Sprint and Fixed Wireless Broadband

[linhpham2]

Here's some analysis from Fiercewireless about Sprint's partnership with Dish and options for fixed wireless broadband: http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/analysis-sprint-dish-could-broaden-partnership-it-would-be-complicated/2014-03-25

[xdfgf]

Personally this is the most interesting of the initiatives Sprint has going right now. Really curious to see the specifics of the service in Texas this summer. Interesting times to be a Sprint customer/fan.

[bcltoys]

If this does fly I wonder what kind of distance from tower we are talking and will this fly through trees.

[bandwithhog]

If this does fly I wonder what kind of distance from tower we are talking and will this fly through trees.

 

Look at Towerstream and they already provide fixed wireless service and the best part, still unlimited!

Yes I can hear the haters, but guess what, the carries seem to have no problem with usage if you're willing to pay. Our neighbor just got kicked out by Cox for using more than 300GB per month but hey he could sign up for a business plan, pay more and their network will be A-Okay with it.

[linhpham2]

According to Dslreports.com, Sprint shut down a fixed wireless broadband in 2008.

[linhpham2]

Found it: http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Sprint-Broadband-Direct-Goes-Offline-July-31-94556

[JWMaloney]

Found it: http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Sprint-Broadband-Direct-Goes-Offline-July-31-94556

Article mentioned Sprint losing spectrum. Anyone know what spectrum that was?

[z250kid]

Look at Towerstream and they already provide fixed wireless service and the best part, still unlimited!

Yes I can hear the haters, but guess what, the carries seem to have no problem with usage if you're willing to pay. Our neighbor just got kicked out by Cox for using more than 300GB per month but hey he could sign up for a business plan, pay more and their network will be A-Okay with it.

thats alot of data kinda low limit but still its there for data hoggers. Most business plans have no data limit on them.

[z250kid]

Do they put the antennas on customers roofs?  Like a repeater?  So now dish customers have dishes and antennas and more wires dangling all over the roof.   So it uses satellite for back-haul? Is there enough data speed?   I know there internet is slow.  Id like to see how this turns out its interesting 

[S4GRU]

Article mentioned Sprint losing spectrum. Anyone know what spectrum that was?

I always assumed it was a Motorola Canopy 900MHz system. Those were common back then, and for being 900MHz, they were surprisingly not very good at anything but LOS. Probably because of power limitations.

 

Robert via Samsung Note 8.0 using Tapatalk Pro

 

 

[Geesmill]

Do they put the antennas on customers roofs?  Like a repeater?  So now dish customers have dishes and antennas and more wires dangling all over the roof.   So it uses satellite for back-haul? Is there enough data speed?   I know there internet is slow.  Id like to see how this turns out its interesting 

 

Not exactly sure of the solution Dish is using, but chances are it would be a terrestrial solution to allow for lower latency and lower overall cost.  I believe from the article there were two lines of thought, one was using Dish's AWS spectrum as backhaul and another part of the article referred to using 2.5 Ghz for the backhaul with lots of short hops.  

 

Wireless ISPs are not a new thing, but most times they are the provider of last resort.  People attempt to get service from the phone/cable companies and in many rural settings WISPs are the only high-speed solution available.  

 

Ubiquiti is a gear maker for the WISP industry and late last year started a marketing campaign to get the word out on WISPs.  http://www.goubiquiti.com

 

[bandwithhog]

thats alot of data kinda low limit but still its there for data hoggers. Most business plans have no data limit on them.

 

You don't even know what you use at home. My neighbors are a standard family, five people: Kids run YouTube and music, Parents have their Roku and Netflix/Hulu. They don't use torrent etc. Still they use a lot of capacity every month and it's getting the norm. I wish I had access to Cox but they stopped at my neighbors house.

 

Most home ISP are looking to maximuze their profits and tax usage.

 

I am sure many people hear would be shocked if they could see their usage,

[z250kid]

You don't even know what you use at home. My neighbors are a standard family, five people: Kids run YouTube and music, Parents have their Roku and Netflix/Hulu. They don't use torrent etc. Still they use a lot of capacity every month and it's getting the norm. I wish I had access to Cox but they stopped at my neighbors house.

 

Most home ISP are looking to maximuze their profits and tax usage.

 

I am sure many people hear would be shocked if they could see their usage,

UVURSE is even lower limit.   Streaming hd shows kills data. 

[bandwithhog]

UVURSE is even lower limit.   Streaming hd shows kills data. 

 

Correct, but technology has evolved and usage of the Internet has grown. I can't even do HD streaming but I am fine with SD. What kills me is the amount of data that I need to send due to work. Got a nice offer from Towerstream and when Clear goes into the sunset, I will switch to them.

[Destroyallcubes]

You don't even know what you use at home. My neighbors are a standard family, five people: Kids run YouTube and music, Parents have their Roku and Netflix/Hulu. They don't use torrent etc. Still they use a lot of capacity every month and it's getting the norm. I wish I had access to Cox but they stopped at my neighbors house.

