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Calvin200 Member Level: 3G EVDO

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When someone says its not possible to get 31 down and 9 up with the non-mimo tech that Sprint uses how do I correct that misnomer. What is the scientific way of explaining that it is possible because a speed test result isn't apparently good enough.  I want this person to be completely put in his place because that speed test did not lie to me.      

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If I'm reading this correctly, you have to pay $60 a month, which includes 3GB of data, in order to qualify for the data stash.   At that point, I might as well pay $60 for Sprint for unlimited. Who

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This thread has become tedious, repetitious, and at least to me increasingly annoying.  Ok, there are Sprint fanatics who don't like T-Mobile.  And there are T-Mobile fanatics who don't like Sprint. 

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A couple of thoughts after listening all the way through:   1. LeGere has his competitive sights set firmly on Verizon and AT&T, because they have the market share to steal, and they have the bu

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CaryTheLabelGuy Member Level: eHRPD

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When someone says its not possible to get 31 down and 9 up with the non-mimo tech that Sprint uses how do I correct that misnomer. What is the scientific way of explaining that it is possible because a speed test result isn't apparently good enough. I want this person to be completely put in his place because that speed test did not lie to me.

Tell him he's an idiot.

 

In all seriousness, the math is simple. 5x5mhz FDD-LTE can do about 37mbps max with a good airlink on an unloaded sector. Sprint B25/B26 is currently running a 5x5mhz configuration. I hit 30+Mbps all the time on both B25 and B26, in a major metropolitan market.

 

As for TD-LTE B41, it is configured in 20mhz carriers. Currently, only one 20mhz carrier is enabled on a 3:2 ratio, which has a theoretical max speed of about 85mbps. Sprint will be adding 2 more 20mhz carriers for a total of 60mhz (20x20x20) in carrier aggregation very soon. I have plenty of 80mbps speed tests from B41 sites.

 

Some people don't care about the facts. MIMO doesn't magically change the math, it just changes how many people can get those max speeds and how well they can still get good speeds as their airlink deteriorates at the edge of cell.

 

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lilotimz Member Level: LTE Advanced

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As for TD-LTE B41, it is configured in 20mhz carriers. Currently, only one 20mhz carrier is enabled on a 3:2 ratio, which has a theoretical max speed of about 85mbps. Sprint will be adding 2 more 20mhz carriers for a total of 60mhz (20x20x20) in carrier aggregation very soon. I have plenty of 80mbps speed tests from B41 sites.

 

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Jesus Christ people it's 6:3 TDD ratio (101/14.7).

 

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CaryTheLabelGuy Member Level: eHRPD

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Jesus Christ people it's 6:3 TDD ratio (101/14.7).

 

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Easy there, Haus. No need for that.

 

I originally typed 6:3 100/15, but then I googled to be sure and got confused.

 

 

 

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WiWavelength Member Level: LTE Advanced

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When someone says its not possible to get 31 down and 9 up with the non-mimo tech that Sprint uses how do I correct that misnomer. What is the scientific way of explaining that it is possible because a speed test result isn't apparently good enough.  I want this person to be completely put in his place because that speed test did not lie to me.      

 

At a minimum, LTE requires 2x2 MIMO on the downlink.  Anyone who says otherwise spreads FUD or knows not what he is a talking about.  So, Sprint's LTE MIMO is the same as AT&T's LTE MIMO and VZW's LTE MIMO.

 

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PDXmike Member Level: 4G WiMax

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Easy there, Haus. No need for that.

I originally typed 6:3 100/15, but then I googled to be sure and got confused.

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Found it for ya: http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/5816-tdd-lte-2600-band-41-8t8r-map-discussion-thread/?p=330442

 

If memory serves, Sprint/Clearwire used the 3:2 ratio during testing, which could be what your Google search found.

 

When it comes to band 41 TDD LTE, I'd go with Tim over Google. ;)

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Found it for ya: http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/5816-tdd-lte-2600-band-41-8t8r-map-discussion-thread/?p=330442

 

If memory serves, Sprint/Clearwire used the 3:2 ratio during testing, which could be what your Google search found.

