Jump to content

Should Sprint just acquire US Celluar


IamMrFamous07

Recommended Posts

Do you think in time Sprint would acquire all of US cell? I mean they use the same frequencies and it will give sprint more 850 spectrum in rural areas

 

the problem is that Sprint has too many deals going on with the softbank/clearwire merger and the pending UScellular spectrum deal. Also if Sprint did buy US Cellular at a future date that Sprint would want to spend the resources to incorporate the 850 MHz band when its just for the rural areas. Sprint would contend that their 800 MHz CDMA and LTE services would do just the job not only in rural America but all over the US since they have all of the 800 MHz spectrum licenses.

 

A buyout of US Cellular would be useful only for their PCS and AWS spectrum. The 700 and 850 MHz spectrum licenses would be worthless to Sprint and would be better off selling them to ATT or Verizon for efficient use of the spectrum.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Why would Sprint rather have the AWS over the 850? It would be easier to integrate the 850 into their network, plus they would already have BRS for higher frequency spectrum. Their phones already support CDMA 850 and their LTE tri-band phones will support LTE 850, since LTE band 26 includes 800 and 850.

 

I initially wanted sprint to merger with USCC, but I feel like sprint would probably be better just slowly expanding using their 800Mhz. I do believe that USCC will be the likely candidate, if Softbank is looking to merge. They probably know that they will never reach number 2 if sprint does not close the coverage gap between themselves and ATT/Verizon.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Well Hesse did say they are constantly looking for more spectrum and with Sprint already buying USCC Midwest market, it just makes since to acquire the rest. But yes Sprint has to focus on its deal with SoftBank and Clearwire first and also the current spectrum deal it has with USCC.

 

 

Does the FCC plan on having another spectrum auction?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

They spent nearly $500 million dollars to to buy the portion of USCC that benefits Sprint most financially, i believe it was imperative at the time to buy USCC because of spectrum license conflictions specifically in the Chicago & STL market. Assuming the valuation remains constant id value the rest of USCC at no more than 4 Billion. USCC would have to lose all hope internally to sell for that. And Sprint should never pay it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I think AJ put together a great spectrum map for USCC, and the findings were not all that impressive, in terms of what Sprint would gain.

 

Thoughts on that, AJ?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

They spent nearly $500 million dollars to to buy the portion of USCC that benefits Sprint most financially, i believe it was imperative at the time to buy USCC because of spectrum license conflictions specifically in the Chicago & STL market.

 

Not exactly. Spectrum wise, Sprint benefits greatly in Chicago but not in St. Louis, which was already set. Both Chicago and St. Louis are/were underperforming markets for USCC, and honestly, St. Louis was probably a rider that USCC tacked on to the sale. If Sprint wanted Chicago, it had to take St. Louis off USCC's hands, too.

 

AJ

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

 

 

Not exactly. Spectrum wise, Sprint benefits greatly in Chicago but not in St. Louis, which was already set. Both Chicago and St. Louis are/were underperforming markets for USCC, and honestly, St. Louis was probably a rider that USCC tacked on to the sale. If Sprint wanted Chicago, it had to take St. Louis off USCC's hands, too.

 

AJ

 

Sounds a lot like the bundle sale of landrover & jaguar to Tata Motors.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sounds a lot like the bundle sale of landrover & jaguar to Tata Motors.

 

Heh heh heh, you said, "Tata."

 

I realize that Tata is an Indian conglomerate and that names mean different things in different cultures, but that one always gets me as one of the most laughable names out there.

 

Now, I just wish that I could learn more about the Tata Group, hopefully get a good "feel" for two of its divisions.

 

;)

 

AJ

  • Like 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I thought they should have acquired/merged with them a long time ago along with alltel. Sprint would have reduced their roaming bill and gained coverage credibility instantly.

 

Alltel tried to buy/merge with Sprint years ago and Sprint shot them down. This was a few years before the merger with big red.

 

Sprint got royally screwed in that deal as Sprint and Alltel had reciprocal roaming as native coverage. IE Alltel 3g appeared as Sprint to Sprint devices and Sprint 3g appeared as Alltel coverage to Alltel devices. Sprint had to greatly reduce their coverage maps when that deal went through.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

St. Louis is already a much larger market for Sprint market share wise than USCC is/was. That said, the extra spectrum will be an aid there if Sprint wants to further go after AT&T which is the dominant player in that market.

