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With 20mhz of bandwidth, that's 4x higher than Sprints B25 in your area. If T-Mobile site density is good in El Paso, then they should be a good choice. And according to Spectrum gateway, it looks like T-Mobile may have B12 active there once channels vacate the spectrum. I wonder what the progress is on the B26 vacancy for Sprint.

 

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With 20mhz of bandwidth, that's 4x higher than Sprints B25 in your area. If T-Mobile site density is good in El Paso, then they should be a good choice. And according to Spectrum gateway, it looks like T-Mobile may have B12 active there once channels vacate the spectrum. I wonder what the progress is on the B26 vacancy for Sprint.

 

http://ae2.spectrumgateway.com/t-mobile-700-mhz-spectrum.html

So, this is my experience so far! Im not bashing sprint or t- mobile.... t- mobile site density much better then sprint by a long shot. Band 4 20×20 is lit up just about everywhere that i have traveled so far. So, that should mean im getting much faster speeds then i am on sprint? Ether T-mobile has such a huge makets share here or there backhaul is not upscaled to support 20×20 mhz yet... tower at my home area i can only use 4G LTE between the hours of 5am and 7am. Everywhere else im getting between 1 and 4mbps...but desnity is great i never drop below 5 bars

 

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So, this is my experience so far! Im not bashing sprint or t- mobile.... t- mobile site density much better then sprint by a long shot. Band 4 20×20 is lit up just about everywhere that i have traveled so far. So, that should mean im getting much faster speeds then i am on sprint? Ether T-mobile has such a huge makets share here or there backhaul is not upscaled to support 20×20 mhz yet... tower at my home area i can only use 4G LTE between the hours of 5am and 7am. Everywhere else im getting between 1 and 4mbps...but desnity is great i never drop below 5 bars

 

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Shows that density doesn't help. Makes me wonder if people are abusing the network there.
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Shows that density doesn't help. Makes me wonder if people are abusing the network there.

Just a quick question. Since Sprint swap PCS spectrum with T Mobile (20×20mhz) in el paso... could Sprint have bumped us up to 10 by 10mhz on band 25?

 

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So, this is my experience so far! Im not bashing sprint or t- mobile.... t- mobile site density much better then sprint by a long shot. Band 4 20×20 is lit up just about everywhere that i have traveled so far. So, that should mean im getting much faster speeds then i am on sprint? Ether T-mobile has such a huge makets share here or there backhaul is not upscaled to support 20×20 mhz yet... tower at my home area i can only use 4G LTE between the hours of 5am and 7am. Everywhere else im getting between 1 and 4mbps...but desnity is great i never drop below 5 bars

 

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I would look more at the SNR values more than the service bars. That will give you a clearer picture of what is happening with your service. Also if the 20 Mhz FDD carrier is a new deployment you might be right about the backhaul.

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Just a quick question. Since Sprint swap PCS spectrum with T Mobile (20×20mhz) in el paso... could Sprint have bumped us up to 10 by 10mhz on band 25?

 

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Depends. I haven't looked into the swap yet for Abq/el paso
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I would look more at the SNR values more than the service bars. That will give you a clearer picture of what is happening with your service. Also if the 20 Mhz FDD carrier is a new deployment you might be right about the backhaul.

It seems to be widespread.. I traveled to east side of town and had band 4 20×20 the whole way..80ccf574a01c860b71d3c7de67dbf49b.jpg my buddy said..since the upload is so high it seems like backhaul is on full blast

 

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It seems to be widespread.. I traveled to east side of town and had band 4 20×20 the whole way..80ccf574a01c860b71d3c7de67dbf49b.jpg my buddy said..since the upload is so high it seems like backhaul is on full blast

 

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Pure overloaded network.
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Care to explain??

 

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Congestion. Tons of people using T-Mobile in your area. It's a dead giveaway when upload is dramatically higher than download. Since most people use download a lot more often than upload.
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Congestion. Tons of people using T-Mobile in your area. It's a dead giveaway when upload is dramatically higher than download. Since most people use download a lot more often than upload.

Yes, wish they would dedicate more to download...any fix in the near future....or would i have to wait for them to aggregate.. the new pcs spectrum acquired by the swap from sprint

 

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Yes, wish they would dedicate more to download...any fix in the near future....or would i have to wait for them to aggregate.. the new pcs spectrum acquired by the swap from sprint

 

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They have 20Mhz for download, 20Mhz for upload.  It's because people mainly use download that it is drastically lower (congestion).  The only fix is for T-Mobile to add more capacity whether it be PCS (Band 2) or add more towers in the area.

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They have 20Mhz for download, 20Mhz for upload. It's because people mainly use download that it is drastically lower (congestion). The only fix is for T-Mobile to add more capacity whether it be PCS (Band 2) or add more towers in the area.

So, im assuming band 12 when rolled out wont perform well..until they ether aggregate or add more towers

 

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So, im assuming band 12 when rolled out wont perform well..until they ether aggregate or add more towers

 

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Band 12 is not very fast and it's not meant to be. It's just a coverage band so even when aggregated with band 4 it will only add a little capacity. Band 4/12 CA gives band 4 a little more speed. Band 12/4 CA gives band 12 the capacity of band 4 while maintaining band 12 like penetration so at the moment band 12 benefits more from CA than band 4 does. When band 2 is around and 3xCA is a go then there will be major speed benefits. The problem with T-Mobile is once this is in place they will be all out of spectrum and only 4x4 MIMO will increase the speed. Sprint on the other hand in some markets will have as high as 5x5 800, 20x20 1900 and 120 mhz of band 41 while eventually also having 4x4 MIMO. That's way more spectrum.
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Band 12 is not very fast and it's not meant to be. It's just a coverage band so even when aggregated with band 4 it will only add a little capacity. Band 4/12 CA gives band 4 a little more speed. Band 12/4 CA gives band 12 the capacity of band 4 while maintaining band 12 like penetration so at the moment band 12 benefits more from CA than band 4 does. When band 2 is around and 3xCA is a go then there will be major speed benefits. The problem with T-Mobile is once this is in place they will be all out of spectrum and only 4x4 MIMO will increase the speed. Sprint on the other hand in some markets will have as high as 5x5 800, 20x20 1900 and 120 mhz of band 41 while eventually also having 4x4 MIMO. That's way more spectrum.

At that point what are T Mobile chances of running into congestion

 

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At that point what are T Mobile chances of running into congestion

 

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Thats hard to say. There are many variables such as customer base, abusers, site density, spectrum. I will say that if tmobile is that slow already with out density and more spectrum it wont be that long.

 

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Thats hard to say. There are many variables such as customer base, abusers, site density, spectrum. I will say that if tmobile is that slow already with out density and more spectrum it wont be that long.

 

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So, sprint will be a better option in the near future

 

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Thats hard to say. There are many variables such as customer base, abusers, site density, spectrum. I will say that if tmobile is that slow already with out density and more spectrum it wont be that long.

 

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So, sprint will be a better option in the near future

 

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Again I can't guarantee that but if El Paso gets this 20x20 PCS which the FCC will likely approve then Sprint is going to be a good option within the next 2 years. I wouldn't recommend Sprint at the moment in El Paso since most of the market looks to be 5x5 PCS and that's it. Obviously that doesn't cut it in 2016.

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Thats hard to say. There are many variables such as customer base, abusers, site density, spectrum. I will say that if tmobile is that slow already with out density and more spectrum it wont be that long.

 

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