 

When it comes to band 41 TDD LTE, I'd go with Tim over Google. ;)

Thanks for the link. You're correct, this is where I got the 3:2.

 

I didn't say I didn't trust Tim - I just don't appreciate the nasty attitude. It is rude and goes against what this site is all about.

 

 

 

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PDXmike Member Level: 4G WiMax

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Thanks for the link. You're correct, this is where I got the 3:2.

I didn't say I didn't trust Tim - I just don't appreciate the nasty attitude. It is rude and goes against what this site is all about.

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Oh, I know. I just put that last line in to lighten the mood.

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danlodish345 Member Level: LTE Advanced

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Open your Dialer and dial *#0011# which will open a service menu that will show you which band you are connected to.

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Tapatalk. Post the link from imgur.

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thank you for that and I was completely mistake tmobile has 10mhz of aws spectrum deployed hm...what does the customer or customers get per spectral slice...
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thank you for that and I was completely mistake tmobile has 10mhz of aws spectrum deployed hm...what does the customer or customers get per spectral slice...

I don't know.

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Rawvega Member Level: 4G LTE

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And tmobile did all this with a 2 billion breakup fee from att.

 

It was more than that actually.

 

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/12/20/att-and-t-mobile-whats-2-billion-among-friends/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0

 

In announcing on Monday that it was ending the $39 billion takeover attempt, AT&T said it would pay T-Mobile’s parent, Deutsche Telekom, a $4 billion breakup fee. But on Tuesday morning, Deutsche Telekom officials placed the value of the fee at a significantly higher $6 billion.

 

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lynyrd65 Member Level: 4G WiMax

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Upgrades to coaxial or fiber-based connections are generally in progress from the moment a site is identified for upgrade. In the event that neither type is available, T-Mobile will construct a point-to-point microwave link to its closest coaxial/fiber node.

 

That being said, there are circumstances where upgrading the backhaul takes a ridiculously long time. For example, in Dothan, AL, T-Mobile had DC-HSPA+ online with only 3xTDM/T1 for about two years while it waited for CenturyLink (the only fiber provider in the area) to actually pump up fiber capacity and distribution to reach T-Mobile's sites. Of course, it wasn't supposed to take two years, but this is CenturyLink, after all. This was finally resolved last year, and T-Mobile quickly switched on LTE afterward.

Century Link is just universally the worst it seems.

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S4GRU Member Level: LTE Advanced

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Can T-Mobile phones roam to AT&T?

Yes. But the availability of AT&T roaming locations is very limited.

 

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S4GRU Member Level: LTE Advanced

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Jesus Christ people it's 6:3 TDD ratio (101/14.7).

 

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I'm pretty sure Jesus Christ communicates on a 1:1 ratio. ;)

 

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I thought it was a 1:3 (Father, son, holy ghost type of thing) :P

 

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Fantastic! Out played!!!

 

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WiWavelength Member Level: LTE Advanced

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I thought it was a 1:3 (Father, son, holy ghost type of thing)  :P

 

Holy Trinity, tri band, need I say more?  Amen.

 

AJ

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WiWavelength Member Level: LTE Advanced

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Amen. lol 

 

Paraphrasing from Raiders of the lost ark:  "an Army (carrier) that carries the sp ark before them is... invincible"

 

You just blew John Legere's mind...

 

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WiWavelength Member Level: LTE Advanced

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I'm pretty sure Jesus Christ communicates on a 1:1 ratio. ;)

 

 

A 1:1 ratio, eh?  Well, to paraphrase Jack Handey, "If Jesus dwells inside us like some people say, I sure hope He likes enchiladas, because that's what He's getting."

 

AJ

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twospirits Member Level: LTE Advanced

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Attn members:

 

S4GRU is creating a new forum titled "Religious Food Talk" where we discuss religion, food and occasionally fried chicken.

It is the forum that takes you from heaven (Sprint) to hell (T-Mobile) and back with delicious offerings inbetween, served by our very own Chef Alfredo Johannes de la Rue and food critic Robetus de La Borg. 

Sponsored by Devils Ham and Spam.

 

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