 

St. Louis is the biggest third round market for Sprint BY FAR as far as market share and number of customers. I'm frankly shocked at the decision making that got it plugged into the third round. Sprint has more customers than Verizon in St. Louis. No, I'm not making that up. Verizon always had more sketchy coverage than almost any of the major carriers in St. Louis. They also had more issues with LTE outages there than anywhere else in the country. Plus there's the bizarre element of the equation, that St. Louis is an area with good working AT&T service, something you can't say about a LOT of places in the US. They not only have the fastest LTE there, but also the best coverage and from what I know, the least dropped calls. I call this Bizarro AT&T because it's out of line compared to the rest of the AT&T network I used from 2005-2011 through the rest of the country.

 

If USCC has to sell out, I would hope it's to T-Mobile in a MetroPCS like deal where T-Mobile primarly uses it to fix their number one weakness, rural coverage, as well as being used to reduce DT's stake and give the Carlson family a national wireless play.

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

St. Louis is already a much larger market for Sprint market share wise than USCC is/was. That said' date=' the extra spectrum will be an aid there if Sprint wants to further go after AT&T which is the dominant player in that market.

 

St. Louis is the biggest third round market for Sprint BY FAR as far as market share and number of customers. I'm frankly shocked at the decision making that got it plugged into the third round. Sprint has more customers than Verizon in St. Louis.[/quote']

 

Hi,

 

Where do you find the number of subs per carrier's, I would love to see a thread of market by market.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Us Celluar is a dying company. They are going to fall soon. Someone needs to buy them out lol

 

What? They are still profitable and show no signs of falling as a company.

 

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2

 

 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

What? They are still profitable and show no signs of falling as a company.

 

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2

Well Not anytime soon i should refraise. They just haven't kept up with the big names
Link to comment
Share on other sites

St. Louis is already a much larger market for Sprint market share wise than USCC is/was. That said, the extra spectrum will be an aid there if Sprint wants to further go after AT&T which is the dominant player in that market.

 

St. Louis is the biggest third round market for Sprint BY FAR as far as market share and number of customers. I'm frankly shocked at the decision making that got it plugged into the third round. Sprint has more customers than Verizon in St. Louis. No, I'm not making that up. Verizon always had more sketchy coverage than almost any of the major carriers in St. Louis. They also had more issues with LTE outages there than anywhere else in the country. Plus there's the bizarre element of the equation, that St. Louis is an area with good working AT&T service, something you can't say about a LOT of places in the US. They not only have the fastest LTE there, but also the best coverage and from what I know, the least dropped calls. I call this Bizarro AT&T because it's out of line compared to the rest of the AT&T network I used from 2005-2011 through the rest of the country.

 

If USCC has to sell out, I would hope it's to T-Mobile in a MetroPCS like deal where T-Mobile primarly uses it to fix their number one weakness, rural coverage, as well as being used to reduce DT's stake and give the Carlson family a national wireless play.

 

Well one factor could be crews. One company from St Louis, AMF, was doing alot of towers in the Kansas market, now that of those are done they can work in STL

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Well one factor could be crews. One company from St Louis, AMF, was doing alot of towers in the Kansas market, now that of those are done they can work in STL

 

...or go bowling.

 

;)

 

AJ

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

...or go bowling.

 

;)

 

AJ

 

Or the dark days where AMF owned Harley Davidson and almost ruined their brand. The AMF Harleys were such junk.

 

 

Damn near killed Evel Knevel. :angry:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

St. Louis is already a much larger market for Sprint market share wise than USCC is/was. That said, the extra spectrum will be an aid there if Sprint wants to further go after AT&T which is the dominant player in that market.

 

St. Louis is the biggest third round market for Sprint BY FAR as far as market share and number of customers. I'm frankly shocked at the decision making that got it plugged into the third round. Sprint has more customers than Verizon in St. Louis. No, I'm not making that up. Verizon always had more sketchy coverage than almost any of the major carriers in St. Louis. They also had more issues with LTE outages there than anywhere else in the country. Plus there's the bizarre element of the equation, that St. Louis is an area with good working AT&T service, something you can't say about a LOT of places in the US. They not only have the fastest LTE there, but also the best coverage and from what I know, the least dropped calls. I call this Bizarro AT&T because it's out of line compared to the rest of the AT&T network I used from 2005-2011 through the rest of the country.

 

If USCC has to sell out, I would hope it's to T-Mobile in a MetroPCS like deal where T-Mobile primarly uses it to fix their number one weakness, rural coverage, as well as being used to reduce DT's stake and give the Carlson family a national wireless play.

 

I had that same "bizzarro AT&T" experience in Colorado. It was almost surreal that I consistently got 5 bars everywhere I went, and decent HSPA speeds too.

 

Like many places, what I was used to was their network in Chicago which felt very "piecemealed" and botched up. Service quality was very inconsistent. I always have a consistent voice service experience on Sprint wherever I go, LTE as long as I'm connected is very consistent, EVDO is the only thing that swings all over the place.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
×
  • Create New...