IamMrFamous07 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Do you think in time Sprint would acquire all of US cell? I mean they use the same frequencies and it will give sprint more 850 spectrum in rural areas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericdabbs Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Do you think in time Sprint would acquire all of US cell? I mean they use the same frequencies and it will give sprint more 850 spectrum in rural areas the problem is that Sprint has too many deals going on with the softbank/clearwire merger and the pending UScellular spectrum deal. Also if Sprint did buy US Cellular at a future date that Sprint would want to spend the resources to incorporate the 850 MHz band when its just for the rural areas. Sprint would contend that their 800 MHz CDMA and LTE services would do just the job not only in rural America but all over the US since they have all of the 800 MHz spectrum licenses. A buyout of US Cellular would be useful only for their PCS and AWS spectrum. The 700 and 850 MHz spectrum licenses would be worthless to Sprint and would be better off selling them to ATT or Verizon for efficient use of the spectrum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChadBroChillz Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Why would Sprint rather have the AWS over the 850? It would be easier to integrate the 850 into their network, plus they would already have BRS for higher frequency spectrum. Their phones already support CDMA 850 and their LTE tri-band phones will support LTE 850, since LTE band 26 includes 800 and 850. I initially wanted sprint to merger with USCC, but I feel like sprint would probably be better just slowly expanding using their 800Mhz. I do believe that USCC will be the likely candidate, if Softbank is looking to merge. They probably know that they will never reach number 2 if sprint does not close the coverage gap between themselves and ATT/Verizon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsnake49 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I thought they should have acquired/merged with them a long time ago along with alltel. Sprint would have reduced their roaming bill and gained coverage credibility instantly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamMrFamous07 Posted April 8, 2013 Author Share Posted April 8, 2013 Well Hesse did say they are constantly looking for more spectrum and with Sprint already buying USCC Midwest market, it just makes since to acquire the rest. But yes Sprint has to focus on its deal with SoftBank and Clearwire first and also the current spectrum deal it has with USCC. Does the FCC plan on having another spectrum auction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobilesolutions Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 They spent nearly $500 million dollars to to buy the portion of USCC that benefits Sprint most financially, i believe it was imperative at the time to buy USCC because of spectrum license conflictions specifically in the Chicago & STL market. Assuming the valuation remains constant id value the rest of USCC at no more than 4 Billion. USCC would have to lose all hope internally to sell for that. And Sprint should never pay it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynyrd65 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I don't want anyone to acquire US Cellular. I dont want to see competition reduced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deval Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I think AJ put together a great spectrum map for USCC, and the findings were not all that impressive, in terms of what Sprint would gain. Thoughts on that, AJ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellimel2212 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Yeah I want these smaller carriers to step up and give all the big 4 competition but USCC is the only regional carrier close enough to be a 5th choice. Sent from my Sprint Galaxy Nexus rockin 4.2.2 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffDTD Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 USCC would have to lose all hope internally to sell for that. Ding ding ding.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiWavelength Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 They spent nearly $500 million dollars to to buy the portion of USCC that benefits Sprint most financially, i believe it was imperative at the time to buy USCC because of spectrum license conflictions specifically in the Chicago & STL market. Not exactly. Spectrum wise, Sprint benefits greatly in Chicago but not in St. Louis, which was already set. Both Chicago and St. Louis are/were underperforming markets for USCC, and honestly, St. Louis was probably a rider that USCC tacked on to the sale. If Sprint wanted Chicago, it had to take St. Louis off USCC's hands, too. AJ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobilesolutions Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Not exactly. Spectrum wise, Sprint benefits greatly in Chicago but not in St. Louis, which was already set. Both Chicago and St. Louis are/were underperforming markets for USCC, and honestly, St. Louis was probably a rider that USCC tacked on to the sale. If Sprint wanted Chicago, it had to take St. Louis off USCC's hands, too. AJ Sounds a lot like the bundle sale of landrover & jaguar to Tata Motors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiWavelength Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Sounds a lot like the bundle sale of landrover & jaguar to Tata Motors. Heh heh heh, you said, "Tata." I realize that Tata is an Indian conglomerate and that names mean different things in different cultures, but that one always gets me as one of the most laughable names out there. Now, I just wish that I could learn more about the Tata Group, hopefully get a good "feel" for two of its divisions. AJ 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefbal99 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I thought they should have acquired/merged with them a long time ago along with alltel. Sprint would have reduced their roaming bill and gained coverage credibility instantly. Alltel tried to buy/merge with Sprint years ago and Sprint shot them down. This was a few years before the merger with big red. Sprint got royally screwed in that deal as Sprint and Alltel had reciprocal roaming as native coverage. IE Alltel 3g appeared as Sprint to Sprint devices and Sprint 3g appeared as Alltel coverage to Alltel devices. Sprint had to greatly reduce their coverage maps when that deal went through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraydog Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 St. Louis is already a much larger market for Sprint market share wise than USCC is/was. That said, the extra spectrum will be an aid there if Sprint wants to further go after AT&T which is the dominant player in that market. St. Louis is the biggest third round market for Sprint BY FAR as far as market share and number of customers. I'm frankly shocked at the decision making that got it plugged into the third round. Sprint has more customers than Verizon in St. Louis. No, I'm not making that up. Verizon always had more sketchy coverage than almost any of the major carriers in St. Louis. They also had more issues with LTE outages there than anywhere else in the country. Plus there's the bizarre element of the equation, that St. Louis is an area with good working AT&T service, something you can't say about a LOT of places in the US. They not only have the fastest LTE there, but also the best coverage and from what I know, the least dropped calls. I call this Bizarro AT&T because it's out of line compared to the rest of the AT&T network I used from 2005-2011 through the rest of the country. If USCC has to sell out, I would hope it's to T-Mobile in a MetroPCS like deal where T-Mobile primarly uses it to fix their number one weakness, rural coverage, as well as being used to reduce DT's stake and give the Carlson family a national wireless play. