850 around 50 miles (AT&T)
• AWS WCDMA around 18 miles (T-Mobile)
• WCDMA 1900 around 25 miles (T-Mobile)
• CDMA 1900 around 20 miles (Verizon)
• CDMA 850 around 50 miles (C Spire)

[Johnner1999]

So AT&T now claims the strongest LTE Signal

 

Which is cool and all -- but what about backhaul or density of spectrum in any one area, no?  

 

http://www.androidheadlines.com/2015/03/att-uses-full-court-press-push-strongest-4g-lte-signal.html