Network Vision/LTE - Upper Central Valley Market (Sacramento, Stockton, Redding, Eureka & Reno/Lake Tahoe)

[lilotimz]

This is a future network question Tim and/or Robert. When VoLTE finally starts to roll out couldn't they re-use the Sprint Spectrum from all the CDMA/3G carriers and re-purpose that spectrum for LTE 1900 carriers or VoLTE 1900? That would increase capacity for Sprint's Sacramento PCS Spectrum and all carriers would be LTE right?

Nope.

 

Shutting down for another 5 mhz pcs carrier means shunting EVDO and 1x carrier to a 5mhz slice for one 1x carrier and two EVDO carriers. Not going to happen. Too much users on 3g still.

 

You're looking at years in the future before that can even been contemplated.

 

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[kytopgun]

Nope.

 

Shutting down for another 5 mhz pcs carrier means shunting EVDO and 1x carrier to a 5mhz slice for one 1x carrier and two EVDO carriers. Not going to happen. Too much users on 3g still.

 

You're looking at years in the future before that can even been contemplated.

 

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Ok. That makes sense. Years in the future...darn. I guess this would work if they could get everyone off 3G and onto LTE, but Sprint doesn't have much in 1900 or 800 spectrum to shift things around until they can get everyone completely off 3G to re-purpose the pcs spectrum. Interesting.

[lilotimz]

Ok. That makes sense. Years in the future...darn. I guess this would work if they could get everyone off 3G and onto LTE, but Sprint doesn't have much in 1900 or 800 spectrum to shift things around until they can get everyone completely off 3G to re-purpose the pcs spectrum. Interesting.

And that's why I keep saying band 41 and triband devices are the only things that'll save this market.

 

 

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[agsaguy]

I hope that the new iPhone 6 will have band 41!

[S4GRU]

This is a future network question Tim and/or Robert. When VoLTE finally starts to roll out couldn't they re-use the Sprint Spectrum from all the CDMA/3G carriers and re-purpose that spectrum for LTE 1900 carriers or VoLTE 1900? That would increase capacity for Sprint's Sacramento PCS Spectrum and all carriers would be LTE right?

This can be done in some markets. But not Sacramento. Sprint does not have enough spare PCS spectrum to do this in your market anytime soon.

 

As VoLTE adoption grows and voice on 1x drops and 3G usage drops far enough, and Sprint can live with just CDMA on less than 5MHz, then Sprint could add another PCS LTE carrier in Sacto. But I think in the best case scenario, that's still 3 years out.

[agsaguy]

This can be done in some markets. But not Sacramento. Sprint does not have enough spare PCS spectrum to do this in your market anytime soon.

 

As VoLTE adoption grows and voice on 1x drops and 3G usage drops far enough, and Sprint can live with just CDMA on less than 5MHz, then Sprint could add another PCS LTE carrier in Sacto. But I think in the best case scenario, that's still 3 years out.

 

Do you think Sprint is going to participate in the AWS-3 coming up in a few months? I think it would be great since AWS is similar to PCS, but not as bad in signal penetrate as EBS/BRS band since their network is built on PCS spacing. Or do you think they will save their pennies and go all in on the 600Mz auction next year?

[vlee]

Each 20 MHz carrier supports speeds of 101/14.7 Mbps.. 

 

I wonder why upload is slower than download?

[lilotimz]

I wonder why upload is slower than download?

 

It's the uplink-downlink configuration Sprint has chosen for the network (6:3). 

 

[Nuno916]

Holy crap after waiting for a long time I finally get some LTE in midtown. I'm at 16th and C street..

Edited September 8, 2014 by Nuno916

[OctoInk]

I'm getting LTE at Exposition Blvd near 160 (REI)

 

54ms Ping

19.58 D/L

9.10 U/L

 

Gotta hand it to Sprint, they finally came through.  Also, getting great speeds in Midtown, but call quality is still a bit fuzzy.

[lilotimz]

Cough

 

http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/3913-network-vision-site-acceptance-report-updates/?p=359833

 

• Upper Central Valley - 9 updates (1 3G, 8 LTE)

Maps are updated.

Robert

 

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[jwigley]

Holy crap after waiting for a long time I finally get some LTE in midtown. I'm at 16th and C street..

 

 

So that's by muir park and the blue diamond almonds factory. Very cool.

[jwigley]

Is the Galaxy S5 a tri band phone?

[lilotimz]

Is the Galaxy S5 a tri band phone?

 

Yes. 

 

Any high end and mid end device released since November of 2013 has been a Triband phone. 

[legendary]

Hold on. So a note 2/s3 isn't going to work well here in Davis?

[S4GRU]

Hold on. So a note 2/s3 isn't going to work well here in Davis?

No. I would not, could not get a Note 2 or 3 in Davis...in Yolo County...in Northern California. If data performance is critical to you, you must get a Triband phone. Band 26 and Band 41 are a necessity in California.

[Dkoellerwx]

Unless the coverage maps have suddenly gone haywire, it looks like Sprint has formally launched LTE in the Sacramento area!

[jp1992]

Unless the coverage maps have suddenly gone haywire, it looks like Sprint has formally launched LTE in the Sacramento area!

Not yet. 

 

http://newsroom.sprint.com/news-releases/4glte-launchedmarkets.htm

 

We still need more LTE coverage to be considered launched. 

[Dkoellerwx]

Not yet. 

 

http://newsroom.sprint.com/news-releases/4glte-launchedmarkets.htm

 

We still need more LTE coverage to be considered launched.

Forget that, they always update the maps before an announcement. Look at the coverage map.

http://coverage.sprint.com/action/WebImageStream11?covType=ltetriband&serviceType=data&mapcenterx=-121.49333190917969&mapcentery=38.58339309692383&geocenterx=-121.493329&geocentery=38.581669&endlinex=&endliney=&scale=25.0&width=420&height=315&showPinpoint=T&signalStrength=T&antiAlias=T&layers=FFFFFFTTTFFFFF

[lilotimz]

That's insane. They're launching with less than 20-30% coverage.

 

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[Dkoellerwx]

That's insane. They're launching with less than 20-30% coverage.

 

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Yeah... I don't know if there's some sort of glitch going on or what. A lot of places are showing up now that shouldn't be.

[lilotimz]

Yeah... I don't know if there's some sort of glitch going on or what. A lot of places are showing up now that shouldn't be.

They literally have huge regions important areas with no lte. This market is most definitely not ready.

 

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[jp1992]

Forget that, they always update the maps before an announcement. Look at the coverage map.

http://coverage.sprint.com/action/WebImageStream11?covType=ltetriband&serviceType=data&mapcenterx=-121.49333190917969&mapcentery=38.58339309692383&geocenterx=-121.493329&geocentery=38.581669&endlinex=&endliney=&scale=25.0&width=420&height=315&showPinpoint=T&signalStrength=T&antiAlias=T&layers=FFFFFFTTTFFFFF

No way that is even close to accurate.  That is really misleading if sales is going to be using this in stores.

[sharward]

I wonder if they're trying to get a jump on iPhone 6 pre-orders and are doing everything they can to show a pretty picture, even if it's not real yet...

[briank86]

Most iphone users won't even know the difference between Network Vision improved EV-DO and LTE when streaming music or checking email.