S4GRU

Next you can expect them to get a little nutty with the Kyocera Sausalito. Emmmm... Can't wait to take a byte out of that! Robert

sober tank

I had never seen that map before. How cool is that? :jester: Robert

by Robert Herron Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Tuesday, July 10, 2012 - 11:56 AM MDT The next market in our Network Vision/LTE deployment schedule update series is...Riverside/San Bernardino, otherwise known as the Inland Empire. The Riverside/San Bernardino market has yet to be announced by Sprint, and may not be announced until as late as this Fall. The Sprint Riverside/San Bernardino market includes Riverside, San Bernardino, Ontario, Fontana, Moreno Valley, Rancho Cucamonga, Victorville/Hesperia, Murrieta, Temecula, Rialto, Big Bear, Lake Arrowhead, Barstow, Twentynine Palms, Palm Springs and Indio. Sprint's Network Vision OEM Alcatel/Lucent is scheduled to begin mobilizing their subcontractors around the market in November. The first completed Network Vision sites are scheduled to start coming online in December. Anticipated Sites Complete at Market Launch. According to the Network Vision schedules that S4GRU has reviewed, if Sprint launched the market in April, these are the anticipated sites that would likely have LTE complete at that time. This would provide fairly good LTE coverage over many parts of the market. Schedule details and the bottom line Sprint has not yet selected a date to formally "launch" LTE service in the Inland Empire. It is difficult to try to pick a date now this far out, but we will try. In looking at the schedule as of today, it would indicate a April - May market launch (going on a 40% - 50% completion for launch). But there is no way to know if AlcaLu and their subcontractors will actually hit their schedule dates this early in the deployment for this market. We will be able to gauge better after a few months of production. Alcatel/Lucent needs to hit a production rate of only 45 sites per month to stay on schedule. This is about average and the should be able to complete this market on time. S4GRU has examined the schedule in great detail in this market and sees that most of the sites will be complete by October 2013. However, there may be a few sporadic sites that will linger past the completion. Photo of Riverside Skyline provided courtesy of Wikimedia Commons. NOTE: S4GRU Sponsor Members can track regular updates of Network Vision sites completed nationwide. Completed sites are shown in an interactive Google Maps interface. Information about sponsorship can be found here: S4GRU Sponsorship

rock monster

That explains why some of the cores have PoP written next to them. Robert

That's a pretty comprehensive list. I'm impressed, and slightly scared. Robert

I just got the update pushed to me. Just installed and rebooted. I also notice my PRL changed from 25004 to 25005. Robert Looks smaller too. Robert

The exact method of eHRPD deployment is still a mystery. At least, to me it is. We know it appears. We know it does not appear consistently when it appears. We know sometimes it appears in markets that have not even started Network Vision yet. I would love to know more. Robert

rogue wave

ROFLMAO!!!! Although, now I'm going to have to get fried chicken for lunch. Man, I'm hungry... Robert

CDMA 800 is already live in approximately a dozen sites in the Chicago area. They are shown in our NV Sites Complete map in the Sponsor section. Sprint will bring up CDMA 800 slowly over some Network Vision markets in areas that do not have conflicting iDEN service on Channel 476. It's my understanding that iDEN is being cleared in the nationwide thinning, enough to deploy the one 1xA carrier now, and that Sprint will add them over the next year or so. However, this information came from one source verbally. I have never seen anything to ever confirm that. However, it seems to be confirmed by the fact that 800 1x carriers are going live in the Chicago area. We have also have had S4GRU members connect to 800 1x carriers temporarily in the LA, Baltimore and DC markets. As for devices that support CDMA 800 on SMR, one of our Moderators is working on a list to post on the site. It currently does not list the Nexus S 4G. I believe it does not support 800 SMR. Robert

The Minnesota market map was updated yesterday. No longer preliminary. Robert

I have only seen one update on the docs that were shown in the TechnoBuffalo article. It looks like there was some slippage in the last update. But that update was in Mid May. Robert

Yeah, it's a large market. It start the week before Labor Day, and it will take a year to complete it all. Robert

Victoria Station

I think it will go live early, by a day or two. I say, some time on Friday. Robert

That's correct. That's the MSC, which handles voice and 1x/EVDO data. Because of dynamic loading, there is really no specific 4G core for a site, only a preferred list. There is, of course, a Number 1 on the list. I guess you could refer to that one being the primary 4G core for the site. But I do not have info on the cores that specific sites would connect to. Theoretically, it could be any 4G core. What I don't know is if they can cross OEM lines. Can an Ericsson site get routed through a Samsung 4G core? I don't know the answer to that question. Robert

Did you confirm you were actually connected to that site? If you weren't even getting EVDO, it makes me wonder if the site was down. Were there any trucks? Robert via CM9 Kindle Fire using Forum Runner

Its because you are using the signal strength indicator to determine good sites from bad sites. Your device is using EcIo ratio. The closer site was likely quite overloaded and the device had to switch to the other farther site. If the other site did not offer a good connection, but the closer site had an even worse EcIo ratio, then you were doomed either way. Sprint most likely needs to increase capacity in your area. Robert via CM9 Kindle Fire using Forum Runner

Its too bad LTE Band 25 didn't include H Block. It would require yet another LTE Band to cover all of PCS. On another note, I'm not a big believer in 10MHz LTE carriers. One 10MHz carrier has roughly the same capacity as two 5MHz carriers. The only advantage is speed and bragging rights. 5MHz carriers offer more than sufficient speed for 99% of mobile broadband uses. Especially when the wireless carrier has more opportunities to deploy additional carriers as needed. If Sprint sticks with 5MHz channels, it becomes much easier to dig up more PCS spectrum for another carrier. If you are always looking for a 10MHz swath, your options for additional capacity are much fewer. Since Sprint will have the densest LTE network of all, the capacity from a single 5MHz carrier is pretty good. And since they will have lots more flexibility for additional 5MHz carriers, it gives them more capacity expansion options. I think consumers are looking for an inexpensive, consistently performing LTE network without data limits. I think that consumers will not want speeds greater than 10 - 15 Mbps, especially if they have to pay for it. Also, if H Block has stringent build out requirements, expect Sprint not to go after nationwide licensing. They are not going to deploy in places like Montana, Wyoming and the Dakotas so soon. They may allow someone else to pick up those License areas. Robert via CM9 Kindle Fire using Forum Runner

Not beyond there was a date it was supposed to be live in May. I'm guessing it is live now that LTE sites are coming online in the market. Robert via CM9 Kindle Fire using Forum Runner