UndeadNexus Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Not sure if this has been posted already. "The Wall Street Journal on Thursday reported that Google has held talks with satellite television provider Dish Network (DISH) regarding the possibility of a venture that would see Google launch its own cellular network and compete directly with the likes of Verizon (VZ) and AT&T (T)" http://bgr.com/2012/...reless-carrier/ However, this is just a possibility and could lead to nowhere. In the event that it actually happens, would any of you guys make the switch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacinJosh Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Only if I can have totally unlimited, with no hidden clause on data, for less than $45/mo, otherwise, I'm sticking with Sprint. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UndeadNexus Posted November 16, 2012 Author Share Posted November 16, 2012 Only if I can have totally unlimited, with no hidden clause on data, for less than $45/mo, otherwise, I'm sticking with Sprint. I have my doubts about that. Google will probably go with tiered plans but offering more data than Verizon or AT&T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 If I could get the same deal I have on my old grandfathered SERO plan, maybe. On the other hand, Sprint has been good to me - it would actually take a lot to make me switch... Sent from Photon Q LTE - Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtualbot Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Only if I can have totally unlimited, with no hidden clause on data, for less than $45/mo, otherwise, I'm sticking with Sprint. ...and expect to have your data stored and sold for that low price. Seriously though, would be nice for there to be more competition. Wireless plan prices are crazy expensive! Sent from my SPH-L900 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChadBroChillz Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 If they want to rival ATT/Verizon, then relying on Dish is not the way to go. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centermedic Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Personaly I think if they wanted to go that route it would have been with Sprint. More likely than not they will sign a deal for somebody to provide wireless for them to bundle with their home internet service. Running their own cellular system would create two issues for them. The first would be disgruntled customers trolling the internets and smearing Googles name. The second would be creating animosity with the cellular providors. Would they be willing to sell a product from a competitor? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feech Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 In my dream scenario Google would come to Sprint with buckets of cash and say only sell Android phones and Tablets, give customers 10G of data a month and price it at 60 per month out the door and we will infuse you with more money than you can imagine. Build the biggest baddest LTE network in under 2 years. I know I'm ridiculous but still. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsnake49 Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I can see both Google and Apple eventually becoming wireless MVNO's. At some point, the traditional carriers will not be able to subsidize handsets to the degree that they are now and the handset manufacturers will have to earn their money some other way. While Google has ads/search, Apple does not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsnake49 Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 For a very interesting perspective on Dish's machinations re Clearwire and Sprint read Tim Farrar's blog: http://blog.tmfassociates.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsnake49 Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Also, T-Mobile's CEO Alling, thinks that eventually there will be only 3 US carriers: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-16/t-mobile-usa-sees-three-national-networks-over-long-term.html Does the entry of Dish in the cellular service arena allow the FCC and DOJ to approve a Sprint/T-Mobile merger without loss of competition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmchssc Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Dish doesn't have enough spectrum to be able to compete effectively on its own. A merger between either Sprint or T-Mobile with Dish would probably be approved, but not one between Sprint and T-Mobile themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supert0nes Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I can see both Google and Apple eventually becoming wireless MVNO's. At some point, the traditional carriers will not be able to subsidize handsets to the degree that they are now and the handset manufacturers will have to earn their money some other way. While Google has ads/search, Apple does not. Phones get cheaper all the time. Soon we won't need to subsidize any smartphone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsnake49 Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 That's why they are rumored to have bought $900M of Clearwire's debt. Exchange it for some of Clearwire's spectrum. Couple the 20+20 of spectrum they have with some 10+10 from the upcoming TV spectrum auction and all of a sudden they're pretty credible as far as handset oriented cellular is concerned. Ultimately, if they want to implement VOD they will need Clearwire's spectrum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsnake49 Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Phones get cheaper all the time. Soon we won't need to subsidize any smartphone. Yeah, but Apple will need to do something to maintain their high margins. The reason phones are getting cheaper is because Google is not making any money on their Nexus phones and is hoping to make it up by search/ads income. The same way that Amazon is making it up by forcing you to use their "content". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supert0nes Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Phones are getting cheaper because technology advances and competition. While our phones are impressive, they aren't that expensive to manufacture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boosted20V Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I honestly don't see any other provider coming and and putting together the money and wherwithal to build any true infrastructure, especially nationwide. If anything, they would have to set up a hosting agreement with a current provider and realistically that only leaves Sprint/T-Mobile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsnake49 Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Phones are getting cheaper because technology advances and competition. While our phones are impressive, they aren't that expensive to manufacture. I don't see the current top of the line handsets as cheap. Even at somebody like Voyager Mobile, the GS III costs $549, which is not exactly cheap. Unlocked iPhone is $649. So, I don't know where you're drawing the line between cheap and expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david279 Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 It's official now. Data only network... Using VoIP for calls. http://bgr.com/2012/11/16/google-wireless-carrier-launch-2013/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheBoyGeniusReport+%28BGR+%7C+Boy+Genius+Report%29 Sent from my Evo 4G LTE 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChadBroChillz Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 How are they going to get it rolling out by 2013, when Dish is not planning on starting their buildout until 2016? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascertion Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 It's official now. Data only network... Using VoIP for calls. http://bgr.com/2012/11/16/google-wireless-carrier-launch-2013/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheBoyGeniusReport+%28BGR+%7C+Boy+Genius+Report%29 Sent from my Evo 4G LTE I bet it'll be a gsm based carrier. Anyone know what spectrum dish owns? Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrome.brooks Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Well that's not going to work Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david279 Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Would gsm have enough bandwidth to support VoIP? HSDPA+ and HSUPA? Sent from my Evo 4G LTE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChadBroChillz Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I bet it'll be a gsm based carrier. Anyone know what spectrum dish owns? Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2 I believe 6ish mhz of unpaired 700mhz. I do not believe it is nationwide either. They also own 40mhz of S-band/AWS-4, which I believe is currently 2000-2020 to 2200-2220. However, that could be moved to 2005-2025 if sprint is able to convince the FCC to use the 2000-2005 as a buffer and sell off the PCS H block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascertion Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Would gsm have enough bandwidth to support VoIP? HSDPA+ and HSUPA? Sent from my Evo 4G LTE If 2g networks only use 10kbps for voice, wouldn't HSPA+ be fine? Not sure how gsm works though. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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