 

Most home ISP are looking to maximuze their profits and tax usage.

 

I am sure many people hear would be shocked if they could see their usage,

Usually you can contact the cable provider and see if the can run lines to your house. You may pay for them to run the cable, but itd be a good service after. Hopefully by neighbor you dont mean one thats like a mile away

[bandwithhog]

Usually you can contact the cable provider and see if the can run lines to your house. You may pay for them to run the cable, but itd be a good service after. Hopefully by neighbor you dont mean one thats like a mile away

 

I called Cox and they have no plans to cover my house because I am just past their territory. I would pay $10k to get my house into their territory just to have the continued pleasure to pay them each month. My neighbor is about 1/2 mile away and that is not too bad

[S4GRU]

Correct, but technology has evolved and usage of the Internet has grown. I can't even do HD streaming but I am fine with SD. What kills me is the amount of data that I need to send due to work. Got a nice offer from Towerstream and when Clear goes into the sunset, I will switch to them.

I have a friend who used Towerstream as a backup for his office in Dallas. He liked it, but said they had a lot of variability in performance. But even their worst was still more than adequate. But the range he experienced was between 3-30Mbps, if memory serves. So highly variable.

 

Robert via Samsung Note 8.0 using Tapatalk Pro

 

 

[bandwithhog]

I have a friend who used Towerstream as a backup for his office in Dallas. He liked it, but said they had a lot of variability in performance. But even their worst was still more than adequate. But the range he experienced was between 3-30Mbps, if memory serves. So highly variable.

 

Robert via Samsung Note 8.0 using Tapatalk Pro

 

Still better as local dial-up

[S4GRU]

Still better as local dial-up

 

Sure.  It will better than WiMax in many instances too.  Just wanted to give you an idea what you may experience.

 

Robert

[Destroyallcubes]

I called Cox and they have no plans to cover my house because I am just past their territory. I would pay $10k to get my house into their territory just to have the continued pleasure to pay them each month. My neighbor is about 1/2 mile away and that is not too bad

Holy cow! 10k? Sheesh Iwould get Towerstream over that any day ! I didnt realize it cost 10k for a half mile of Cable and such. Gues theyd have to get permits, and such too

[WiWavelength]

I called Cox and they have no plans to cover my house because I am just past their territory. I would pay $10k to get my house into their territory just to have the continued pleasure to pay them each month. My neighbor is about 1/2 mile away and that is not too bad

 

Since you are in rural Nevada, do you have line of sight to your neighbor's house?  If so, you should be able to cobble together a solution.  We could even help you.

 

AJ

[4ginnc]

The problem with Towerstream, as with most internet solutions, is that they don't serve more rural areas and the areas that they do server would already have many other internet options available:

 

New York, Boston, Seattle, Dallas, Las Vegas, Chicago, Miami, Reno, Fort Worth, Houston, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Providence, Philadelphia.

 

And with a promotion of 8Mbps service for "only" $799/mo, that doesn't seem like an option for anything other than businesses that can afford it.  Unless I'm looking at the wrong Towerstream?

http://www.towerstream.com/ServiceAreas.aspx

[bandwithhog]

Since you are in rural Nevada, do you have line of sight to your neighbor's house?  If so, you should be able to cobble together a solution.  We could even help you.

 

AJ

 

They no longer have Internet because Cox disconnected their service for high use.

 

 

The problem with Towerstream, as with most internet solutions, is that they don't serve more rural areas and the areas that they do server would already have many other internet options available:

 

New York, Boston, Seattle, Dallas, Las Vegas, Chicago, Miami, Reno, Fort Worth, Houston, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Providence, Philadelphia.

 

And with a promotion of 8Mbps service for "only" $799/mo, that doesn't seem like an option for anything other than businesses that can afford it.  Unless I'm looking at the wrong Towerstream?

 

http://www.towerstream.com/ServiceAreas.aspx

 

They have different pricing but yes the service is not cheap. Given the amounts of data, it is just a price of doing business and yes it's about 10 times the amount Clearwire gets from me each month

 

Sure.  It will better than WiMax in many instances too.  Just wanted to give you an idea what you may experience.

 

Robert

 

I never had a speed issue with Clear and I am blessed with good enough speeds. Still hoping on a fixed solution from Sprint.

 

Holy cow! 10k? Sheesh Iwould get Towerstream over that any day ! I didnt realize it cost 10k for a half mile of Cable and such. Gues theyd have to get permits, and such too

 

They don't want to cover just one. If I had an appartment complex on my land, the connection would be free

[WiWavelength]

They no longer have Internet because Cox disconnected their service for high use.

 

If I were you, I would not offer that $10,000 to Cox.  Something makes me think that you would eventually get disconnected, too.

 

 

AJ

[dedub]

you should be able to get a T1 (or 3) for less than 800/month.