HD Voice and NV

[Boosted20V]

Anyone see this....?

 

http://www.lightreading.com/sprint/sprint-delays-hd-voice-launch-to-q2/240153470

[Jswets]

Anyone see this....?

 

http://www.lightreading.com/sprint/sprint-delays-hd-voice-launch-to-q2/240153470

 

Thanks! That is what I wanted to know.

[Fraydog]

From the link:

 

The Sprint spokeswoman says that Sprint's HD voice will be limited at launch. Not only can a Sprint customer with an HD voice handset not call another capable phone on AT&T or Verizon, but he can't even call across Sprint's OEMs, Alcatel-Lucent, Ericsson and Samsung. That means that a customer in California on an Ericsson base station can't call one in NYC on Samsung. She said it may take several months to achieve interoperability.

 

[Paynefanbro]

I got super pissed when I saw that. They better fix it soon!

[WiWavelength]

This is what I have been saying for roughly a year. Implementation of HD Voice (EVRC-NW) is not an airlink issue. It is an MSC and interconnection issue.

 

AJ

[Rawvega]

That it won't work with a AT&T or VZW subscriber, for instance, isn't surprising to me. That it won't (initially) work between Sprint subscribers if they're located in different vendor territories is a bit disappointing to read. That needs to be rectified ASAP.

[Fraydog]

Sprint can fix it's own interconnect issues though within itself. As far as HD Voice interconnectivity, I can see Sprint being on an island where the other US carriers, though their use of AMR-WB, eventually agree on HD Voice interconnectivity while Sprint is SOL because of their use of EVRC-NW.

[supert0nes]

Sprint can fix it's own interconnect issues though within itself. As far as HD Voice interconnectivity' date=' I can see Sprint being on an island where the other US carriers, though their use of AMR-WB, eventually agree on HD Voice interconnectivity while Sprint is SOL because of their use of EVRC-NW.[/quote']

 

Doesn't that depend on if Verizon does hd voice over cdma vs volte?

 

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[WiWavelength]

Sprint can fix it's own interconnect issues though within itself. As far as HD Voice interconnectivity, I can see Sprint being on an island where the other US carriers, though their use of AMR-WB, eventually agree on HD Voice interconnectivity while Sprint is SOL because of their use of EVRC-NW.

 

I could be wrong, but I doubt that we will see carriers interconnecting raw AMR-WB between one another. No, those that want to implement HD Voice interconnection will likely use some form of transcoded, higher sample rate, compressed PCM. And nothing would prevent Sprint from doing likewise.

 

AJ

[Fraydog]

 

Doesn't that depend on if Verizon does hd voice over cdma vs volte?

 

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They are going to use VoLTE. They put all their resources into LTE, and didn't really upgrade any of their 3G network, and it shows. They don't even have a 1X Advanced implementation to my knowledge so they more or less have to go with VoLTE and hope it works well for them.

[jamesinclair]

So the GS4 is or isnt compatible?

[standardmissile]

They are going to use VoLTE. They put all their resources into LTE, and didn't really upgrade any of their 3G network, and it shows. They don't even have a 1X Advanced implementation to my knowledge so they more or less have to go with VoLTE and hope it works well for them.

 

Verizon has 1xRTT and EV-DO rolled out in the SD area. The call quality is pretty dang good, and I heard from a local tower guy whom I used to go drinking with after work, that Verizon is upgrading their CDMA network to try and keep up with Sprint's NV due to their 700 LTE band being overloaded.

 

Also think of it, LTE is designed to operate in an urban developed area based on how the signal was designed to compensate for reflection on the signal path, and other urban specific RF problems. It would behoove them to not neglect their CDMA 850 band when it still carries buttloads of their business customers such as Public Utilities, large coprorations like Qualcomm sales execs, and even some public public/safety cellulars in light of Nextel's iDEN going dark. As well as the roaming agreements from Straight Talk, Net10, regionals, and some of Sprint's CDMA traffic. Those are cash cows! Low negotiated throughput, crappy latency, and roaming costs.

[jamesinclair]

Any update on this? Its now Q2 right?

[Rawvega]

Q3 actually.

 

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[wyatt:-)]

...and no update 

[estarkey7]

I have been a Sprint customer for over 13 years. It is issues like this that really have me on the fence! I really am finding myself at a crossroad here, although my recent trip to Las Vegas did restore some hope in Sprint's network, but I have to tell ya, T-Mobile is Knocking at my door. Currently, almost every phone on T-Mobiles line up does HD Voice!