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omega Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 St. Louis is already a much larger market for Sprint market share wise than USCC is/was. That said' date=' the extra spectrum will be an aid there if Sprint wants to further go after AT&T which is the dominant player in that market. St. Louis is the biggest third round market for Sprint BY FAR as far as market share and number of customers. I'm frankly shocked at the decision making that got it plugged into the third round. Sprint has more customers than Verizon in St. Louis.[/quote'] Hi, Where do you find the number of subs per carrier's, I would love to see a thread of market by market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraydog Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Hi, Where do you find the number of subs per carrier's, I would love to see a thread of market by market. http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1766584-Number-of-VZW-subscribers-(and-other-carriers)-per-market Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rukin1 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Us Celluar is a dying company. They are going to fall soon. Someone needs to buy them out lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynyrd65 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Us Celluar is a dying company. They are going to fall soon. Someone needs to buy them out lol What? They are still profitable and show no signs of falling as a company. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rukin1 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 What? They are still profitable and show no signs of falling as a company. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2 Well Not anytime soon i should refraise. They just haven't kept up with the big names Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickie546 Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 St. Louis is already a much larger market for Sprint market share wise than USCC is/was. That said, the extra spectrum will be an aid there if Sprint wants to further go after AT&T which is the dominant player in that market. St. Louis is the biggest third round market for Sprint BY FAR as far as market share and number of customers. I'm frankly shocked at the decision making that got it plugged into the third round. Sprint has more customers than Verizon in St. Louis. No, I'm not making that up. Verizon always had more sketchy coverage than almost any of the major carriers in St. Louis. They also had more issues with LTE outages there than anywhere else in the country. Plus there's the bizarre element of the equation, that St. Louis is an area with good working AT&T service, something you can't say about a LOT of places in the US. They not only have the fastest LTE there, but also the best coverage and from what I know, the least dropped calls. I call this Bizarro AT&T because it's out of line compared to the rest of the AT&T network I used from 2005-2011 through the rest of the country. If USCC has to sell out, I would hope it's to T-Mobile in a MetroPCS like deal where T-Mobile primarly uses it to fix their number one weakness, rural coverage, as well as being used to reduce DT's stake and give the Carlson family a national wireless play. Well one factor could be crews. One company from St Louis, AMF, was doing alot of towers in the Kansas market, now that of those are done they can work in STL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiWavelength Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Well one factor could be crews. One company from St Louis, AMF, was doing alot of towers in the Kansas market, now that of those are done they can work in STL ...or go bowling. AJ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraydog Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 ...or go bowling. AJ Or the dark days where AMF owned Harley Davidson and almost ruined their brand. The AMF Harleys were such junk. Damn near killed Evel Knevel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusherb Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 St. Louis is already a much larger market for Sprint market share wise than USCC is/was. That said, the extra spectrum will be an aid there if Sprint wants to further go after AT&T which is the dominant player in that market. St. Louis is the biggest third round market for Sprint BY FAR as far as market share and number of customers. I'm frankly shocked at the decision making that got it plugged into the third round. Sprint has more customers than Verizon in St. Louis. No, I'm not making that up. Verizon always had more sketchy coverage than almost any of the major carriers in St. Louis. They also had more issues with LTE outages there than anywhere else in the country. Plus there's the bizarre element of the equation, that St. Louis is an area with good working AT&T service, something you can't say about a LOT of places in the US. They not only have the fastest LTE there, but also the best coverage and from what I know, the least dropped calls. I call this Bizarro AT&T because it's out of line compared to the rest of the AT&T network I used from 2005-2011 through the rest of the country. If USCC has to sell out, I would hope it's to T-Mobile in a MetroPCS like deal where T-Mobile primarly uses it to fix their number one weakness, rural coverage, as well as being used to reduce DT's stake and give the Carlson family a national wireless play. I had that same "bizzarro AT&T" experience in Colorado. It was almost surreal that I consistently got 5 bars everywhere I went, and decent HSPA speeds too. Like many places, what I was used to was their network in Chicago which felt very "piecemealed" and botched up. Service quality was very inconsistent. I always have a consistent voice service experience on Sprint wherever I go, LTE as long as I'm connected is very consistent, EVDO is the only thing that swings all over the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technicholas Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I talked to some "supervisor" at Sprint and he was sure that Sprint bought US Cellular I was like uhh I don't think so. He said it was waiting for approval I am like ok.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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