 

Now I know of the technical hurdles Sprint faces with pulling this off, but when is enough, enough?

[Deval]

 

I have been a Sprint customer for over 13 years. It is issues like this that really have me on the fence! I really am finding myself at a crossroad here, although my recent trip to Las Vegas did restore some hope in Sprint's network, but I have to tell ya, T-Mobile is Knocking at my door. Currently, almost every phone on T-Mobiles line up does HD Voice!

 

Now I know of the technical hurdles Sprint faces with pulling this off, but when is enough, enough?

 

 

 

And HD voice is a requirement for you?

[wyatt:-)]

I have been a Sprint customer for over 13 years. It is issues like this that really have me on the fence! I really am finding myself at a crossroad here, although my recent trip to Las Vegas did restore some hope in Sprint's network, but I have to tell ya, T-Mobile is Knocking at my door. Currently, almost every phone on T-Mobiles line up does HD Voice!

Now I know of the technical hurdles Sprint faces with pulling this off, but when is enough, enough?

Really? When I went to Vegas in Spring I found Sprint to be horrible. I was only on legacy sites and often found myself roaming inside buildings.

 

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[Rawvega]

How odd. I generally haven't found that to be the case in my experiences. However, if you go deep enough into some of the mega resort casinos there is the possibility of switching to roaming. Hopefully, even that issue will disappear when LTE800 is widely deployed.

[estarkey7]

Well, let's put it this way. Sprint makes a big announcement about HD Voice and how it is greater than sliced gluten free bread. They release a litany of videos with people hearing HD voice for the first time with this fantastically wide smile on their face, and then you ask is HD voice a requirement? 

 

Of course it's not a requirement, but Sprint themselves was preaching how great it is and how you must get on Sprint's network in order to enjoy this aural orgasm. Now six months later no HD Voice, because you know, its hard to do and all. So it sure would be nice to enjoy some of the things Sprint says they offer.

 

I got on board from day one on their 4G bandwagon with WiMax and the original Evo. Of course WiMax never made it to Youngstown, but I got fringe reception at work in Cleveland and it was acceptable. So since I am not going to hold my breath on when LTE is coming to Youngstown, I'd at least like to have HD Voice when I talk to my wife with our pair of LG Optimus G's.

 

 

Ok, I have taken a deep breath and oxygen is slowly returning to my brain

 

When you make an investment, based on future capabilities, a prudent person has to go down that list and assess how the reality now stacks up to the promises then. This is where Sprint has 18 months left (remainder of my contract) with me before I will seriously consider alternate options.

[estarkey7]

Really? When I went to Vegas in Spring I found Sprint to be horrible. I was only on legacy sites and often found myself roaming inside buildings.

 

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Oh I totally agree! Inside the casinos was horrible, but I was impressed by the LTE speed outdoors. Even at my hotel, I had to be at my room window to get two bars of 3G and I was on the 25 floor of the Excalibur! 

[utiz4321]

I think sprint is having trouble getting handset manufactures to build phones with this feature supported. When apple supported gsm's version of hd voice and not CDMA I began to have doubts that sprint could make this more than a gimmick. But they could just be waiting for the 800 CDMA footprint to become large enough to make it worth paying a bit more for phones (although the did launch the evo lte over a year ago or so.) . If the former is the case there is still hope with sprint/SoftBank having more clout with handset makers.

[jamesinclair]

And HD voice is a requirement for you?

 

I had a voicecall just yesterday that sounded like we were using two cups and a string. I would have appreciated hd voice.

[mrknowitall526]

I personally think that every call I make to someone on ATT sounds like they're in the backwoods of China.

 

(Does China have a "backwoods"-y part?!)

 

The quality of the phone also makes a huge difference.  I have an EVO LTE, and my mother used to have a Samsung Replenish.  The call quality was so terrible on that.  She upgraded also to an EVO LTE, and instantly I noticed a huge improvement in the call quality.

[Deval]

I had a voicecall just yesterday that sounded like we were using two cups and a string. I would have appreciated hd voice.

 

Really? I wonder if it was a local issue. I've used every phone under the sun, and have yet to come across that issue, unless I was in a low signal area (-110dB 1x)